GrimlockCW Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Stuff flying through it and shooting stuff up the insides isn't exactly good either, though. And low-power or not, a shield can be overloaded. 417806[/snapback] true, but a lower setting would take longer to overload than a higher, though give less protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Stuff flying through it and shooting stuff up the insides isn't exactly good either, though. And low-power or not, a shield can be overloaded. 417806[/snapback] true, but a lower setting would take longer to overload than a higher, though give less protection. 418077[/snapback] That's a shaky assumption. Remember, the shield overload is because it's absorbed more energy than it can contain. I'd expect a low-power shield to overload EASIER since it has weaker confinement forces to start with. On the upside, it doesn't damage everyone around you as badly when it DOES blow, since it's holding less energy to release. On the downside, City 7 is instantaneoulsy stripped of all atmosphere when it blows, regardless of strength. I've also got serious doubts that the barrier system allows variable permeability, regardless of power level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torii Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 I just assumed that the Varauta peeps just got in through some sort of maintenance airlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimlockCW Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Stuff flying through it and shooting stuff up the insides isn't exactly good either, though. And low-power or not, a shield can be overloaded. 417806[/snapback] true, but a lower setting would take longer to overload than a higher, though give less protection. 418077[/snapback] That's a shaky assumption. Remember, the shield overload is because it's absorbed more energy than it can contain. I'd expect a low-power shield to overload EASIER since it has weaker confinement forces to start with. On the upside, it doesn't damage everyone around you as badly when it DOES blow, since it's holding less energy to release. On the downside, City 7 is instantaneoulsy stripped of all atmosphere when it blows, regardless of strength. I've also got serious doubts that the barrier system allows variable permeability, regardless of power level. 418184[/snapback] whelp i'm beat... NEXT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 It isn't... its solid. You see it best when Basara is sitting on it during planet lux playing his guitar. it even sounds solid when he walks on it. Or when Gigil infiltrates flying past Diamond squad he attacks it and it explodes. Pretty conclusive its some sort of tranparent material 417816[/snapback] Except it happened again in the same episode... Gigil captures Basara, they fly off in the hands of an Elgerzorine, and before Emerald Force shoots them down, he shoves Basara off right above the forest bubble of City 7. Next shot has Basara falling through the branches. Perhaps the smaller domes are barriers, or maybe they're retractable for settling on a planet. I dunno, I give up on that aspect. I'll just put a few more strings on my disbelief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 They do definately let in natural air when on a planet, which is what leads me to believe their some kind of energy barrier that can be shut off, as opposed to retracted, but here's something we can all agree on. PIN-POINT BARRIER PUNCH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 The Results of that M7 Poll Yes: Macross 7 is so great that it moves me. [ 3 ] [7.14%] Yes: I Liked Macross 7. [ 23 ] [54.76%] Neutral: Some of it was okay and some of it wasn't. [ 8 ] [19.05%] No: I didn't like Macross. [ 3 ] [7.14%] No: Macross 7 sucks ass like nothing else can. [ 5 ] [11.90%] 61.9% Liked it. 19.04% Disliked it and 19.05% were neutral. Of a sampling of 42 the majority actually liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyhauser Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 It isn't... its solid. You see it best when Basara is sitting on it during planet lux playing his guitar. it even sounds solid when he walks on it. Or when Gigil infiltrates flying past Diamond squad he attacks it and it explodes. Pretty conclusive its some sort of tranparent material 417816[/snapback] Except it happened again in the same episode... Gigil captures Basara, they fly off in the hands of an Elgerzorine, and before Emerald Force shoots them down, he shoves Basara off right above the forest bubble of City 7. Next shot has Basara falling through the branches. Perhaps the smaller domes are barriers, or maybe they're retractable for settling on a planet. I dunno, I give up on that aspect. I'll just put a few more strings on my disbelief. 419246[/snapback] If I remember correctly, wasn't it shown that there were open hatches at the time? I'm pretty sure they did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimlockCW Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 If I remember correctly, wasn't it shown that there were open hatches at the time? I'm pretty sure they did... 419369[/snapback] it mentions the hatches being able to open, but it previously had shown Basara sitting on the dome of City 7. so it kinda makes you wonder, + why would you want to expose the agricultural sections to an alien enviroment? i could potentialy kill all the plants, or worse, even if the atmosphere was similar to earths, it doesn't mean the plant life and spores of such are. (makes ya wonder a bit more don't it? about them being on an alien world, and walking about without a care in the world before running extensive tests on the plant life/air/atmosphere/and so on ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 (makes ya wonder a bit more don't it? about them being on an alien world, and walking about without a care in the world before running extensive tests on the plant life/air/atmosphere/and so on  ) More "Anime Magic"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsain Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 If I remember correctly, wasn't it shown that there were open hatches at the time? I'm pretty sure they did... 419369[/snapback] it mentions the hatches being able to open, but it previously had shown Basara sitting on the dome of City 7. so it kinda makes you wonder, + why would you want to expose the agricultural sections to an alien enviroment? i could potentialy kill all the plants, or worse, even if the atmosphere was similar to earths, it doesn't mean the plant life and spores of such are. (makes ya wonder a bit more don't it? about them being on an alien world, and walking about without a care in the world before running extensive tests on the plant life/air/atmosphere/and so on ) 419404[/snapback] Isn't that SSOP? (Standard SciFi Operating Procedure) The only time I've seen people walking around an earth-like planet in environment suits was in Serenity. Even then, they took them off after everything was determined to be normal - of course in that case, Miranda (the planet) was terraformed, so it WOULD be ok. In M7, I just assume that the Macross 5 already ran all those extensive tests before they decided to set down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azrael Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 In M7, I just assume that the Macross 5 already ran all those extensive tests before they decided to set down. 419438[/snapback] That's the most likely case. The M5 fleet probably won't have broadcasted that they found a suitable planet to colonize if they didn't send in a survey party before hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyhauser Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 If I remember correctly, wasn't it shown that there were open hatches at the time? I'm pretty sure they did... 419369[/snapback] it mentions the hatches being able to open, but it previously had shown Basara sitting on the dome of City 7. 419404[/snapback] Well I'm sure that they wouldn't open all the hatches, just some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 The Results of that M7 PollYes: Macross 7 is so great that it moves me. [ 3 ] [7.14%] Yes: I Liked Macross 7. [ 23 ] [54.76%] Neutral: Some of it was okay and some of it wasn't. [ 8 ] [19.05%] No: I didn't like Macross. [ 3 ] [7.14%] No: Macross 7 sucks ass like nothing else can. [ 5 ] [11.90%] 61.9% Liked it. 19.04% Disliked it and 19.05% were neutral. Of a sampling of 42 the majority actually liked it. 419368[/snapback] I'd have chosen to go neutral. MAYBE liked it... if there was a neutral/like I'd have checked that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimlockCW Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 i liked it, even if it was a bit quarky in its story, Mylene was still kewl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Milia kicked AZZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 If I remember correctly, wasn't it shown that there were open hatches at the time? I'm pretty sure they did... 419369[/snapback] it mentions the hatches being able to open, but it previously had shown Basara sitting on the dome of City 7. so it kinda makes you wonder, + why would you want to expose the agricultural sections to an alien enviroment? i could potentialy kill all the plants, or worse, even if the atmosphere was similar to earths, it doesn't mean the plant life and spores of such are. (makes ya wonder a bit more don't it? about them being on an alien world, and walking about without a care in the world before running extensive tests on the plant life/air/atmosphere/and so on ) 419404[/snapback] Isn't that SSOP? (Standard SciFi Operating Procedure) The only time I've seen people walking around an earth-like planet in environment suits was in Serenity. Even then, they took them off after everything was determined to be normal - of course in that case, Miranda (the planet) was terraformed, so it WOULD be ok. In M7, I just assume that the Macross 5 already ran all those extensive tests before they decided to set down. 419438[/snapback] They used suits in an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise. ... But it was backwards. They confirmed the existence of disease-causing organisms and THEN they started using suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimlockCW Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 They used suits in an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise. ... But it was backwards. They confirmed the existence of disease-causing organisms and THEN they started using suits. 419815[/snapback] Enterprise series was a hack, it was to PREquel the original series yet they used higher grade equipment 90% of the time! gah sry, i just didn't like the concept.. wasn't it Gene's son who wrote that anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 They used suits in an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise. ... But it was backwards. They confirmed the existence of disease-causing organisms and THEN they started using suits. 419815[/snapback] Enterprise series was a hack, it was to PREquel the original series yet they used higher grade equipment 90% of the time! gah sry, i just didn't like the concept.. wasn't it Gene's son who wrote that anyways? 419817[/snapback] I don't think any Rodenberrys were involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimlockCW Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 I don't think any Rodenberrys were involved. 419836[/snapback] thats what i wanted to hear! Gene once stated anything he did not personaly put into the shows/movies is NOT canon so i can officialy rub this disgrace off! WOOT! i know his son had something to do with it, i just couldn't remember if he wrote it or just produced it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 get back on M7 track... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimlockCW Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 get back on M7 track... 419858[/snapback] and still no help there.... okay.. lemme thinks.... ummm... i'm out... gimme one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXO Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 get back on M7 track... 419858[/snapback] and still no help there.... okay.. lemme thinks.... ummm... i'm out... gimme one! 419861[/snapback] Grimlock, if you have a problem with the thread then dont post on it. If you have a problem with my modding then PM me. That's the last time I'm gonna warn you. JBO stay on track. Stupid trannies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 i liked it, even if it was a bit quarky in its story, Mylene was still kewl 419791[/snapback] Milia kicked AZZ! 419808[/snapback] Max was awesome too. And thus we come to the first law of Macross: The Jeniuses rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Max did make an awesome captain, of course having a Macross Cannon trigger that was very simliar to the WMG trigger in Yamato didn't hurt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 i liked it, even if it was a bit quarky in its story, Mylene was still kewl 419791[/snapback] Milia kicked AZZ! 419808[/snapback] Max was awesome too. And thus we come to the first law of Macross: The Jeniuses rule. 419981[/snapback] I've always wondered though... who's the better pilot - Max or Roy? I'm thinking it's Max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinjo Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I've always wondered though... who's the better pilot - Max or Roy? I'm thinking it's Max. Ultimately Max became the better pilot after he gained sufficient experience. Roy was the best initially with is ability and experience, but max surpassed him after a while. The best example of this is that Max "survived" his encounter with Millia, Roy didn't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I have always been under the impression that Max is the better pilot. In his first sortie, he downs an impressive number of kills. Roy, on the other hand, doesn't appear to rack up as many kills in as short a period of time. Mind you, as squadron leader, Roy probably has to spend a lot of time looking after those under his command and keeping track of the big picture... so I guess we have to give him piloting points for that - not being killed while he is doing the management tasks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I've always wondered though... who's the better pilot - Max or Roy? I'm thinking it's Max. Ultimately Max became the better pilot after he gained sufficient experience. Roy was the best initially with is ability and experience, but max surpassed him after a while. The best example of this is that Max "survived" his encounter with Millia, Roy didn't... 420056[/snapback] only roy never fought millia.... roy was a better leader, imo. He could motivate and influence people and had a better awareness of the battle as a whole. Max is pretty much your typical anime genius/loner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Max got a hot alien chick to marry him, Roy did not. Max definately wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugimon Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Max got a hot alien chick to marry him, Roy did not. Max definately wins! 420074[/snapback] true. I concede the arguement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutsAndCasca Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Max got a hot alien chick to marry him, Roy did not. Max definately wins! 420074[/snapback] Yeah, like I said, I was thinkin' it was Max... But I gotta' give Roy points for Claudia. And Hikaru scores pretty high with Misa, in my book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Roy er...I had jungle fever. I also was in the of the UN War with 180 kills. During the Space War the documentary film crew was focusing on Hikaru and Vermillion Team. For ratings we faked my death but that's another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB0 Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 (edited) For ratings we faked my death but that's another story. 420222[/snapback] The Roy Focker Conspiracy! Tonight on Fox! Edited July 28, 2006 by JB0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimlockCW Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 i just got an idea! finally! question, the markings that Basara was writing down instead of normal musical notes... wtf was that about? i don't think Mylene ever found out, and nor did i! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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