eugimon Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Hey, I didn't know you made it to MW-Con this year!!! there's just one fan-convention, one convention with many faces. Quote
Uxi Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 Hey, I didn't know you made it to MW-Con this year!!! Are trekkies that old? I figured there would be more (or at least as many) of the 20-30 somethings who liked TNG or DS9 or voyager and maybe a smallish enterprise clique? None of them I would imagine care as much? Except for making their stuff look primitive. Quote
Alex Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Ok seriosuly, do you enjoy talking out of your rectum? Any starship would be constructed in space not on planet, no matter the stresses involved. Look at even modern day fighter manufacturing, the certain components of the eurofighter can only be built at certain times of the month when the moons gravitation pull is just right, otherwise they won't meet spec. A starship that travels throughout the galaxy would have even tighter tolerances, and there is no way that you could meet those tolerances on a planet as gravitationally inconsistent as the Earth. The only place such things could be accomplished is in space. And that is only one of many, many, many examples. Wow. That was a little much. Try to be more polite. Is that really true about the Euro-fighter? Those are SOME precision components. I was more talking about the hull of the ship rather than "components". Unless you mean the main body of the ship. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 The Eurofighter really is THAT picky. But that's not that new---back in the 60's, the 727 had such close fitting parts that when the main 4 fittings for the wing-to-body join was done for each plane, they had to stop all other work/people/machines in the factory, adjust the temperature of the air, tools, and parts all to within .1 degrees, and the guy installing them needed to wear rubber soles to absorb vibrations... (side-comment----the automotive industry has no idea how close "close-tolerance" really is) Quote
Alex Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 The Eurofighter really is THAT picky. But that's not that new---back in the 60's, the 727 had such close fitting parts that when the main 4 fittings for the wing-to-body join was done for each plane, they had to stop all other work/people/machines in the factory, adjust the temperature of the air, tools, and parts all to within .1 degrees, and the guy installing them needed to wear rubber soles to absorb vibrations... (side-comment----the automotive industry has no idea how close "close-tolerance" really is) Had no idea that things had to be so exacting. Assuming that in the 23rd century they have the means to get something that huge off the ground (thus making either space or ground construction an option) would building something like the hull of a spaceship be better suited to space or Earth? Quote
eugimon Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Had no idea that things had to be so exacting. Assuming that in the 23rd century they have the means to get something that huge off the ground (thus making either space or ground construction an option) would building something like the hull of a spaceship be better suited to space or Earth? it's always easier to build something with hands than in giant space gloves. Quote
Xeros Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 I don't remember were I read it, but an explanation for the Enterprise being constructed in earth was something about calibration on a gravitational enviroment for warp travel Quote
Einherjar Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Just watched the trailer... sweet! Don't see how people can be so up in arms, and VERY nitpicky too, about the movie. Quote
kaiotheforsaken Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Ok seriosuly, do you enjoy talking out of your rectum? Any starship would be constructed in space not on planet, no matter the stresses involved. Look at even modern day fighter manufacturing, the certain components of the eurofighter can only be built at certain times of the month when the moons gravitation pull is just right, otherwise they won't meet spec. A starship that travels throughout the galaxy would have even tighter tolerances, and there is no way that you could meet those tolerances on a planet as gravitationally inconsistent as the Earth. The only place such things could be accomplished is in space. And that is only one of many, many, many examples. I think you need to chill a little bit dude. Stating fact about how an imaginary ship might be constructed while managing to be come off as rude is pretty impressive, but still. Anyways, on to my thoughts. I still don't think where they built the ship, or how the bridge looks, or if Ohura's hair isn't right can be defined as "raping" of childhood memories. The movie is either Trek, or it isn't, and you wont really know until you see it. Also, as I've said before, much of what makes Trek well...Trek is ideas and philosophies, not the font Enterprise is scrawled in across the saucer. Quote
the white drew carey Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 not the font Enterprise is scrawled in across the saucer. Although Comic Sans would be pretty kick ass. Quote
Mr March Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Not yet AFAIK, Trekkies civil war will be started on the web, and spread on to conventions....I think I better book the Trekkies convention next year, just for watching the fist fight Shame. Sometimes reading those sites can be incredibly entertaining A duel at a convention? Hehehe, I'm reminded of Kirk vs. Trelane Quote
Chronocidal Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 not the font Enterprise is scrawled in across the saucer Oddly enough, that's one of the things they haven't even touched. Quote
taksraven Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 and maybe a smallish enterprise clique? That would have to be the one of the saddest groups of people on the planet, nearly as bad as die hard "Lost in Space" fans. Taksraven Quote
taksraven Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 Speaking of talking out of one's rectum, has there been any hate websites pop up over this new film? I mean Trekkies used to be the benchmark for obsessive, nitpicking fandom. I thought that they still were the benchmark. Who has taken their place? Is there any websites like pineisnotkirk.com or jtreksucks.com or anything like that? There has to be some ridiculously critical website about the new Star Trek film, harshly criticizing J.J. Abrams and Co for some minor transgression that no one cares about. I'm in the mood for a good laugh If there are no such websites yet, I would be astounded. Maybe its because a lot of the real old fashioned die hard trek fans are too old to understand the internets or can't get out of their bed in the nursing home. Taksraven Quote
Mr March Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Good question. I'm not sure. Trek has been dead for years and the remains of the fan base is now much older. So I would think they aren't the nitpicking, loudmouthed freaks they used to be. If I had to guess, I suppose Bond fandom would likely be up there as one of the top freak fandoms. One of the most embarrassing websites any fandom has every produced, danielcraigisnotbond.com, is still running after all. Evangelion fandom was once so embarrassing it was an insult to humanity, but I guess they all got old and crotchety too How about Macross fandom? Quote
Xeros Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 I thought that they still were the benchmark. Who has taken their place? If there are no such websites yet, I would be astounded. Maybe its because a lot of the real old fashioned die hard trek fans are too old to understand the internets or can't get out of their bed in the nursing home. Taksraven Well, in the local websites here the desscusion is how someone can be consider a geek or a pseudo tech fan if didn't know Star Trek. Quote
buddhafabio Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 well in the st book, flag full of stars, they refitted the saucer section on earth and had it fly up to the rest of the hull to be reattached Quote
anime52k8 Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 How about Macross fandom? nitpicking, loudmouthed freaks only when it comes to toys. Quote
eugimon Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 nitpicking, loudmouthed freaks only when it comes to toys. hah, go read over the debates regarding quality versus style as it relates to the animation in macross frontier. We're nitpicking, loudmouthed freaks over everything. Quote
Mr March Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Every fandom nitpicks and argues loudly. But it appears some just get more press than others. Perhaps that's a point in favour of Macross fandom. MW get's badmouthed, but that's about it. Besides, I'd rather build the Macross Mecha Manual than altoisnotminmay.com Quote
Scream Man Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Alto isnt Minmey?? For me the debate was always across star wars forums about Lucas rapinbg their childhoods or some crap. I dont understand why people can actively dislike each other over different opinions. Quote
taksraven Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 I dont understand why people can actively dislike each other over different opinions. Partially ignorance, partially human nature, but a lot of people who are 'true' friends still have differences over a lot of issues but choose to see past them. I think that there are people here with relationships like that. Taksraven Quote
Mr March Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 Mostly it's the internet. There are no social/interpersonal consequences when interacting online. You can say the most hateful, insulting things to other people and act in a way you never would in real life without any of the consequences. Even something as simple as a difference of opinion over an animated television show can be blown up into the online equivalent of a UFC match Quote
taksraven Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 Mostly it's the internet. There are no social/interpersonal consequences when interacting online. You can say the most hateful, insulting things to other people and act in a way you never would in real life without any of the consequences. There have been a few noted instances where online disputes have broken out into real world violence or abuse, but generally you are right on that one. If anybody wants a really funny read they should look at my Youtube account that is linked in my sig and check out the My Chemical Romance parody video I posted and the abuse I have received for posting it. Even something as simple as a difference of opinion over an animated television show can be blown up into the online equivalent of a UFC match True. Taksraven Quote
lord_breetai Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 Speaking of talking out of one's rectum, has there been any hate websites pop up over this new film? I mean Trekkies used to be the benchmark for obsessive, nitpicking fandom. Is there any websites like pineisnotkirk.com or jtreksucks.com or anything like that? There has to be some ridiculously critical website about the new Star Trek film, harshly criticizing J.J. Abrams and Co for some minor transgression that no one cares about. I'm in the mood for a good laugh this is pretty old, but is it good enough for you? http://shatneriskirk.ytmnd.com/ Quote
Mr March Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 this is pretty old, but is it good enough for you? http://shatneriskirk.ytmnd.com/ HAHAHAHAAH! :lol: I must have missed that one. That is brilliant! The music and the ending is perfect. That was a great laugh. Thanks lb Quote
lord_breetai Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 HAHAHAHAAH! :lol: I must have missed that one. That is brilliant! The music and the ending is perfect. That was a great laugh. Thanks lb Looses some of the punch since Damon didn't actualy ge the role, but still funny! Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! that is pure gold! Quote
transfan52 Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) wrong topic... Edited November 25, 2008 by transfan52 Quote
taksraven Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 this is pretty old, but is it good enough for you? http://shatneriskirk.ytmnd.com/ Cute. Taksraven Quote
Sumdumgai Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 The tweaked web exclusive trailer: on Aint It Cool News Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Besides, I'd rather build the Macross Mecha Manual than altoisnotminmay.com damn, you made me look. Quote
UN Spacy Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 There's an alternate trailer....you guys are gonna like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puXPozd-kuc Quote
Roger Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 I still don't like it. Can I have my money back? Quote
Akilae Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 Ugh... a supposed reboot and they still have to revert to time travel... Quote
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