maxi Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) check this out folks. a real transformer!!!!! this japanese guys are so advanced. wouldn´t be great that this could be modified to use in real vf´s??? check out this videos GREATINGS FROM ARGENTINA http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=26...p;q=transformer Edited December 18, 2006 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007-vf1 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 check this out folks. a real transformer!!!!! this japanese guys are so advanced. would´t be great that this could be modified to use in real vf´s??? check out this videos GREATINGS FROM ARGENTINA http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=26...p;q=transformer sure; let's put some wings on the sucker and let's make it fly...it should be easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macross73 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 You had my hopes raised. thats been floating around for quite awhile nothing new. I'd have been more impressed if you'd show a vid of that Citroen commercial or Battle Bots or Asimo or a a actual fighter plane with some transforming capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechamaniac Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Really belongs in Anime & Sci-Fi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 I am about to start the first prototype of the yf-19. I´m a pilot and an aeronautical technician also. I have been studing with engeneers, and the idea is posible. I will post some pictures of the project as soon as I can(specialy for macross73). greetings, see ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I am about to start the first prototype of the yf-19. I´m a pilot and an aeronautical technician also. I have been studing with engeneers, and the idea is posible. I will post some pictures of the project as soon as I can(specialy for macross73). greetings, see ya. I would have thought pilots and aeronautical techs would know how to spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I would have thought pilots and aeronautical techs would know how to spell. why? he's not a secretary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijin Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 why? he's not a secretary. Okaay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 I would have thought pilots and aeronautical techs would know how to spell. Fool! We're the least capable of such a thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamen0083 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Some engineers actually have the worst grammar and spelling skills. I've been working with classmates, and the project reports they turn out are nothing short of appalling. Years of college education taught them to write like second graders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 thanks for the support guys jajaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizman Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 (edited) Thats actually pretty neat, wonder how much it's worth? I like the part at the end when its about to go off the table and the video stops ! Edited December 10, 2006 by dizman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 Hi guys. at the time I´m starting also a paper model of this beautifull plane. I´ll post the finished model for download. greattings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 I folks. me again, jaja. I´ve already designed the leg mechanism and the engine controls. this will be so great!!! see ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikuro Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Well that was actually very cute, do a lil pose then transform back into vehicle mode....cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 So, you're designing an articulated YF-19 model, if understand you correctly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) It´s a fully transformable flying RC yf-19. It´s a very ambicious proyect. Any help will be apreciated. Edited December 20, 2006 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_e Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 It�s a fully transformable flying RC yf-19. It�s a very ambicious proyect. Any help will be apreciated. http://literacy.kent.edu/Midwest/Materials...elling/toc.html Sorry, just messin' with ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) No problem, I´ll check that out. Edited December 20, 2006 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 you're building a scratch built, flying yf-19 and in seven days you've designed the "leg mechanism" and "engine controls" what uh.. do you mean exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Eh, I guess I'll believe it when I see it, and not until. My sister is in aerospace, and I trust her when she says that there's no chance something like the YF-19 could actually fly. Something about parasitic drag. Furthermore, on an RC scale, there's literally no way you could give it enough power to get in the air if you had it loaded down with transformation mechanincs. So, my BS alarm is going off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) I have studied aerodinamics and I`m aware of all those things. I saw a RC SV-51 that can fly and I realy think that my proyect can be made to. If you would show the blue prints of any modern aircraft to Bristol or any of those designers, they would think the same as you. In other hand, there are in the market a lot of turbine engines for model airplanes that can give 15 kg of thrust, and I`m planning to use two of these. Besides, with all the robotics and material tecnology that we have now a days I think I`s very posible. dreams cost nothing, Edited December 21, 2006 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 CHECK THIS OUT GUYS http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.ph...mp;postcount=14 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKeats Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Awesome, I love error pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_e Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Awesome, I love error pages. Really? You too? 404's are my favorite, but 403's are pretty nice too. And let's not forget good ol' 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) SORRY GUYS, HERE IS THE PAGE http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.ph...mp;postcount=14 Edited December 22, 2006 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 hello again. this time I´ll show you the building process of a rc yf-19. this is a very simple model made of foam. It has no wingfoil and it can fly. well, here is the thread. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread....highlight=yf+19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hi guys. At the moment the project is in stand-by because personal issues. I hope I can return to it as soon as possible. Sorry, see ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 That was a wild ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsu legato Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 That was a wild ride. No kidding. I really had my hopes up there, for a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAD Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Well, I guess this is where I chime in: Couple things: First, the YF-19 is DEFINTELY flightworthy. Parasitic drag, yes, but the great thing on a model is you can often get absurd thrust/weight ratios. Granted, it won't be an efficient model, but it will fly. Second: However, the first comment only applies to the aircraft in fighter mode! While never one to wantonly discourage crazy plans, a flying, transforming YF-19 is pretty close to cold fusion, on a scale of impossibility. Aside from any consideration of how to automate the transformation process, there is no practical control system on the -19, which would be effective in any sort of hover mode. (GERWALK, or otherwise.) Furthermore, as has been pointed out, the weight of the actuators required to transform such an aircraft would be quite high, especially since the geometries of many of the joints give little in the way of mechanical advantage. The stresses an aircraft (model or otherwise) experiences in flight can be fairly extreme, and even things as [seemingly] simple as variable-geometry wings (F-14/VF-0/VF-1) can be extremely difficult to get to function on a flying model. I don't mean to sound like a spoilsport here, but when it comes down to it, the realities of physics pretty much dictate that transforming aircraft have to remain in the realms of animation, at least for the (extremely long) foreseeable future. ~Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myk Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Where's that damned Over-technology when we need it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNor Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Well, I guess this is where I chime in: Couple things: First, the YF-19 is DEFINTELY flightworthy. Parasitic drag, yes, but the great thing on a model is you can often get absurd thrust/weight ratios. Granted, it won't be an efficient model, but it will fly. Second: However, the first comment only applies to the aircraft in fighter mode! While never one to wantonly discourage crazy plans, a flying, transforming YF-19 is pretty close to cold fusion, on a scale of impossibility. Aside from any consideration of how to automate the transformation process, there is no practical control system on the -19, which would be effective in any sort of hover mode. (GERWALK, or otherwise.) Furthermore, as has been pointed out, the weight of the actuators required to transform such an aircraft would be quite high, especially since the geometries of many of the joints give little in the way of mechanical advantage. The stresses an aircraft (model or otherwise) experiences in flight can be fairly extreme, and even things as [seemingly] simple as variable-geometry wings (F-14/VF-0/VF-1) can be extremely difficult to get to function on a flying model. I don't mean to sound like a spoilsport here, but when it comes down to it, the realities of physics pretty much dictate that transforming aircraft have to remain in the realms of animation, at least for the (extremely long) foreseeable future. ~Luke Well, yes, that and the fact that he stated he had the entire leg mechanism working after only a week, and offered zero proof, neither photos or even a rough description of how he'd accomplished this. Extarodinary claims requuire extraordinary evidence. IMHO this thread stinks of "little kid looking for attention" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) Well, yes, that and the fact that he stated he had the entire leg mechanism working after only a week, and offered zero proof, neither photos or even a rough description of how he'd accomplished this. Extarodinary claims requuire extraordinary evidence. IMHO this thread stinks of "little kid looking for attention" Look KingNor, I am not a "little kid" that just look for attention. The reason because I haven´t post any picture is simple, I don´t have digital camera or scanner either. I just want to try if it is possible to do. And I guess that the only way to prove it is doing it. If it has to fail, will fail, if it doesn´t better. I don´t want to be rude, but I´ll do it even if you say that it can´t be done. We´ll see. Edited February 19, 2007 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 Well, I guess this is where I chime in: Couple things: First, the YF-19 is DEFINTELY flightworthy. Parasitic drag, yes, but the great thing on a model is you can often get absurd thrust/weight ratios. Granted, it won't be an efficient model, but it will fly. Second: However, the first comment only applies to the aircraft in fighter mode! While never one to wantonly discourage crazy plans, a flying, transforming YF-19 is pretty close to cold fusion, on a scale of impossibility. Aside from any consideration of how to automate the transformation process, there is no practical control system on the -19, which would be effective in any sort of hover mode. (GERWALK, or otherwise.) Furthermore, as has been pointed out, the weight of the actuators required to transform such an aircraft would be quite high, especially since the geometries of many of the joints give little in the way of mechanical advantage. The stresses an aircraft (model or otherwise) experiences in flight can be fairly extreme, and even things as [seemingly] simple as variable-geometry wings (F-14/VF-0/VF-1) can be extremely difficult to get to function on a flying model. I don't mean to sound like a spoilsport here, but when it comes down to it, the realities of physics pretty much dictate that transforming aircraft have to remain in the realms of animation, at least for the (extremely long) foreseeable future. ~Luke Thanks for the comment IAD. Obiously because you have done your sv-51, your oppinion wheigts more than other member´s. I´ll keep you informed of the proyect progress. thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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