Gundam Show Thread - MSG thru Witch from Mercury

[Test_Pilot_2]

Binged Requiem last night. Plenty of B-Movie cheese in the dialogue and some character designs. Lots of jank.

However, the mood every time the Gundam showed up is undeniable. I liked the Jason reference, but instead to me this Gundam wasn't horror. It has an efficiency/no lack of wasted movement in its fighting that oozed true combat machine instead of most of the other drama mama Gundams. This thing meant business and it delivered like a mission-focused soldier would.

Very different feel to me and I liked that. It was fun to watch as long you go in prepared to forgive the cheese.

[mark-1s]

My son just walked in on me watching episode 1. He asked me what old PS3 game I was playing lol

[Bolt]

On 10/24/2024 at 5:39 AM, Test_Pilot_2 said:

Binged Requiem last night. Plenty of B-Movie cheese in the dialogue and some character designs. Lots of jank.

However, the mood every time the Gundam showed up is undeniable. I liked the Jason reference, but instead to me this Gundam wasn't horror. It has an efficiency/no lack of wasted movement in its fighting that oozed true combat machine instead of most of the other drama mama Gundams. This thing meant business and it delivered like a mission-focused soldier would.

Very different feel to me and I liked that. It was fun to watch as long you go in prepared to forgive the cheese.

Ya, i liked how the Gundam was the nemesis of the show and had an almost sinister vibe going. 

 

47 minutes ago, mark-1s said:

My son just walked in on me watching episode 1. He asked me what old PS3 game I was playing lol

Lol. Yes, to me the character animation was the worst aspect. The mecha action was fun though.

[davidwhangchoi]

i thought the ending was trash.

 

Pilot is a Newtype and can't sense that ending???

[Big s]

4 hours ago, davidwhangchoi said:

i thought the ending was trash.

 

Pilot is a Newtype and can't sense that ending???

I think he totally sensed the ending. He got so confused by knowing that the Zaku pilot was gonna abandon her child and continue fighting, even though she said she didn’t want further conflict. He was just so shocked by the future stupidity of the bad writing, that he was overwhelmed and then got stabbed.

[Black Valkyrie]

 

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64923352/?ref_=hm_tpnw_tp_2

 

[no3Ljm]

6 hours ago, Black Valkyrie said:

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64923352/?ref_=hm_tpnw_tp_2

I'm going to repost your post in the Gundam Live Action Movie thread. Apparently, there's 2 live movie they're planning unless they're the same(?) One from Legendary Pictures. And one for Netflix.

[no3Ljm]

Gundam SEED Freedom prequel has been announced.

[Hikuro]

🤨 a prequel to a sequel that barely is even a couple of years after the sequel series.................huh?

[no3Ljm]

10 minutes ago, Hikuro said:

🤨 a prequel to a sequel that barely is even a couple of years after the sequel series.................huh?

Well, Bandai needs to sell unused Freedom design as kits and figures, sir. 

[Big s]

The presequel 

[Bolt]

On 10/29/2024 at 9:06 PM, davidwhangchoi said:

i thought the ending was trash.

 

Pilot is a Newtype and can't sense that ending???

If that were the case, no new types would die. Right?

[Big s]

44 minutes ago, Bolt said:

If that were the case, no new types would die. Right?

I think sneaking up on a new type that skilled would be difficult. Maybe if the battlefield was more chaotic, then it wouldn’t be as easy to sense hostility.

it’s still not the worst part of the ending 

[davidwhangchoi]

55 minutes ago, Bolt said:

If that were the case, no new types would die. Right?

but that's not the case. Amuro died. Char died, just because the show is inconsistent doesn't automatically imply Newtypes can't die.

the correct critique is the entire 6 episodes set up the newtype ability foreseeing danger.

Newtypes died in battle by superior newtype ability or sacrificial acts such as Quess saving Hathaway, but not as some random NPC

Edited November 2 by davidwhangchoi

[Seto Kaiba]

6 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

Gundam SEED Freedom prequel has been announced.

Oh boy... more lifeless and unnecessary garbage from Gundam's most overrated, least capable director.

🤮

[Bolt]

1 hour ago, Big s said:

I think sneaking up on a new type that skilled would be difficult. Maybe if the battlefield was more chaotic, then it wouldn’t be as easy to sense hostility.

it’s still not the worst part of the ending 

The Gundam pilot was clearly distracted and having a serious moment of doubt. 

 

1 hour ago, davidwhangchoi said:

but that's not the case. Amuro died. Char died, just because the show is inconsistent doesn't automatically imply Newtypes can't die.

the correct critique is the entire 6 episodes set up the newtype ability foreseeing danger.

Newtypes died in battle by superior newtype ability or sacrificial acts such as Quess saving Hathaway, but not as some random NPC

I think it's ok if a new type dies in an un explored way. The kid had some conflicting emotions, as others have. And his change of heart was surely letting his guard down.

I'm not saying the writing didn't have issues, and i do agree , the new types death wasn't the worst part of the writing. 
Nevertheless, i found the story to be entertaining and much better than many other Gundam entries. 

[Big s]

1 hour ago, Bolt said:

Nevertheless, i found the story to be entertaining and much better than many other Gundam entries. 

It was far better than Narrative 

[davidwhangchoi]

4 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Oh boy... more lifeless and unnecessary garbage from Gundam's most overrated, least capable director.

🤮

is it going to include more pre church of Yamato Shin

[Old_Nash_II]

https://animecorner.me/mobile-suit-gundam-announces-alc-encounter-new-anime-project/

 

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Old_Nash_II said:

https://animecorner.me/mobile-suit-gundam-announces-alc-encounter-new-anime-project/

 

So Char and Amuro are gonna have a dance off?

[F-ZeroOne]

If you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the nuclear-engined asteroid fortress?

[kalvasflam]

On 11/1/2024 at 6:19 PM, Seto Kaiba said:

Oh boy... more lifeless and unnecessary garbage from Gundam's most overrated, least capable director.

🤮

But you will still watch it... 😄

Besides, what if they got May'n to do the opening?

[Seto Kaiba]

1 hour ago, kalvasflam said:

But you will still watch it... 😄

As narratively unnecessary and painfully dull as the movie was, I can honestly say I feel no inclination whatsoever to watch its equally dull and unnecessary prequel.

On the scale of "better things to do with my time", watching Freedom Zero is going to fall somewhere below teaching myself to play the bluegrass banjo with my feet, catching the flu for purely recreational purposes, or rewriting the entirety of the European Union's tax code in dactylic hexameter pig Latin and publishing it as an epic poem.

 

1 hour ago, kalvasflam said:

Besides, what if they got May'n to do the opening?

A hard pass even then.

[Hikuro]

I"ve been going back to the original shows recently, this week I watched the first 3 Gundam movies, then I decided since it's been many years, to watch the Zeta trilogy. And you know what? It's terrible! The "new" animation they used mixed with the older footage, even giving it fake grain filtering, the echoey sound effects, the bad cuts and sloppy story edits, it's just absolutely terrible. I'm honestly wondering what in the world Tomino was thinking with this trilogy. 

[Big s]

40 minutes ago, Hikuro said:

I"ve been going back to the original shows recently, this week I watched the first 3 Gundam movies, then I decided since it's been many years, to watch the Zeta trilogy. And you know what? It's terrible! The "new" animation they used mixed with the older footage, even giving it fake grain filtering, the echoey sound effects, the bad cuts and sloppy story edits, it's just absolutely terrible. I'm honestly wondering what in the world Tomino was thinking with this trilogy. 

I have to agree about the zeta thing. It just doesn’t blend well

[kalvasflam]

wouldn't mind if they redid Zeta, same story line, generally same dialogue, just improved animation.  And Zeta animation for that time was pretty good.

[Hikuro]

11 hours ago, kalvasflam said:

wouldn't mind if they redid Zeta, same story line, generally same dialogue, just improved animation.  And Zeta animation for that time was pretty good.

Zetas animation was really good for the time, and to me even in comparison to todays animation still holds out really well.

but when they blended newly animated sequences inbetween, it was terrible. The zeta trilogy came out almost 20 years to late and should been done in the early 90s just like how the original trilogy was just a few years after it had aired. The newer scenes they made back then blended better, still noticeable by quality of animation, but it worked.

12 hours ago, Big s said:

I have to agree about the zeta thing. It just doesn’t blend well

they cut to much out and left things in that made no sense. Like Rosamia shows up at the tail end as a ghost, but her last appearance before then was in an ejection seat safely escaping her exploding mobile suit in part 2, then never seen again until the final battle. 

[Big s]

12 hours ago, kalvasflam said:

wouldn't mind if they redid Zeta, same story line, generally same dialogue, just improved animation.  And Zeta animation for that time was pretty good.

Honestly, I love the look of the old zeta show and really don’t think it needs any updating. The og Gundam on the other hand is a bit messy, but charming in its own way although seems a bit out of place compared to the shows that were coming up only a few years later 

[kalvasflam]

I agree on the issue of mixing old animation with new.  They could literally do a whole new animation and keep the exact same dialogue and everything about Zeta, and it would be fine.

[no3Ljm]

[Seto Kaiba]

I'm not sure what I was expecting from a teaser trailer for what is, by any rational standard of measure, a glorified filler episode prequel to the Gundam franchise's least necessary movie.

I swear, half the characters in the trailer look as bored to be there as I would be to watch it.

Gundam SEED always had a real problem with most of its character designs looking exactly the goddamn same, and it feels like the higher animation quality of the movie and this teaser make the problem feel worse somehow.  

[Big s]

2 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Gundam SEED always had a real problem with most of its character designs looking exactly the goddamn same

Definitely tough to tell the male characters from the female ones. Just look for the missing upper lip and then you know it’s supposed to be an adult lady.

finally finished the last four episodes of the first seed series on Netflix. The glitch with the voices came back and one guy just had his lips flapping with no sound. There was another odd issue, where it seemed like the voice audio was far far louder than the bgm. Had to switch back to the Japanese audio again and the music was much louder. Hopefully that’s not a problem on the next series and there’s no more audio issues.

after watching Seed, I think I liked it far less than I did my first time around. I actually hate Kira. This dude just goes around crying about how he needs to protect his friends, then bangs their fiancés. I get that he’s young, but he’s also a coordinator and should know that 💩ain’t right. Don’t make friends with this guy, he’ll either get you killed or leave you with a lifetime of emotional scars to drive a therapist into therapy. 
Athrun wasn’t as bad since at least he wasn’t putting up with his bs. When he found out Kira was going after his leftovers, he banged Kira’s sister.

[pengbuzz]

4 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

I'm not sure what I was expecting from a teaser trailer for what is, by any rational standard of measure, a glorified filler episode prequel to the Gundam franchise's least necessary movie.

I swear, half the characters in the trailer look as bored to be there as I would be to watch it.

Gundam SEED always had a real problem with most of its character designs looking exactly the goddamn same, and it feels like the higher animation quality of the movie and this teaser make the problem feel worse somehow.  

To me, the animation looked "dead"; I mean, it lacked something to it that I can't quite put my finger on. Yeah, they looked bored and all, but something important is missing.

[Big s]

20 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

To me, the animation looked "dead"; I mean, it lacked something to it that I can't quite put my finger on. Yeah, they looked bored and all, but something important is missing.

I just finished the first seed show and it kinda feels like when someone drew pictures on those computer art pads from 20 years ago. Sorta a cheap lifeless kinda of look. This trailer kinda seems in line with that appearance. A lot of anime from the early 2000’s kinda looks that way 

[azrael]

8 hours ago, Big s said:

A lot of anime from the early 2000’s kinda looks that way 

SEED came out during the period as CG and drawing tablet screens started replacing physical animation materials. This was still a time where they did it on physical materials, then scanned in. Nowhere near where it is now where there's practically no paper/cels (i.e, in reverse now; done in the computer and then printed out for reference & QC)