maxi Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 (edited) check this out folks. a real transformer!!!!! this japanese guys are so advanced. wouldn´t be great that this could be modified to use in real vf´s??? check out this videos GREATINGS FROM ARGENTINA http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=26...p;q=transformer Edited December 18, 2006 by maxi Quote
007-vf1 Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 check this out folks. a real transformer!!!!! this japanese guys are so advanced. would´t be great that this could be modified to use in real vf´s??? check out this videos GREATINGS FROM ARGENTINA http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=26...p;q=transformer sure; let's put some wings on the sucker and let's make it fly...it should be easy Quote
Macross73 Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 You had my hopes raised. thats been floating around for quite awhile nothing new. I'd have been more impressed if you'd show a vid of that Citroen commercial or Battle Bots or Asimo or a a actual fighter plane with some transforming capability. Quote
maxi Posted December 6, 2006 Author Posted December 6, 2006 I am about to start the first prototype of the yf-19. I´m a pilot and an aeronautical technician also. I have been studing with engeneers, and the idea is posible. I will post some pictures of the project as soon as I can(specialy for macross73). greetings, see ya. Quote
Gaijin Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 I am about to start the first prototype of the yf-19. I´m a pilot and an aeronautical technician also. I have been studing with engeneers, and the idea is posible. I will post some pictures of the project as soon as I can(specialy for macross73). greetings, see ya. I would have thought pilots and aeronautical techs would know how to spell. Quote
eugimon Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 I would have thought pilots and aeronautical techs would know how to spell. why? he's not a secretary. Quote
Wes Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 I would have thought pilots and aeronautical techs would know how to spell. Fool! We're the least capable of such a thing! Quote
Stamen0083 Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Some engineers actually have the worst grammar and spelling skills. I've been working with classmates, and the project reports they turn out are nothing short of appalling. Years of college education taught them to write like second graders. Quote
maxi Posted December 10, 2006 Author Posted December 10, 2006 thanks for the support guys jajaj Quote
dizman Posted December 10, 2006 Posted December 10, 2006 (edited) Thats actually pretty neat, wonder how much it's worth? I like the part at the end when its about to go off the table and the video stops ! Edited December 10, 2006 by dizman Quote
maxi Posted December 11, 2006 Author Posted December 11, 2006 Hi guys. at the time I´m starting also a paper model of this beautifull plane. I´ll post the finished model for download. greattings Quote
maxi Posted December 18, 2006 Author Posted December 18, 2006 I folks. me again, jaja. I´ve already designed the leg mechanism and the engine controls. this will be so great!!! see ya. Quote
Hikuro Posted December 18, 2006 Posted December 18, 2006 Well that was actually very cute, do a lil pose then transform back into vehicle mode....cute. Quote
Knight26 Posted December 18, 2006 Posted December 18, 2006 So, you're designing an articulated YF-19 model, if understand you correctly? Quote
maxi Posted December 20, 2006 Author Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) It´s a fully transformable flying RC yf-19. It´s a very ambicious proyect. Any help will be apreciated. Edited December 20, 2006 by maxi Quote
mister_e Posted December 20, 2006 Posted December 20, 2006 It�s a fully transformable flying RC yf-19. It�s a very ambicious proyect. Any help will be apreciated. http://literacy.kent.edu/Midwest/Materials...elling/toc.html Sorry, just messin' with ya Quote
maxi Posted December 20, 2006 Author Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) No problem, I´ll check that out. Edited December 20, 2006 by maxi Quote
KingNor Posted December 20, 2006 Posted December 20, 2006 you're building a scratch built, flying yf-19 and in seven days you've designed the "leg mechanism" and "engine controls" what uh.. do you mean exactly. Quote
Chaos Posted December 20, 2006 Posted December 20, 2006 Eh, I guess I'll believe it when I see it, and not until. My sister is in aerospace, and I trust her when she says that there's no chance something like the YF-19 could actually fly. Something about parasitic drag. Furthermore, on an RC scale, there's literally no way you could give it enough power to get in the air if you had it loaded down with transformation mechanincs. So, my BS alarm is going off. Quote
maxi Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) I have studied aerodinamics and I`m aware of all those things. I saw a RC SV-51 that can fly and I realy think that my proyect can be made to. If you would show the blue prints of any modern aircraft to Bristol or any of those designers, they would think the same as you. In other hand, there are in the market a lot of turbine engines for model airplanes that can give 15 kg of thrust, and I`m planning to use two of these. Besides, with all the robotics and material tecnology that we have now a days I think I`s very posible. dreams cost nothing, Edited December 21, 2006 by maxi Quote
maxi Posted December 21, 2006 Author Posted December 21, 2006 CHECK THIS OUT GUYS http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.ph...mp;postcount=14 ) Quote
mister_e Posted December 21, 2006 Posted December 21, 2006 Awesome, I love error pages. Really? You too? 404's are my favorite, but 403's are pretty nice too. And let's not forget good ol' 500 Quote
maxi Posted December 22, 2006 Author Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) SORRY GUYS, HERE IS THE PAGE http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.ph...mp;postcount=14 Edited December 22, 2006 by maxi Quote
maxi Posted December 24, 2006 Author Posted December 24, 2006 hello again. this time I´ll show you the building process of a rc yf-19. this is a very simple model made of foam. It has no wingfoil and it can fly. well, here is the thread. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread....highlight=yf+19 Quote
maxi Posted January 16, 2007 Author Posted January 16, 2007 Hi guys. At the moment the project is in stand-by because personal issues. I hope I can return to it as soon as possible. Sorry, see ya. Quote
bsu legato Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 That was a wild ride. No kidding. I really had my hopes up there, for a few weeks. Quote
IAD Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Well, I guess this is where I chime in: Couple things: First, the YF-19 is DEFINTELY flightworthy. Parasitic drag, yes, but the great thing on a model is you can often get absurd thrust/weight ratios. Granted, it won't be an efficient model, but it will fly. Second: However, the first comment only applies to the aircraft in fighter mode! While never one to wantonly discourage crazy plans, a flying, transforming YF-19 is pretty close to cold fusion, on a scale of impossibility. Aside from any consideration of how to automate the transformation process, there is no practical control system on the -19, which would be effective in any sort of hover mode. (GERWALK, or otherwise.) Furthermore, as has been pointed out, the weight of the actuators required to transform such an aircraft would be quite high, especially since the geometries of many of the joints give little in the way of mechanical advantage. The stresses an aircraft (model or otherwise) experiences in flight can be fairly extreme, and even things as [seemingly] simple as variable-geometry wings (F-14/VF-0/VF-1) can be extremely difficult to get to function on a flying model. I don't mean to sound like a spoilsport here, but when it comes down to it, the realities of physics pretty much dictate that transforming aircraft have to remain in the realms of animation, at least for the (extremely long) foreseeable future. ~Luke Quote
myk Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Where's that damned Over-technology when we need it? Quote
KingNor Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Well, I guess this is where I chime in: Couple things: First, the YF-19 is DEFINTELY flightworthy. Parasitic drag, yes, but the great thing on a model is you can often get absurd thrust/weight ratios. Granted, it won't be an efficient model, but it will fly. Second: However, the first comment only applies to the aircraft in fighter mode! While never one to wantonly discourage crazy plans, a flying, transforming YF-19 is pretty close to cold fusion, on a scale of impossibility. Aside from any consideration of how to automate the transformation process, there is no practical control system on the -19, which would be effective in any sort of hover mode. (GERWALK, or otherwise.) Furthermore, as has been pointed out, the weight of the actuators required to transform such an aircraft would be quite high, especially since the geometries of many of the joints give little in the way of mechanical advantage. The stresses an aircraft (model or otherwise) experiences in flight can be fairly extreme, and even things as [seemingly] simple as variable-geometry wings (F-14/VF-0/VF-1) can be extremely difficult to get to function on a flying model. I don't mean to sound like a spoilsport here, but when it comes down to it, the realities of physics pretty much dictate that transforming aircraft have to remain in the realms of animation, at least for the (extremely long) foreseeable future. ~Luke Well, yes, that and the fact that he stated he had the entire leg mechanism working after only a week, and offered zero proof, neither photos or even a rough description of how he'd accomplished this. Extarodinary claims requuire extraordinary evidence. IMHO this thread stinks of "little kid looking for attention" Quote
maxi Posted February 15, 2007 Author Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) Well, yes, that and the fact that he stated he had the entire leg mechanism working after only a week, and offered zero proof, neither photos or even a rough description of how he'd accomplished this. Extarodinary claims requuire extraordinary evidence. IMHO this thread stinks of "little kid looking for attention" Look KingNor, I am not a "little kid" that just look for attention. The reason because I haven´t post any picture is simple, I don´t have digital camera or scanner either. I just want to try if it is possible to do. And I guess that the only way to prove it is doing it. If it has to fail, will fail, if it doesn´t better. I don´t want to be rude, but I´ll do it even if you say that it can´t be done. We´ll see. Edited February 19, 2007 by maxi Quote
maxi Posted February 15, 2007 Author Posted February 15, 2007 Well, I guess this is where I chime in: Couple things: First, the YF-19 is DEFINTELY flightworthy. Parasitic drag, yes, but the great thing on a model is you can often get absurd thrust/weight ratios. Granted, it won't be an efficient model, but it will fly. Second: However, the first comment only applies to the aircraft in fighter mode! While never one to wantonly discourage crazy plans, a flying, transforming YF-19 is pretty close to cold fusion, on a scale of impossibility. Aside from any consideration of how to automate the transformation process, there is no practical control system on the -19, which would be effective in any sort of hover mode. (GERWALK, or otherwise.) Furthermore, as has been pointed out, the weight of the actuators required to transform such an aircraft would be quite high, especially since the geometries of many of the joints give little in the way of mechanical advantage. The stresses an aircraft (model or otherwise) experiences in flight can be fairly extreme, and even things as [seemingly] simple as variable-geometry wings (F-14/VF-0/VF-1) can be extremely difficult to get to function on a flying model. I don't mean to sound like a spoilsport here, but when it comes down to it, the realities of physics pretty much dictate that transforming aircraft have to remain in the realms of animation, at least for the (extremely long) foreseeable future. ~Luke Thanks for the comment IAD. Obiously because you have done your sv-51, your oppinion wheigts more than other member´s. I´ll keep you informed of the proyect progress. thanks again. Quote
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