Iron Man the Movie

[chrono]

I think Mandarin is too big of a threat to be wasted on the 2nd movie... I'm assuming there's going to be a third movie.

Agreed! Mandarin only works with build-up, but even then the Rings throw a nasty curve into the equation.

IM works because it has a plausible reality to it. However Mandarin has a quite problematic "supervillian" magic issue that would throw IM into "WTF!?!?"-ville for many non fans in the audience. If they stick with plausible and semi-realistic villains, which IM has in spades, then it would be great.

Using A.I.M. in the next film along with the Black Widow stealing the IM plans for "mother russia" would be good, because it would allow for plenty of potential "Armor Wars" later on.

[RichterX]

Agreed! Mandarin only works with build-up, but even then the Rings throw a nasty curve into the equation.

IM works because it has a plausible reality to it. However Mandarin has a quite problematic "supervillian" magic issue that would throw IM into "WTF!?!?"-ville for many non fans in the audience. If they stick with plausible and semi-realistic villains, which IM has in spades, then it would be great.

Using A.I.M. in the next film along with the Black Widow stealing the IM plans for "mother russia" would be good, because it would allow for plenty of potential "Armor Wars" later on.

Is the mandarin even around in the Ultimate universe? Considering they are pretty much following that continuity...

[EXO]

Instant sequel! Just add water, and a lot of fannies in the seats. On the heels of Iron Man pulling in more than $200 million worldwide since its release last week, Marvel Studios announced there will be an Iron Man 2.

The sequel's release is scheduled for April 10, 2010.

Marvel plans some superhero cross-pollination on the big screen. Robert Downey, Jr.'s Iron Man character, Tony Stark, will make an appearance in The Incredible Hulk, due out in June. Studio chief David Maisel says it's likely the Hulk will make an appearance in Iron Man 2.

The studio has several other films in the offing based on Marvel superheroes, including Thor (June 2010), The First Avenger: Captain America, (May 2011) and The Avengers (July 2011). — J.R. Whalen

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TV...-Iron/800038948

[Radd]

Wow.

Of course, looking at Marvel's comic-to-movie track record, there's a pretty even amount of hits and misses. Of course, when they hit, it tends to be spectacular.

Hopefully few, if any, of these movies will get the second hand treatment, but I can't help but feel that some of them will, simply because they're making so many in such a short period of time.

There's a Wolverine movie, and a Magneto movie coming eventually too, isn't there?

[eugimon]

Is the mandarin even around in the Ultimate universe? Considering they are pretty much following that continuity...

Huh? Iron Man doesn't follow the ultimate Iron Man back story *at all*. Ultimate Tony Stark was covered in some sort of nanite second skin to counteract some sort of genetic tinkering which spread "undiferentiated neural tissue" throughout his body (he has a giant brain in his upper body). Ulimate Tony also has a brain tumor, not a heart problem which is squarely 616. And the MK III doesn't look anything like the ultimate IM suit.

The movies are taking some queues from the Ultimates, like the costumes for the x-men and sam jackson as Nick Fury (awesome) but the actual story lines ares pretty different.

[kanedaestes]

I think in the second one it should be like The Dark Knight where the story is about the rise of the Mandarin but there is another villian posing a threat. And yes he has to succumb to alcholism and have Rhody take over and go over board since they established he is more gung ho than Stark a lot. In the Dark Knight if you don't know it is about the creation of Two-Face and the Joker is just a force of anarchy that comes throughout the film. This has been said many many times already by the filmmakers. Then the third movie will be all about the Mandarin. Although we all know they probably won't go to the space rings, they will most likely be magical to keep the film more based on Earth like they did with Spider-Man 3.

Edited May 6, 2008 by kanedaestes

[Radd]

Ja, they seem to be going with a more subdued world here. Relatively more realistic than the comics themselves. Like how they made the Juggernaut a mutant, rather than a guy with a magical gem.

I wouldn't be surprised if the movie Mandarin is nothing at all like the comics version. The 10 rings might not be so literal. If they are, then they might be more earthly technology.

[Dangard Ace]

Might end up being the son of the Mandarin vs Stark.

[eugimon]

Ja, they seem to be going with a more subdued world here. Relatively more realistic than the comics themselves. Like how they made the Juggernaut a mutant, rather than a guy with a magical gem.

I wouldn't be surprised if the movie Mandarin is nothing at all like the comics version. The 10 rings might not be so literal. If they are, then they might be more earthly technology.

Yeah, I really hope they re-imagine the Mandarin entirely. Make him more of a political/military/religious leader, someone who is antithetical to Stark. A populist or religious leader who is able to use charm and charisma to affect his broader political plans where-as Stark is more of an elitest with a more myopic view of humanity.

[Radd]

I have to admit, I've never read a single issue of Iron Man. I don't know anything about him aside from what others have told me, and bits and pieces I've picked up from a couple stray issues of Civil War co-workers brought in for people to read on breaks. So long as it's good, I certainly won't mind if they take a few liberties like that to make it work with the Marvel-Movie world they've been making.

[UN Spacy]

Have you guys had any trouble finding the figures?

I really want the Mark Three and Stealth (War Machine) variants.

[Sundown]

Hmm, perhaps Iron Man 2 could feature Stark seeking solace in drink with the new pressures of being a public Iron Man. With both work, alchohol, and casual relationships with other women (most notably ballet dancer Natalia Romanova), driving a wedge between any potential relationship between him and Potts, she eventually dates and agrees to marry Hogan (Favreau) as per the comics. In typical Tony Stark fashion, he attempts to salve his wounds by delving further into his relationship with Romanova, who of course betrays him as the Black Widow, stealing the IM plans for hardliners in the Russian government. After this betrayal, Stark descends fully into alchoholism, forcing Rhodes to take up Iron Man's mantle and combat the Crimson Dynamo, built with the stolen Iron Man technology. Of course Stark eventually recovers, but not without some Jack Bauer season 3-esque moments resisting the ever-present bottle.

Edited May 6, 2008 by Sundown

[Fort Max]

Ahhhhhhh we need a Bandai SPEC IRON MAN!!! Fully articulated base figure with snap on diecast armor! MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

QFT, when I heard about Hasbro's 12" figure with snap on armour I hoped it would be something like that (only plastic, natch) but I doubt it is (haven't actually seen it in the UK yet).

I just saw the film last night on bank holiday monday and what a way to end a long weekend of lovely weather.

This film blew me away, I can't recall seeing a film this entertaining in the cinema in a long time. Being a tech geek, engineer and an Iron Man fan myself it was almost pornographic.

I loved how they updated his pacemaker to something way more hi-tech and then used that as a driving force for the plot, Downey Jr was just fantastic as Stark, he made him so much more interesting and identifiable then any cartoon incarnation I'd seen and there were a lot of genuinely funny and even touching scenes. Seeing him watch a news report then fly off to kick the crap out of the militants involved was just briliant as it's something I've wanted to do myself when watching the news somedays.

But what really made this film work for me was the astounding attention to detail, they never cheaped out on any of the armour's mechanical effects and every piece of the suit had relaistic looking coverings and joints. The scene where the automated production arms just seem to hurl the suit onto him in a matter of seconds was simply stunning. As someone who grew up on Thunderbirds and James Bond flicks I was just sitting there with my mouth agape, like I said, it was pure tech geek porn.

I really wish Transformers had been half this good.

As for problems, yeah Stane did knock out a suit pretty quickly but it was big, crude and it had been built for him by a whole team of his very best engineers. Like the lead guy said, it had all been easy except for the slick new power source needed for it.

And yeah, he did seem a little too sufficent with it, but again it was big and simple, probably easier to drive then Tony's suits and when Stane mentioned his improvements he was probably only thinking of strength and weapons, such is his character type.

I completely missed the reference to the Mandarin and I didn't even think about sticking around once the credit's deconstruction animation's had finished but those are things I can catch on the dvd when it comes out.

As for War Machine, I read that piece from Terence Howard on Superhero hype and thought all the more of him as an actor for not wanting to rush WM into it so he could get a starring role in a spinoff.

Gonna be a long wait til May 2010.

Edited May 6, 2008 by Fort Max

[VF-2SS-BloodPhoenix]

Have you guys had any trouble finding the figures?

I really want the Mark Three and Stealth (War Machine) variants.

After seeing the movie and liking it, I went looking for the toys too.

Unfortunately, the War Machine variant Walmart exclusive is probably gone by now. The toys were out one month before the movie was released and all that time I just ignored them because I didn't really care about it til after watching the movie.

The only toys I was able to get were the Target exclusive version, Mark 2 suit, and the Mark 3 suit six inch figures. They should still be plentiful. The Walmart exclusive version is sold out, even on Walmart's online store. There's plenty on eBay though.

QFT, when I heard about Hasbro's 12" figure with snap on armour I hoped it would be something like that (only plastic, natch) but I doubt it is (haven't actually seen it in the UK yet).

I bought the 12 inch figure and was thoroghly disappointed. I would certainly like a better detailed armored version in 1:6 scale, definitely!

I'm thinking about getting the life size bust too...

[karmajay]

Have you guys had any trouble finding the figures?

I really want the Mark Three and Stealth (War Machine) variants

I was able to buy every one on ebay Sat. I saw the stealth one but figured I would stop by Walmart first this week to just see if it was there.

I also bought the large Iron Man toy where you can push the "reflex heart" and you hear war sounds and sayings. Pretty cool.

[promethuem5]

I managed to secure the Target Silver Centurion variant and the WalMart WarMachine a while ago, and have the rest of the figures on preorder from BBTS including both IronMongers and Titanium Man... but no, all I can find around me at stores is the Prototype removable armor fig...

[VF-2SS-BloodPhoenix]

Just wanted to warn those who are looking for some of the six inch figures.

If you're not interested in a good painted figure, then you probably won't care.

Basically you'll want to check the paint on each figure for unpainted spots, messy splotches, missed painted spots, etc. Main areas to look for are the helmet and upper legs.

Out of the six 6 inch Mark 3 suits I looked at, I only found one that was better than the others.

Also look for damaged joints or anything visible through the bubble window.

[promethuem5]

Yeah, I managed to get a WarMachine with the grey midsection, so I've gotta repaint that, and when I got my Repulsor Red, I went ahead and panel-lined the figure... really brought out the detail. I saw what you mean with the hit-or-miss paintjobs on all of the Prototype figs I saw the other day tho.,..

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

QFT, when I heard about Hasbro's 12" figure with snap on armour I hoped it would be something like that (only plastic, natch) but I doubt it is (haven't actually seen it in the UK yet).

It isn't. It looks like the Repulsor Blast Iron Man. Articulation is minimal(not super articulated), and the armor add ons are plates for weaponry and cannons. Nothing like what is seen in the movie.

Have you guys had any trouble finding the figures?

I really want the Mark Three and Stealth (War Machine) variants.

mk3 is packed the most per case, and War Machine was harder to find a few weeks after release. Only lasted a few weeks in my area, right now he is hard to find.

As for War Machine, I read that piece from Terence Howard on Superhero hype and thought all the more of him as an actor for not wanting to rush WM into it so he could get a starring role in a spinoff.

Same here. He did a great job as Rhodey.

I completely missed the reference to the Mandarin and I didn't even think about sticking around once the credit's deconstruction animation's had finished but those are things I can catch on the dvd when it comes out.

The morons in the theater I was in cut the film off right before Nick Fury was to show up in the credits. I had to watch it on youtube.

[UN Spacy]

GREAT I just broke the wrist trying to rotate it 360 degrees. It's pretty flimsy. I guess I'll have to trade it in tomorrow.

The wrist articulation for the Mark 03 sculpt SUCKS. The pod above the hand prevents any sort of repulsor firing poses.

[Fort Max]

It isn't. It looks like the Repulsor Blast Iron Man. Articulation is minimal(not super articulated), and the armor add ons are plates for weaponry and cannons. Nothing like what is seen in the movie.

The morons in the theater I was in cut the film off right before Nick Fury was to show up in the credits. I had to watch it on youtube.

Pity, are there any good well detailed figures worth buying from Hasbro's line up?

Yeah, I caught Nick's appearence on the tube as well. Great that they're already bringing in the existence of the Avengers for the planned movie in 2011 but I hope it doesn't faeture in their individual movies too much.

Are they doing a new Nick Fury flick to go with the other half dozen or so films they've got planned?

[Beware of Blast]

Just got word that HotToys are making IronMan.

FROM THE HOT TOYS NEWSLETTER 4/29/08

Just wondering if you like the MAN who made with IRON…… - Before the Dark Knight arrives, another Marvel Hero - the IRON MAN will hit the theatres this week, and our Hot Toys team is ready to watch the first showing together. Didn’t we tell you how much we love movies? Here is the much-anticipated news you are looking for: To celebrate the debut of Iron Man, Hot Toys has been granted the license of this super hero and our Creative Team has started to work on the MMS series. Meanwhile, let’s buy the ticket online

[RDClip]

Just saw it and i was pretty impressed. I dont know much about Iron Man, the only comic i read that features him was the Ultimates, but from what i do know they stay pretty faithful to his origin story. RD Jr did an amazing job that i didnt think many could really do. Lets face it Tony Stark is kinda a prick and RD Jr captured it perfectly. My only qualm is they didnt really make mention of Stark's slight alcoholism that later becomes his big story.

P.S. The secret scene of Samuel L Jackson gave me hope that the Captain America + Avengers movies will follow the Ultimates storyline

[eugimon]

Just saw it and i was pretty impressed. I dont know much about Iron Man, the only comic i read that features him was the Ultimates, but from what i do know they stay pretty faithful to his origin story. RD Jr did an amazing job that i didnt think many could really do. Lets face it Tony Stark is kinda a prick and RD Jr captured it perfectly. My only qualm is they didnt really make mention of Stark's slight alcoholism that later becomes his big story.

P.S. The secret scene of Samuel L Jackson gave me hope that the Captain America + Avengers movies will follow the Ultimates storyline

several characters mention what a boozer Stark is, the foundation for his alcholism is clearly laid. Yinsen mentions quite clearly that the first time he met Stark was at some conference where Stark gave a lecture boozed out of his mind. And early on, Stark is seen in almost every scene with a drink in hand. He's drinking at the casino, he's drinking in the 'fun-vee' he drinks right after the Jericho presentation, he's drinking with rhodes in the plane going to the jericho presentation...

Edited May 7, 2008 by eugimon

[Fort Max]

Just got word that HotToys are making IronMan.

Ah, that's them, I was trying to remember the name of the company that made the big Ed-209 and Aliens figures.

They could really do an amazing job based on what I've seen from them, here's hoping they'll have an early prototype at comic con.

[promethuem5]

Hoooray for a HotToys fig... and I had forgotten, fun-vee

[kanedaestes]

several characters mention what a boozer Stark is, the foundation for his alcholism is clearly laid. Yinsen mentions quite clearly that the first time he met Stark was at some conference where Stark gave a lecture boozed out of his mind. And early on, Stark is seen in almost every scene with a drink in hand. He's drinking at the casino, he's drinking in the 'fun-vee' he drinks right after the Jericho presentation, he's drinking with rhodes in the plane going to the jericho presentation...

That was one of the best things too. I thought that they might try and stay away from his alchololsim but it was very apparent that he is a drunk in the film. It is one of the things that define him, he drinks and it comes back to haunt him and cause more problems than any of most of his rogue gallery could ever do. In a sense Stark is and always has been his own worst enemy. Just take a look at the Civil War he caused in the comics which led to the "death" of his best friend Steve Rogers aka Captain America.

[rikiryou]

Hawt news for Hot Toys fig, but it'd probably cost quite a bit as to be expected. =/ I wonder what the chances are for a Movie Realisation Iron Man; they did Spider-man after all. Then again that was because where was Supaidaman so chances are probably slimmer for IM.

Hasbro's IM figures were a little disappointing. No interchangeable hands; weird right hand sculpt with that semi-pointing pose. Really weird hip joints. Feet should've either been ball jointed or at least double jointed. Oh well. I had to split the wrist joints a bit with a hobby knife so it could swivel, too. Damn dried paint pretty much glued that joint tight; forcing it only made stress marks.

At least it looks pretty good on Marvel Legends Modern Armor Iron Man's stand.

Edited May 7, 2008 by rikiryou

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

Feet should've either been ball jointed

They are, the ankle armor just blocks movement.

Really weird hip joints.

Those are standard on Marvel Legends figures for the past 2 & 1/2 years, maybe more so. If you collected ML, you are used to this.

I had to split the wrist joints a bit with a hobby knife so it could swivel, too. Damn dried paint pretty much glued that joint tight; forcing it only made stress marks.

That sucks, I've had a few breakages due to stuck joints.

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

Pity, are there any good well detailed figures worth buying from Hasbro's line up?

The 6" figures. Any of the mk armors are good, avoid the punching Iron Monger(first one), get the Iron monger with opening cockpit. In package, you can see Obadiah Stane, so you'll know for sure which Iron Monger is which.

GREAT I just broke the wrist trying to rotate it 360 degrees. It's pretty flimsy.

That sucks man. If you have a stuck joint in the next one, try shoving it in the freezer for a few minutes, before trying to move the stuck joint.

Just saw it and i was pretty impressed. I dont know much about Iron Man, the only comic i read that features him was the Ultimates, but from what i do know they stay pretty faithful to his origin story.

Mark Millar consulted the movie, and they brought him in primarily because movie Iron Man is derived much from Ultimate Iron Man.

P.S. The secret scene of Samuel L Jackson gave me hope that the Captain America + Avengers movies will follow the Ultimates storyline

Its definitely looking that way. In the upcoming Hulk movie, I've heard that Bruce Banner is dropped from a helicopter as a catalyst for transforming into the Hulk. This was one of the highlights in the Ultimates. Jackson and RDJ have cameos in that movie.

[Scream Man]

jackson is in Hulk too? Awesome!

Saw I.M. again last night; Stane is definitely referring to the Mk1 suit when he says his is improved from Tonys

Edited May 8, 2008 by Scream Man

[eugimon]

That doesn't make much sense though. Stane is looking right at the MKIII when he says his suit is more advanced besides, stane also says something to the effect of: my suit isn't as conservative as yours.

And remember, by this time, Stane knows that Tony has a new suit since scarface already told him about tony wiping out the weapons depot.

[kanedaestes]

I think he believed it was without knowning the full power Stark actual had like when he blasted him from his chest. The Mark III suit has a lot more to it than even in the audience knew so Stane didn't know either. He just assumed it all

[eugimon]

I think he believed it was without knowning the full power Stark actual had like when he blasted him from his chest. The Mark III suit has a lot more to it than even in the audience knew so Stane didn't know either. He just assumed it all

true, and I get that obi was talking out of his ass, but I'm just saying... he KNEW that Tony's suit was at least capable of taking out a rather heavily armed weapons depot when he made his claim. He was probably wrong in claiming the iron monger suit was better than the MK III, but I don't think obi was refering to the MK I... that's just silly.

Edited May 8, 2008 by eugimon

[Scream Man]

the line about being conservative was before the fight with the Mk3. His convo with the 10 Rings guy wasnt very long, all he said was "He has a more refined suit now" no details given. I'm with Kaned on reflection; He was makign assumptions about Tonys suit. He was basically assuming that bigger was better.