Does U.n Spacy Mind Pilots Having Long, Dyed Hair?

[myk]

What is going on here....????

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Nothing. Let's head back to the 'Monkey forums...

[Cruel Angel's Thesis]

Wow, 4 pages and no one has looked up the laws of anime yet. Anime Laws 31 and 32 cover this.

Law 31. Law of Follicular Chroma Variability

Any color in the visible spectrum is considered a natural hair color. This color can change without warning or explanation.

And Law 32 for the hell of it

Law 32. Law of Follicular Permanence

Hair in anime is pretty much indestructable, and can resist any amount of meteorological conditions, energy emissions, physical abuse, or explosive effects and still look perfect. The only way to hurt someone's hair is the same way you deal with demons... with bladed weapons!

and the home for the laws of anime

http://www.abcb.com/laws/index.htm

Thank you this has been a message for the laws of anime, we return to this strange discussion.

Cruel Angel's Thesis

[Phalanx]

LOL...

Her hair was pink when she was a baby...FFS.

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Ohh, OK. I didn't know that at first. I just assumed that she dyed it because she wasn't fond of her natural teal hair. Maybe a slight genetic defect perhaps?

But going back on topic, I don't think the U.N Spacy would allow human pilots to have their hair dyed and long but I think it's OK for the U.N Spacy superior officers to do so, since they are in charge. I wanted to use a real world example of this to support my reasoning but can't since USAF or any other AF in the world has this policy.The only formidable example I can use to back this up would be Saki Vashtar from AREA 88. He has long black hair and he can keep his hair long because he's the head honcho that runs the base, he can do whatever he wants opposed to the characters Shin, Mickey, and Greg, having their hair at an average height.

[Sumdumgai]

Macross = 80s anime.

80s anime = people with all sorts of naturally colored hair.

Macross = Max w/blue hair

Saint Seiya = Shun w/green hair (manga Shun w/brown), Ikki w/dark blue hair (manga w/black I think), Athena w/purple hair (manga w/brown), Shaina w/green hair (manga w/black), Aries Mu w/pink (manga w/blond), Cancer Deathmask w/blue (manga w/blond I think), Gemini Saga and Kanon w/blue (manga w/blond), Scorpio Milo w/blue (manga w/blond), Aquarius Camus w/light blue (manga w/red), Pisces Aphrodite w/light blue (manga w/blond).

Ranma 1/2 = Shampoo w/purple hair

Bubblegum Crisis = Sylia w/dark blue hair, Nene w/reddish pink hair

And these are series listing humans. The Japanese love to put anime characters with colored hair. Even if the manga series some of them were based on had characters with a range of natural human colored hair.

[JB0]

LOL...

Her hair was pink when she was a baby...FFS.

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Ohh, OK. I didn't know that at first. I just assumed that she dyed it because she wasn't fond of her natural teal hair. Maybe a slight genetic defect perhaps?

Or maybe your theory has more holes than a collander full of swiss cheese being shot up by a machine gun?

But going back on topic, I don't think the U.N Spacy would allow human pilots to have their hair dyed and long but I think it's OK for the U.N Spacy superior officers to do so, since they are in charge.

Translation: Focker's hair was okay, but Max and Hikaru had to cut it all off.

[1/1 LowViz Lurker]

Even if they were born with it doesn't destroy my theory that un spacy were using alien dna to make the ultimate soldier Metal Gear Solid/Kira Yamato style.

Max is an alien. His children have mixed alien dna so its ok for mylene to have the pinkish hair. (like how some mixed race couples can have a baby with hair that doesn't even match the color of the parents because the gene to get the rare color was from a generation above.)

End of story. If they just had a flashback of max when he was a baby it would explain everything. You guys can accept floating rocks, giant robots, people with super powers etc but not my idea? sheesh Him being an alien also explains his attraction to milia. (the pc planned it all, hoping humans would unlock the mystery to it all and make super humans - a soldier 1 level above the zentradi)

/Joke. (of course this is stupid topic, but we are bored until a new macross ova or something comes out )

Edited May 9, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker

[Phalanx]

Even if they were born with it doesn't destroy my theory that un spacy were using alien dna to make the ultimate soldier Metal Gear Solid/Kira Yamato style.

Max is an alien. His children have mixed alien dna so its ok for mylene to have the pinkish hair. (like how some mixed race couples can have a baby with hair that doesn't even match the color of the parents because the gene to get the rare color was from a generation above)

End of story. If they just had a flashback of max when he was a baby it would explain everything. You guys can accept floating rocks, giant robots, people with super powers etc but not my idea? sheesh

/Joke.  (of course this is stupid topic, but we are bored until a new macross ova or something comes out )

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Don't get us all wrong and no disrespect to you LV Lurker, I honestly find your theory interesting and unlikely expected, but since you don't have more information to support your theory, no body doesn't buy into it. Besides, Max couldn't be an alien because he was born in 1990; 9 years before the ASS-1 crashed on Earth. Therefore, humans couldn't use the alien technology or the cloning chambers in general to spawn a super pilot with superior combat skills since it wasn't around in the early 90's. Unless you think that they injected him with some hormones and a serum that boosted his air combat performance 10 fold and also gave him blue hair like a Zentraedi while he was 16-18 years old. But then again, we all know that Max's performance was mainly due to the fact that he took his training seriously and learned various techniques from his instructors prior to the time he became a pilot, not because of some alien DNA that was administered to him because if he did, he would have revealed his secret in M7 by now.

[JB0]

Don't get us all wrong and no disrespect to you LV Lurker, I honestly find your theory interesting and unlikely expected, but since you don't have more information to support your theory, no body doesn't buy into it.

Hypocrite.

Besides, Max couldn't be an alien because he was born in 1990; 9 years before the ASS-1  crashed on Earth. Therefore, humans couldn't use the alien technology or the cloning chambers in general to spawn a super pilot with superior combat skills since it wasn't around in the early 90's.

There were ruins in places such as the island MacZero took place on.

And we know from Zero that there was research going on into their unique abilities before the ASS crashed.

Unless you think that they injected him with some hormones and a serum that boosted his air combat performance 10 fold and also gave him blue hair like a Zentraedi while he was 16-18 years old.

Captain America Anime-style!

But then again, we all know that Max's performance was mainly due to the fact that he took his training seriously and learned various techniques from his instructors prior to the time he became a pilot, not because of some alien DNA that was administered to him because if he did, he would have revealed his secret in M7 by now.

Nonsense. His skill came from his many years spent in video arcades. And his genetically-engineered reflexes.

To come forward about it, he'd have to know about it. It was done in SECRET. You don't tell children big secrets(remember, he's only 16 when introduced in the show).

And when all hell broke loose after the Macross' launch, everyone that knew was killed.

[Lightning]

I thought Max was actually 14....oh well.

[Sumdumgai]

Macross Gear.

Max is the next generation Snake. Man, wait until you meet the next generation Big Boss!

Good points LowViz (oh how I love that toy), they could have cloned Max or did genetic engineering on him as a black project to create super pilots using samples from islanders like Mao from other older discoveries. Yeah they pulled a Khan from Star Trek, Max is a super human with superior intelligence, hand-eye coordination, visual-spatial abilities, reaction time, and able to piss off girls and make them fall in love with him. Little do you all know, he doesn't need glasses. They're his limiter to make it so he's not too too powerful and doesnt turn into the next generation Chuck Norris in pilot form! His blue hair is a side effect of the genetic engineering, since the researchers watched too much anime.

[Phalanx]

Nonsense. His skill came from his many years spent in video arcades. And his genetically-engineered reflexes.

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Actually JB0, it did come from his past training as well because if you rememeber that one scene in Sweet Sixteen, Hikaru was fascinated by Max's fighting skills because when he had asked him where did he learn to fight like that, Max told him that he had learned those techniques while he was in flight school. Unless he used that excuse to cover up for the supposed real reason why he's so good at dogfighting.

To come forward about it, he'd have to know about it. It was done in SECRET. You don't tell children big secrets(remember, he's only 16 when introduced in the show).

And when all hell broke loose after the Macross' launch, everyone that knew was killed.

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So are you saying that Max had no idea that he was injected with alien DNA that gave him superior dogfighting skills or what by secretly telling him that he was receiving a booster shot when it turns out to be the DNA. I also thought he was 19 years old like Hikaru.

[1/1 LowViz Lurker]

Come to think of it, it was never explained how ivanov was alive when everyone thought he was dead. roy was supposed to be his student. Maybe the anti un and un spacy were engaged in some secret experimentation to clone the best soldiers?

1. vf1 one of the major secrets (public ws kept in the dark about transforming robots as well as being lied to about the existence of aliens)

2. floating rocks (why was the government looking for AFOS unless they knew something was living; or once lived, on earth that was not from earth? The ASS1 gave us knowledge about where to look but how come an old man knows so much about the islanders? We must have known about aliens before ASS1 crashing but just didn't know where to look without the special cross dimensional radar technology)

3. grand cannon (nobody knew about this including misa, yet another secret. So that's where all the money goes to..)

4. ??? max is an alien. Another secret that not even he knows. Max is the "co-ordinator" for the macross universe. Like kira yamato humans wanted to eventually create super humans to eventually lead the world using thier talents to further mankind's ambitions of a utopion society. (all kinds of underground cloning and genetic engineering experiments were done to evolve humans artificially)

Max did train, but so too did kakizaki. Maybe the glasses are just a disguise to hide his face. Doesn't make sense that he would need them with his abilities. (beating milia with ease)

Edited May 9, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker

[JB0]

Nonsense. His skill came from his many years spent in video arcades. And his genetically-engineered reflexes.

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Actually JB0, it did come from his past training as well because if you rememeber that one scene in Sweet Sixteen, Hikaru was fascinated by Max's fighting skills because when he had asked him where did he learn to fight like that, Max told him that he had learned those techniques while he was in flight school. Unless he used that excuse to cover up for the supposed real reason why he's so good at dogfighting.

Note that Kakizaki went to the exact same training facility and had a similar "skill ranking." But wasn't even in Max's league.

Hikaru went through the same training too, minus basic aviation. But including combat aviation and VF-1-specific training, including GERWALK and Battroid modes. And augmented that training with signifigant real-world combat as a part of Skull Squadron.

And HE didn't know those moves.

Max may HAVE picked that up in training, but it certainly wasn't on the lesson plan.

More likely he observed an experienced combat pilot doing it during practice or a demonstration, and worked it out from there.

It was still learned in training, but not as an actual part of the curriculum. Hence Max isn't a liar, and there's a good reason Hikaru and Kakizaki can't do the same thing.

To come forward about it, he'd have to know about it. It was done in SECRET. You don't tell children big secrets(remember, he's only 16 when introduced in the show).

And when all hell broke loose after the Macross' launch, everyone that knew was killed.

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So are you saying that Max had no idea that he was injected with alien DNA that gave him superior dogfighting skills or what by secretly telling him that he was receiving a booster shot when it turns out to be the DNA. I also thought he was 19 years old like Hikaru.

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I'm saying genetic engineering is best done in childhood. The most logical point to engineer a being is actually at conception, when there's only a handful of cells to alter, and changes will cascade out from there.

Hence, Max was superior from his first day as an embryo.

You don't inject DNA anyways. You can inject a customized retrovirus that resequences the existing DNA, but that's not the same thing.

And Hikaru wasn't 19. 16 at first appearnace in the TV show.

Max and Hikaru are both 18 in DYRL, but the TV series is officially the "real" version of events.

http://macross.anime.net/characters/index.html

[Sumdumgai]

Judging from the amount of hair that Hikaru and Roy have poofing off their heads, I'd say "no" UN Spacy doesnt have a problem with long hair.

[1/1 LowViz Lurker]

What about the 70s porno moustache on the pilots in the original MS gundam?

I think that is kinda cool (in a retro chic way - although I don't have them, I still think sideburns are cool) now when I watch it. I think that is why Roy was cooler with long hair than when he had short hair. It's not because I think it is fashionable for today but it is like part of the character itself and to change it, means he is no longer roy anymore if that makes any sense.

Roy should keep the sideburns and long hair and this should be canon forever.