Casino Royale 007 thread

[wolfx]

They didn't make that obvious in the movie that's why i was confused on who's the baddie.

thanks JsARCLIGHT

[Skullsixx]

Actually, it was a BMW 750iL.

Come to think of it, has Lee Tamahori directed anything good other than Along Came a Spider and The Edge?

Once Were Warriors was pretty cool.

[areaseven]

Thanks for the correction, A7. Also, come to think of it, my hatred for Halle Berry might make her the worst Bond girl but then I remember how I winced every time Michelle Yeo came on screen during Tomorrow Never Dies.

Worse than Denise Richards? That's a surprise.

[Mechinyun]

Im to lazy to answer all those questions, but here are a few..

BEST BOND: UP YOURS TREBECK! Of course connery

BEST FILM: Thunderball... represent!

BEST BOND GIRL NAME: Girl: My name is plenty, plenty o'tool. Connery: <smug> Named after your father perhaps?

Best bond theme: The james bond theme! Nothing comes close.

BEST Bond car: DB5 decked out.

[eugimon]

watched the new bond film today and I have to say I really liked it.

I thought they really managed to reboot the franchise and make it more gritty while still maintaining the charm and wit of the old connery movies.

Craig did good as well and I have to say he really sold the role and was ver capable in his role as bond.

[JKeats]

Worse than Denise Richards? That's a surprise.

At least Denise Richards was somewhat attractive, so I guess that puts her above Michelle "Hiya!" Yeo in my book.

[NoSuchFile]

Watched the movie... Worst Bond Ever, i can almost count the number of people he killed on my hand, ON MY HAND!!!!!

[Warmaker]

Bond movies were NEVER about Bodycounts.

Now, movies like Rambo and such were.

Perhaps you saw the wrong movie?

[Raptor]

Um, no you can't.

He TOTALLY went "Russian Archives" (the post-interrogation gunfight from Goldeneye) on those guys in the African Embassy.

At least 7 kills just there...

[myk]

Craig's Bond is a cold one. He didn't even shed a tear or blink an eye when he discovered Solange's cold, naked, dead body wrapped in a hammock. Hmm, maybe he was just sorry that he didn't get a chance to boink her...

[JsARCLIGHT]

Actually I thought the Craig Bond DID feel for the dead that he had known. The way the scenes with the dead Solagne were shot they focused on him staring at the body with this look on his face... to some that look is cold, but to people who have seen that look it is the look of a person doing everything they can to maintain composure and repress their feelings. Later on in the movie when things start going badly you can see him changing... he no longer has to force himself to repress those emotions and you can see him becoming more and more closed off. Spoiler: in particular when he learns of Vesper's betrayal, you can see him become quite emotional but he quickly regains his composure to chase after her... when he finally confronts her and Mr. half tint you can see he is still emotionally struggling with the situation but he is starting to shut his feelings down It is easy for him in this confrontation because he has something to attack and someone to defend, which from a psychological standpoint is quite easy to deal with as you have the emotional stress of worry over a loved one but the emotional release of the fight. Vesper's death then totally breaks his attempts to be icy which may have then given him the emotional damage he needed to completely shut down his feelings. At the end of the movie when he is standing over Mr. White's kneecapped body holding his UMP aloft you can see in his face... the smile. He had by that point completely turned off his emotions and become Bond.

[ychanus]

Just watched this movie, best bond ever. He is very cool. The only Bond film I'll watch again.

[kalvasflam]

I also just watched it. It was a very good Bond picture, the story flowed nicely, and it broke more or less the Bond formula of ending up with the girl. I suppose it sets up for a sequel for sure. How good that is, I guess we'll find out in two years or so.

This Bond though ain't nearly as smooth as the former Bonds. If it is a reboot of the series, then it's a good thing.

[myk]

Nope, he's no longer smooth, debonair, witty, suave or even remotely good looking. He's just a ruthless, mission oriented, womanizing, killing machine. We can now safely and conveniently categorize him with other generic action heroes like the Transporter, Jet Li, Chuck Norris, Segal, Van Damme, Swarzenegger......Lorenzo Lamas? You get my drift. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed 'Royale, it's just my humble opinion that the reimagining of Bond is going in the wrong direction...

[CoryHolmes]

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed 'Royale, it's just my humble opinion that the reimagining of Bond is going in the wrong direction...

Well, let's not be too quick to judge. I want to see how they make the inevitable sequel, since it did seem that at the end of the movie he'd transformed into the Bond we all know and envy. If the next film is exactly like this one, then you'd have cause to complain. If instead he's more like the Bond of the past, say a Connery-type Bond, then things will be good again.

[Roy Focker]

Problem with the in the rough Bond is that he should already be polished. He is a what a mid level civil servant with high security clearance? Where were his manners? charm and grooming? He is still a Navy officer in it. You'd expected him to be more refined then a brutish thug. What ever refinement he naturally lacked his school, navy and the MI6 would have fixed well before the movie.

[JsARCLIGHT]

This new Bond was apparently pulled from an SAS special forces unit before entering MI6, he is by no means a "gentleman" at this point in the game. Most operators are rough and tumble, stubble and cigarettes... a far cry from your pleasant, cordial diplomat or front office paper pusher. Manners and carry are not something taught at Hereford, just how to smash doors, wire explosives and make problems for queen and country vanish. M herself even describes Bond as a "blunt instrument", lacking in finesse and tact but more than capable when it comes to violence. After all in the real world "spies" are not born with all their class and personality, they usually grow into that after a while "on the job". Then again most spies are not window smashing, guns-a-blazin' tuxedo commandos either. The character of Bond has always been sort of a cross between the traditional spy and a more modern SAS field operative, more wetworks than cloak and dagger.

[HoveringCheesecake]

Just got back from Casino Royale. Pure awesomeness.

EDIT: And I think I'm a retard, at least when it comes to Bond movies. I'm a casual Bond fan, and when Vesper sat down and said "I'm the money." and Bond says "and the Penny." I went through the rest of the movie (up until she dies) thinking she was Moneypenny. What's the deal with that? Man she was hot, I was hoping she was Moneypenny so I would see more of her.

Edited December 4, 2006 by meh_cd

[promethuem5]

Haha, yeah, I kinda thought she was supoosed to be Moneypenny for a while too... that was a weird line to throw in.

[Raptor]

of course she isn't Moneypenny... MP and JB never do it

[HoveringCheesecake]

So, is moneypenny used by Bond in the "later" movies as his own way of remembering Vesper? *confused*

[JsARCLIGHT]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Moneypenny has always been M's secretary and she and Bond have always had a sort of "flirt with the bosses' secretary" sort of thing going on. Also keep in mind this movie is a "restart" of the franchise... there may not be a Moneypenny in this new Bond era.

[Hurin]

As someone who has probably only seen two full James Bond movies from beginning to end. . . but has seen bits and pieces of several. . . I thought this one was a really good. It's a very well done "reboot" of the franchise.

Bond movies haven't ever really gotten me excited. I've mainly watched them when others wanted to do so. But, from here on out, I'll be seeing each one.

My wife is now in love with Daniel Craig. I don't blame her.

[HoveringCheesecake]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Moneypenny has always been M's secretary and she and Bond have always had a sort of "flirt with the bosses' secretary" sort of thing going on. Also keep in mind this movie is a "restart" of the franchise... there may not be a Moneypenny in this new Bond era.

Ah, I assumed that this was simply a prequel. Moneypenny wasn't in this movie, though. I thought that Vesper WAS Moneypenny. i.e. that scene was where Bond met Moneypenny and Vesper was a fake code name. I thought her Treasury job was just a cover. Do you understand what I mean now?

Edited December 5, 2006 by meh_cd

[CoryHolmes]

there may not be a Moneypenny in this new Bond era.

Cease such sacraligious language.

[JsARCLIGHT]

You want sacraligious?

Craig wants Bond "Gay Scene" in next movie

Who needs Moneypenny when you have Mannypenny?

[azrael]

He also wants full frontal nudity from the article.....

[HoveringCheesecake]

You want sacraligious?

Craig wants Bond "Gay Scene" in next movie

Who needs Moneypenny when you have Mannypenny?

I hope... oh I hope that isn't real. Yes, society has come a long way in the last 40 years when it comes to homosexuals... but damnit Bond IS NOT gay. He's a badass womanizer, galdanget.

[Roy Focker]

Well a realistic gritty Bond would screw men if wasn't gay.

If M tells him to seduce a male forgein agent...

[kalvasflam]

You want sacraligious?

Craig wants Bond "Gay Scene" in next movie

Who needs Moneypenny when you have Mannypenny?

This goes right along with a female starbuck doing Baltar. Heh, may be Bond will sit down with the villian and have a nice chat about his emotional needs and why he feel he must dominate the world, and then talk him out of it with a lovely little man-chat.

If that's what Craig thinks about Bond, I say give him the George Lazenby treatment.

[Dat Pinche Haro!]

wow...just wow...all this crap is making me want to watch Casino Royale even less... I don't wanna know of craig wanting a gay scene in Bond...this is just riddiculous....

[yellowlightman]

I really couldn't give a crap what Daniel Craig thinks Bond should do or how he should act-- he's an actor, not a writer/producer/director and as such doesn't have much creative control over the franchise. That said, Craig is the best Bond since Connery (and in many ways I prefer him to Connery) so as long as they keep making awesome movies with him in it, I don't care what he says.

[JsARCLIGHT]

I accepted a long time ago that an actor is not the character they portray in the movie... but many of them find ways to bridge that gap. Big name actors can and will influence the direction movies go in, it's quite common. Now Craig wanting a "Gay Scene" most likely will never fly as it goes against the core of what Bond represents, but don't write his views off as the immaterial rantings of an "actor" who has no push on the film. If he put his mind to it he could easily influence the production... especially if his popularity takes off due to this performance.

Then again Craig is not the only Bond actor who has had views on how the franchise should be handled. Every Bond actor has voiced in the press to some degree their desire to alter the Bond character based on their own opinions and views... and nothing has ever come from them to any degree... yet.

[rnurmin]

Found this video in YouTube. I posted it here since it is somewhat related to James Bond.

Has anyone seen it yet? It is hilarious

James Bond Visa

Edited December 6, 2006 by rnurmin

[White Knight]

Craig doesn't want a gay scene as far as I can see, he said he would do a full frontal, (and some homophobic people think thats gay).