Gundam Show Thread - MSG thru GQuuuuuuX

[F-ZeroOne]

Can a space colony have an underground in which to hold an underground fighting tournament? 😉

[pengbuzz]

17 minutes ago, F-ZeroOne said:

Can a space colony have an underground in which to hold an underground fighting tournament? 😉

Or perhaps something akin to Armored Core?

[Seto Kaiba]

On 12/5/2024 at 5:33 PM, Big s said:

Do the knee joints in gasaraki count. They bend, but while running they stretch to allow a bigger stride. It was definitely an interesting thing to see and kinda reminded me slightly of how the ED209 has a leg stretch, just not as drastic.

It's been about twenty years since I last watched Gasaraki, so I honestly don't remember.

 

On 12/6/2024 at 10:50 PM, twich said:

I think the fact that it has actual thrust exhaust cones coming out of the feet makes it look almost like a Valkyrie.  I wonder if this signals a change in Gundam design, where the size of the exhaust thruster bell is proportional to the amount of thrust that the specs say come out of it.  The design is very busy.  I will have to see the anime, if it becomes available soon after release in the US on the streaming platforms is subscribe to.

19 hours ago, Big s said:

I’m not sure if this will ever get a ground version, since the show’s premise has to do with the colonies having underground fighting competitions. There’d have to be a drastic change that would lead them away from space, but I guess it’s always a possibility 

16 minutes ago, F-ZeroOne said:

Can a space colony have an underground in which to hold an underground fighting tournament? 😉

If the story/setting leaks from the Italian-language official Gundam website are accurate, this unusual approach to Mobile Suit design for the "G-Quacks" may be a result of it being designed exclusively for use in space.

Spoiler

If G-Quacks really is set in an "Another UC" where the events of the original Mobile Suit Gundam never happened and the Principality of Zeon won the war because the Zeon forces under Char Aznable's command successfully captured the Federation's prototype Mobile Suits... how quietly horrible this alternate future is largely depends on how successful Char was in assassinating and/or overthrowing the Zabis.

As the de facto ruler of the Principality of Zeon even in Mobile Suit Gundam, Gihren Zabi's made Zeon's particularly toxic brand of Ere-ism into national policy.  His aim was to turn the war (back) into a campaign of genocide in order to reduce the Human population for the sake of Earth's environment, force space emigration for any survivors, and secure Side 3's hegemonic rule over the Earth Sphere as a spacenoid master race.  If he wasn't assassinated or at least deposed, G-Quacks might implicitly be the darkest story the franchise has told since Turn-A.  Mobile Suits might be designed exclusively for space because what's left of Humanity lives exclusively in the colonies.

If Char did assassinate Gihren and seize power as the heir to Zeon Deikun, well... probably a similar result but with less genocide and more forced deportation to colonies, if Char didn't go totally apesh*t and tear Side 3 apart in revenge for his father's assassination and his life spent on the run from Zabi assassins.

Either way, kind of a bleak future where Humanity is living in self-imposed exile in space.

 

[lechuck]

GQX's design apparently being busy and complex is pretty hilarious, if anything it's the exact opposite. Point your anger to AOZ stuff if that's the issue.

This is the leanest looking introductory Gundam since I would say Exia. The design language employed here is very much form follows function and I'm not of the profession, but within the context of Gundam mecha this feels close to what real world industrial engineering would come up with – simplicity in the joints, cutouts in the right places for to achieve required motions, solutions that save on materials but work just as good (feet)... think easier manufacturing, easier maintenance, better cost/benefit rations etc.

[Big s]

1 hour ago, lechuck said:

GQX's design apparently being busy and complex is pretty hilarious, if anything it's the exact opposite. Point your anger to AOZ stuff if that's the issue.

This is the leanest looking introductory Gundam since I would say Exia. The design language employed here is very much form follows function and I'm not of the profession, but within the context of Gundam mecha this feels close to what real world industrial engineering would come up with – simplicity in the joints, cutouts in the right places for to achieve required motions, solutions that save on materials but work just as good (feet)... think easier manufacturing, easier maintenance, better cost/benefit rations etc.

Those feet do look like a cost cutting design, though they’d probably break often if it were a real world design due to that joint at the side of the thruster on only one side and being super thin and unsupported. Under stress of landing and combat use the feet and foot thrusters would end up costing more in only a short time. 
I do kinda feel that the backpack is interesting in that it uses its length to articulate heavy thrusters in multiple directions. They appear as aDr Who scarf, but I can see a purpose there.

As far as other offset joints, they’re not my favorite design for a heavy hand to hand kind of joint because they’re not supported on the opposite sides for impact from landing and hand to hand combat. As thin as they’ve made them they appear as though they’d break easily or get bent out of alignment. It is however something you see a lot in real world industrial robot arms, but those are more the type for a simple task rather than high impact action.

[Seto Kaiba]

2 hours ago, Big s said:

Those feet do look like a cost cutting design, though they’d probably break often if it were a real world design due to that joint at the side of the thruster on only one side and being super thin and unsupported. Under stress of landing and combat use the feet and foot thrusters would end up costing more in only a short time. 
I do kinda feel that the backpack is interesting in that it uses its length to articulate heavy thrusters in multiple directions. They appear as aDr Who scarf, but I can see a purpose there.

They're more like helicopter skids than feet... not meant to support any significant weight and definitely not meant for maneuvering on the ground.

Most space-use Mobile Suits in the UC have verniers in the feet, but the G-Quacks seems to have a full-on engine in the leg similar to one of Macross's Valkyries or the MS-09 Dom... which may be the reason for the unusual foot choice.  They needed a larger nozzle.

[Big s]

3 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

They're more like helicopter skids than feet... not meant to support any significant weight and definitely not meant for maneuvering on the ground.

Most space-use Mobile Suits in the UC have verniers in the feet, but the G-Quacks seems to have a full-on engine in the leg similar to one of Macross's Valkyries or the MS-09 Dom... which may be the reason for the unusual foot choice.  They needed a larger nozzle.

It may have needed a larger nozzle, but support on a single side would probably cause damage to that nozzle