Fit For Natalie Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Yeah, according to Amenbo he supervised the design. Judging from the control art we've seen, this will hopefully be alot better than his efforts on THS G1 Convoy. Vague info on MP Starscream
F360° Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Is this Rumble from Walmart a real offical alternator rumble? because it looks kinda like one of those Car Robots to me, a really good one. you know the ones that look similar to alternator? 393568[/snapback] Yes its a real official Alternator. Hence it being called 'TF Alternators' in the listing. 393581[/snapback] being called "TF Alternators" in the listing of WalMart is one of the main reasons why I'm asking. since listing can be mislabel,, walmart screws up listing all the time. Os their any other proft that this is the real deal? like offical websites?, other pics from more reliable source?
Fit For Natalie Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) No, this is the first official photo. Walmart uses Hasbro's official stock photos (usually the same photos destined for packaging) for their website. 1. Design asthetic is that of a Hasbro-Takara designed Transformer. Happy Well's Road Bots, while they steal the basic Alt designs or outright steal the toolings and rework them (in the case of their Ford GT bootleg), have robot mode style and detailing that is more 'generic robot'. 2. Decepticon symbol - bootleg toys usually avoid having the actual Autobot and Decepticon symbols, since those symbols are trademarked. 3. Rumble homage - no point in a bootleg having a homage to something from a brand name that they are somewhat distancing themselves from to avoid lawsuit. Several times now Walmart have been among the first to put up new Hasbro stock photos. Repaint Vector Prime uncovered on the same day at Walmart was our first glimpse of the repaint. Edited April 23, 2006 by Fit For Natalie
Twoducks Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Yeah, according to Amenbo he supervised the design. Judging from the control art we've seen, this will hopefully be alot better than his efforts on THS G1 Convoy.Vague info on MP Starscream 393594[/snapback] Nice! If the tiny THS-02 can strike so many poses and transform imagine what Kawamori can do with 30 cm of room to work with. Hope he supervises a lot. That listing says 9800 Yen for MP SC, was MP Convoy priced similarly?
ComicKaze Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 Looks like the MP-03 Starscream will have Shoji Kawamori involved in the design... intriguing to say the least. 393584[/snapback] Valkryie's have new competition!
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 GOD I HOPE KAWAMORI DECIDES HE WANTS TO MAKE AN F-14 SKY/JETFIRE AS WELL...HOLY HELL WHAT A GOOD MACROSS/TF HOMAGE THAT WOULD BE!! ANd I think this will be 1/48 scale judging by the 30cm size given out
ComicKaze Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 GOD I HOPE KAWAMORI DECIDES HE WANTS TO MAKE AN F-14 SKY/JETFIRE AS WELL...HOLY HELL WHAT A GOOD MACROSS/TF HOMAGE THAT WOULD BE!!ANd I think this will be 1/48 scale judging by the 30cm size given out 393654[/snapback] ? That would be a totally new concept vehicle that wouldn't fit in the Masterpiece line as it wouldn't be an accurate homage to an original character. Please, no Jetfire, we have our Valks for that. Skyfire though, I will take in a heartbeat.
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 GOD I HOPE KAWAMORI DECIDES HE WANTS TO MAKE AN F-14 SKY/JETFIRE AS WELL...HOLY HELL WHAT A GOOD MACROSS/TF HOMAGE THAT WOULD BE!!ANd I think this will be 1/48 scale judging by the 30cm size given out 393654[/snapback] ? That would be a totally new concept vehicle that wouldn't fit in the Masterpiece line as it wouldn't be an accurate homage to an original character. Please, no Jetfire, we have our Valks for that. Skyfire though, I will take in a heartbeat. 393660[/snapback] Thing is we are already getting a skyfire in the neo G1 line and in the titanium line. I would LOVE to have an alternator or masterpiece F-14 somehow.
Kin Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I CAN'T HOLD UP MUCH LONGER! GIMME GIMME!!
promethuem5 Posted April 23, 2006 Posted April 23, 2006 I am soooo excited that Kawamori, the best variable fighter designer ever!
wolfx Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 HOLY KAWAMORI!!! THAT ROX!! It also has the air-brake hydraulics that the 1/48s don't. I always wished they had that in the 1/48s. Heck even the turbine compartment opens.
Kin Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 I'll try to implement that in my papermodel... ghehehehe...
Veritas Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 Man i can't believe how good this thing is looking. If the blueprints are any indication of what we can expect to see upon release this toy will more than pay for itself IMO.
David Hingtgen Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 I'm 99% certain the engine nacelles open to allow you to switch between TV/Toy-accurate robot-mode-foot-nozzles, and modern, real-life-accurate nozzles. It's the standard "fist-swapping" mechanism, only for engine nozzles. What you're seeing under the cover is the other style of nozzle, not an engine.
zeo-mare Posted April 24, 2006 Author Posted April 24, 2006 hopefully it turn out well, takara and shoji somewhat botched the THS-02 Convoy which also looked awesome on paper. instead we got a cool bot with a horrible transformation. maybe because this toy is bigger it will be easier for them to pull off the transformations on it and have both modes look realalistic and true to the classic character. or we can only hope chris
Twoducks Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 Looking good. Now if this thing comes with a stand like it says in Amenbo this thing will be double great. Go Kawamori magic!
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 hopefully it turn out well, takara and shoji somewhat botched the THS-02 Convoy which also looked awesome on paper. instead we got a cool bot with a horrible transformation. maybe because this toy is bigger it will be easier for them to pull off the transformations on it and have both modes look realalistic and true to the classic character.or we can only hope chris 393691[/snapback] Dude this things got a 30cm length/height. In comparison THS-02 was TINY. So I think they got a ton more room to make a true masterpiece with this one. Course I understand where you are coming from though,
Dangaioh Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 The drawing might imply, that it may use the vf11 or vf19 transformation.... things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
UN Spacy Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 Wow. Makes me wonder how long Kawamori's been working on this masterpiece. I can't wait......this will be a huge seller for TakaTomy.
KiriK Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 indeed.... this does rock.. but we need to see pics of the Robot mode as well.... dunno how accurate and poseable it'll be but that fighter mode is dayam nice.....
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 Wow. Makes me wonder how long Kawamori's been working on this masterpiece. I can't wait......this will be a huge seller for TakaTomy. 393704[/snapback] Being that its set for september release, I'm pretty sure its a while...at earliest maybe late 2004, or maybe spring 2005.
Knight26 Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 I will definitely get this it looks awesome, and hwile the ventral side isn't that accurate to the jet I know some concessions have to be made and they look great so far.
Fit For Natalie Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 To be fair though, they weren't out to make an exact scale replica of a real-world F-15, they were making a half-way between what they could get on a real F-15 and a Starscream seeker F-15.
eugimon Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 this is an aswesome year for toys... sucks for my bank account and shelf space though. Makes me wonder what a kawamori designed VF-1 would look like... maybe he can even be bothered to figure out a decent SV-51 toy next... mmmm.... mmmm...
Black Valkyrie Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 WOW so I guess the paper sheet that came with THS-2 Convoy was on purpose, 1/48s competitor. Sky/Jetfire anyone ?
F360° Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 hmm from the drawing , it's transformation looks pretty straight foward. The hands are fold like the Zeta Gundam, and the legs are standard push ups or downs. The nose of the jet flips down,, and the 2 intakes ( only the square area) flips down as the chest and to fill in the gap from the fold out hands. Oh,the weapon slides back to the arms. hmm it seems it can do gerwalk too. I just can't wait for this baby to come out,, I just know they're going to put lots of little details here and there.
Fit For Natalie Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 There will be two F-15 Starscream toys out this year at roughly the same time, then. This Masterpiece Starscream in September for Japan, and Hasbro's Classics Starscream (deluxe class) in October-ish in the US.
kensei Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) You know what would be funny? If Yamato had the guts? If they actually went and did a 1/48 VF-1S with TV FAST Packs Jetfire Paintscheme. Everything but the Autobot logo and the transformers and Jetfire name. FAST Packs that are coloured red included, with red visor. Edited April 24, 2006 by kensei
Fit For Natalie Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 Well, they could do it if they wanted to. Its a colour scheme, and I don't think you can trademark a colour scheme. Hell, Hasbro used the Max DYRL colours for their Armada Powerlinx Jetfire repaint. As long as they don't call it something like 'VF-1S Super Valkyrie Jetfire Special' (Jetfire the name is still trademarked by Hasbro and Takara) or use the Autobot symbol, I think they'd be okay.
Ed.Coli Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 More concept pics, including robot mode and facial details. I really have nothing more to say to that. Words cannot describe.
Metal_Massacre_79 Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 The line art is cool looking, but the prototype shown looks chunky and the feet are huge.
Knight26 Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 Uh MM79 those aren't prototypes but already existing toys, old releases, the new ones looks awesome, a definite purchase on my part.
Fit For Natalie Posted April 24, 2006 Posted April 24, 2006 yeah, the three Starscream toys shown in that article are Takara's Reissue Collection Starscream, Robotmasters Starscream, and World's Smallest Transformers Starscream. The actual Masterpiece Starscream toy hasn't been seen yet. We're going to be hearing that all day at non-TF boards or TF boards with less-informed members - that the line art looks great but the toys look like crap
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