Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Maybe not 1/35 but I am quite sure I saw a blue Tread which was taller then the Gakken 1/35 Legioss some years ago. It was on a locked glass shelf display so I am not sure if its a toy or model.
baronv Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Well I just watched the SC yesterday and after seeing it I was wondering when Toynami would make the Alphas available again with the new paint schemes and then BAM on MW here s the new thread. The Cyclones look nice but looks very much like the oldschool version. While the black/purple Maia Sterling Alpha looks o.k., I don't need anymore Alphas, I want a Beta especially after so much screen time in the movie.
TheLoneWolf Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Toynami's showing off the Beta again to help push sales of the new Shadow Chronicles Alpha toys. Remember when Toynami did this exact same thing during the initial run of the MPC Alpha's? I can see it now... Toynami: "And these new Shadow Chronicle Alphas will be able to combine with our upcoming Beta!" after the all the SC Alphas have been released Toynami: "Gee, sorry guys but it looks like we won't be able to release the Beta for X, Y, and Z reasons (suckers!)"
Vermillion One Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Either that, or they now feel there are enough viable color variants to produce the beta. Either way, I do hope it gets made.
Shaggydog Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Yeah, a wait-and-see attitude is definitely called for. I don't think they would have bothered to show it if they weren't at least considering mass-producing it. But, this wouldn't be the first toy shown at toy fair that never got made. For example, Bandai showed a ton of zeta gundam toys for the domestic market a few years back, and many of those disappeared into the void. I'm happy to see it again! Looks great to me! (unlike those minibikes that pass for cyclones )
do not disturb Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 i've given up on toyanmi, they're always jerking me off but never making me cum....
Fort Max Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 LOL It looks nice, I just wish they'd release the damn thing since Yamato shows no inclination of doing likewise.
bigkid24 Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Ugh. I think a better paint job would make it more appealing. They want to charge $200 for that thing? No thanks.
Shaggydog Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Well, according to figures.com, they're finally going to release the beta later this year: http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cg...le=109&nl=1 usual disclaimers: figures.com sometimes pulls stuff out of their asses, and even if Toynami is really saying this, it don't mean it'll happen. Believe it when you see it. Call me a sucker, but I'm a little more hopeful now (as an aside, JoshB at CollectionDX.com had an interview with Toynami yesterday, so I'm hoping he'll give us all a scoop on the Beta situation sometime soon)
jenius Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Ooh hey, it also hints at a Vince MPC Cyclone... sweet. Limiting production to 10K also seems like a good idea.
Shaggydog Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 More mixed messages: word from collectiondx is that Toynami is just 'gauging interest' in the beta. They mentioned a possible price of 150. Looks like more waiting-and-seeing for us. TOYNAMI: I'M INTERESTED !
Lynx7725 Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) For crying out loud. Why is there even a question of "Interest"? Fans of Mospeda/ Robotech NG have a high probability of wanting a Beta. Alphas and Cyclones are still somewhat available on the third-party markets, but a Beta is impossible to find. It's a silly question, the interest is there to be tapped. The real question that should be asked is how cheaply Toynami can make it while sustaining value for money. $150 USD is a lot to ask for, even factoring in for the size, so the functionalities/ features of the Beta had to be fairly complete and accurate. If Toynami is not capable of doing it -- and by no means am I saying they can't at the moment, I hope they can -- then they really have to think seriously about their marketing strategy. Frankly speaking, I wish Toynami would just stop the "high end toy selling for $$$" approach. I would even settle for a cheaper, less accurate Alpha/ Beta somewhat along the line of Banpresto stuff. This is even more so when we are talking about the enemies, especially the "hive/ horde" mentality that Inbits and say, Zentradi had. Speaking of which, just when is anyone ever going to give the Inbits some love? We got good human stuff, but they still need something to fight. I'd love to see a properly scaled Gurab to pose with the Alpha.. Edited February 15, 2007 by Lynx7725
do not disturb Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) they should release 1/100 scale alpha and betas, atleast the quality would be somewhat better. as i said in the past, if they make it everyone would buy it as they would be the only game in town. only game in town = $$$$ its not like you can take your business elsewhere(even if its a POS) if theres nowhere else to go...cha-ching! Edited February 15, 2007 by do not disturb
Shaggydog Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Speaking of which, just when is anyone ever going to give the Inbits some love? We got good human stuff, but they still need something to fight. I'd love to see a properly scaled Gurab to pose with the Alpha.. Aye, so true.. and they could do them cheaply, as 'superposeable' toys, since they don't transform.. if only we ran the toy companies.
jenius Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 they should release 1/100 scale alpha and betas, atleast the quality would be somewhat better. I think Toynami's "morpher" alphas are practically 1/100 scale. For the record, for little morpher toys the Alphas are kinda cool (much better than the VF-1 morphers)! Better than Gakken's 1/72 series even. Now, if Toynami made an Alpha jokemachine... that'd be the lick. Me and like 2 other people would totally buy Alpha jokemachines... I wonder why they won't make 'em...
Phyrox Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 I think Toynami's "morpher" alphas are practically 1/100 scale. For the record, for little morpher toys the Alphas are kinda cool (much better than the VF-1 morphers)! Better than Gakken's 1/72 series even. Now, if Toynami made an Alpha jokemachine... that'd be the lick. Me and like 2 other people would totally buy Alpha jokemachines... I wonder why they won't make 'em... Make that three other people. If they were the quality of the jokemachines I'd be all over 'em. The morphers are pretty nice in battloid, but not so good in fighter mode.
Mog Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) More mixed messages: word from collectiondx is that Toynami is just 'gauging interest' in the beta. They mentioned a possible price of 150. Looks like more waiting-and-seeing for us. TOYNAMI: I'M INTERESTED ! I guess they don't frequent this board (Hell, even people on the RT.com board have been clamoring for this thing for YEARS). Either that, or they just have me on their "Ignore" list! Edited February 16, 2007 by Mog
Fly4victory Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 Still nothing on the Toynami website about any of the products from the toy fair. They really need to work on marketing or at least update their website.
1st Border Red Devil Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) n/m Edited February 26, 2007 by 1st Border Red Devil
Ghadrack Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 Looks like someone should not have foole around so long, brought their product to market and made their money. Thanks to all th delays, say hello to market competition and probably pwnage.
Fort Max Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 Someone should photoshop a headstone or something.
jenius Posted February 26, 2007 Posted February 26, 2007 Am I the only one hoping Toynami will be the first person to buy a CMs Tread and then turn around and improve upon it and then release their own Tread? I would be THRILLED to own two different Treads. Pipedream? Yeah, probably.
BoBe-Patt Posted February 27, 2007 Posted February 27, 2007 at this point I don't care who brings one out first or last. Just as long as they make one to release damn it!
Jasonc Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 (edited) And out of the rubble, I revive this semi-old thread. I picked up this article today and thought it was quite interesting. Apparently, the lackeys at HG are now making announcements of the official Beta release, of course with no dates given on it. So, does that mean early next year, or 22 years like what they did with their part 2? http://sdf5x.blogspot.com/ Craptastic, I hope it is display worthy. Edited June 6, 2007 by Jasonc
myk Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 They've been officially releasing that thing for quite a few years now. I'll believe it when I see it. Then again, most of us have moved on and don't care anymore, so whatever...
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 So Aoshima took over the design of the Beta. That sounds promising. Toynami proved they just can't do it. Maybe we even get a convincing linkup feature.
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 I didn't buy an alpha, so I think I might be more likely to get the cms. The new brightly colored alpha looks tempting though. I wonder if robotech.com will sell those as mospeada toys on the site?
jenius Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 So Aoshima took over the design of the Beta. That sounds promising. Toynami proved they just can't do it. Maybe we even get a convincing linkup feature. I think you're reading too much into this. I don't think Aoshima "took over" anything but is rather collaborating with Toynami and potentially assisting in the actual production. The Beta prototype is still Toynami's product so Toynami gets the design credit (or discredit if the thing sucks). I wonder if robotech.com will sell those as mospeada toys on the site? While certainly possible, I kind of doubt they'll go that route. It might encourage would-be Toynami consumers on future product to hold off in the hopes of an Aoshima variation (different paint scheme or something) being released later. Also, RT.com still has Toynami Alphas in stock so I'm not sure how eager they'd be to get more of such a similar product in stock. That said, if anyone thinks it'll make a buck (beyond Aoshima) then it'll probably happen.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) I think you're reading too much into this. I don't think Aoshima "took over" anything but is rather collaborating with Toynami and potentially assisting in the actual production. The Beta prototype is still Toynami's product so Toynami gets the design credit (or discredit if the thing sucks). There you are I'm not saying I believe Aoshima is doing the whole toy again. I think the final product will still have the looks of the protos we all know. The interesting thing here is that the Beta engeneering seems to be in early stages (e.g. crappy hip joint), unlike the Alpha. That might allow Aoshima to have some input in that area. At least I hope so. I'd like at least one Beta for my Scott, if it happens to be a decent toy. Edited June 7, 2007 by Lonely Soldier Boy
jenius Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 My hope is that Aoshima has more input and that you're right in your observations. This being Toynami, my expectation is a bit lower I'm sensing that Toynami has just realized that a slight repaint to match up to the Aoshima product could make this toy more profitable and more worth making. The hip joint is an interesting puzzle at the moment... man if this thing has hips with ball joints it's going to be a ton of fun (provided the feet ar nimble enough to work with them).
Mog Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Sorry jenius, but I really hope you're wrong about Toynami doing "a slight repaint to match up to the Aoshima product." The last thing I want is a color-mismatched Alpha and Beta. And I absolutely REFUSE to buy another one of these particular Alpha/Legioss just so I can have a matching Alpha/Beta combo in that bright blue metalic color. Does Toynami really want to give me yet another reason NOT to buy their products? But then again, until we get a firm and definite date/announcement, I'm taking anything I hear from Toynami and/or HG with a massive grain of salt.
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 And I absolutely REFUSE to buy another one of these particular Alpha/Legioss just so I can have a matching Alpha/Beta combo in that bright blue metalic color. "Buy 2 alphas to get a beta". Sorry couldn't resist. Old robotech.com joke
Apollo Leader Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Beta Q and A on robotech.com. If I can dig up any more dirt, I will.
jenius Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 The last thing I want is a color-mismatched Alpha and Beta. I meant to say that Aoshima will sell the slightly differently colored "Tread" version but Toynami will sell the standard Beta in the same colors as the existing alpha. If you wanted to make a mismatched Alpha/Tread I'm sure you could but I don't think anyone is going to have to worry about that accidentally happening or not having a choice to avoid it. More variations = more easy money. For example, I'll probably have all of the Aoshima Legioss/Treads to go with all my Toynami Alpha/Betas. Sweet
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