Gundam Show Thread - MSG thru GQuuuuuuX

Seto Kaiba · November 19

16 hours ago, Big s said:

Definitely tough to tell the male characters from the female ones. Just look for the missing upper lip and then you know it’s supposed to be an adult lady.

14 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

To me, the animation looked "dead"; I mean, it lacked something to it that I can't quite put my finger on. Yeah, they looked bored and all, but something important is missing.

I had a bit of an epiphany about this as I was getting ready for dinner.

Gundam SEED's characters mostly look the same because Hisashi Hirai's one of those designers who can only draw like six or so designs. But at the same time, there's also an in-story explanation for why everyone looks the goddamn same. Most of these characters are Coordinators. Designer babies whose parents handpicked most, if not all, aspects of their genetic code. They all look the same because the Coordinators, like the global elites who perverted the gene-repair tech used to cure reproductive harm from NBC weapons to create the first Coordinators, insist on engineering their kids to be good looking and the Lego Genetics way Coordinator gene tech works likely means all of them have the very same genes for generic good looks. If everyone's a designer baby whose looks were tailored to the same beauty ideal at the genetic level, everyone's gonna look very similar as they grow up.

That's also likely the real world reason behind the fertility problems Coordinators have. It's glossed-over as issues of "genetic compatibility" between individuals... but Coordinator society is full of people who were extensively genetically engineered using the same templates for desirable traits, Coordinator genetic diversity must be in the freaking toilet. It's entirely possible that many coordinators who aren't related in familiar terms are genetically close enough to be third or fourth-degree relatives. Coordinators have fertility issues that get worse with each successive generation because they're technically massively inbred. That might even explain why second and third generation coordinators like Shinn have volatile tempers and overall poor emotional control.

Even the Naturals have been subjected to much more limited applications of the same gene editing technology to repair the reproductive harm caused by the use of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons in the world wars before the start of the Cosmic Era. So that might explain why even they don't look too different.

So it's bad design, but it's also unintentionally brilliant in a fridge logic sort of way.

16 hours ago, Big s said:

finally finished the last four episodes of the first seed series on Netflix. The glitch with the voices came back and one guy just had his lips flapping with no sound. There was another odd issue, where it seemed like the voice audio was far far louder than the bgm. Had to switch back to the Japanese audio again and the music was much louder. Hopefully that’s not a problem on the next series and there’s no more audio issues.

after watching Seed, I think I liked it far less than I did my first time around. I actually hate Kira. This dude just goes around crying about how he needs to protect his friends, then bangs their fiancés. I get that he’s young, but he’s also a coordinator and should know that 💩ain’t right. Don’t make friends with this guy, he’ll either get you killed or leave you with a lifetime of emotional scars to drive a therapist into therapy.
Athrun wasn’t as bad since at least he wasn’t putting up with his bs. When he found out Kira was going after his leftovers, he banged Kira’s sister.

I'm not a dubs guy by any means, and with the quality of the SEED dub I'm tempted to make a smartarse remark about how no audio is the opposite of a problem...

Anyhoo... yeah, Kira is a very polarizing character. The accusations that he's a godmode sue are not without good reason, and the reason Shinn failed to supplant him as the main character in Destiny has a lot to do (according to the creators) with Shinn being wildly unpopular.

That said, a lifetime of emotonal scars or death is par for the course for a Gundam character so I'm not sure he's necessarily any worse than anyone else in that regard.

Big s · November 19

38 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

That said, a lifetime of emotonal scars or death is par for the course for a Gundam character so I'm not sure he's necessarily any worse than anyone else in that regard.

Yeah, but at least other main characters didn’t bang their friends fiancé or at least not multiple friends fiancés.

rsvictor1976 · 2024-12-04T00:58:50Z

New Gundam series announcement.

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I wonder if the new Macross is going to look like this too.

Edited yesterday at 01:01 AM by rsvictor1976

Dynaman · 2024-12-04T01:43:01Z

I am not a fan of the character animation at all for this one.

Big s · 2024-12-04T01:52:57Z

Just now, Dynaman said:

I am not a fan of the character animation at all for this one.

I don’t mind the characters so far. It kinda reminds me of Gainax stuff. And the gundam sorta has a bit of a newer evangelion look. Although I do think the gundam is so ugly that I’m not interested in a kit or a toy from this. The premise sounds a bit like a cross between G gundam and buildfighters.

I think the reason I don’t mind the character animation is because I’ve been doing a rewatch of the seed stuff and those characters are drawn really poorly and now that I’m into the seed destiny episodes I get what Seto was saying about the characters looking alike. There was a whole conversation going on with Athrun and until his name was mentioned I thought it was shin and oddly shin is kinda drawn almost as a missing link between Athrun and Kira and I sometimes get a little confused between Kira and Shin also. I kinda forgot about the meer Campbell imposter thing and i know I’m gonna get confused there as well, but I think that one was intentional, but pointless

i guess Gundam seed makes almost anything look better

Old_Nash_II · 2024-12-04T02:20:14Z

Aquarion Myths of Emotions >>>> Gundam GQUUUUUUUX

kajnrig · 2024-12-04T02:30:44Z

35 minutes ago, Big s said:

reminds me of Gainax stuff. And the gundam sorta has a bit of a newer evangelion look.

Studio Khara so that checks out. If anyone can drag Gundam back to modern relevancy, it's them, so best of luck to them.

mikeszekely · 2024-12-04T02:57:22Z

1 hour ago, Dynaman said:

I am not a fan of the character animation at all for this one.

I'm not either, but it's better than the mechanical designs. Woof.

I gave SEED crap at the time for rehashing a lot of the One Year War but worse, but twenty years of crap* have made me a lot more forgiving of it and 00.

*TV series, anyway, Unicorn and Thunderbolt were pretty good, and Hathaway's Flash was a good start.

Graham · 2024-12-04T03:42:45Z

I'm still hoping for a high quality OVA of Gundam Sentinel one day, although due to the licencing mess with that it will probably never happen.

A nicely animated Crossbone Gundam TV series would be my second choice.

mikeszekely · 2024-12-04T03:44:33Z

1 minute ago, Graham said:

I'm still hoping for a high quality OVA of Gundam Sentinel one day, although due to the licencing mess with that it will probably never happen.

A nicely animated Crossbone Gundam TV series would be my second choice.

I'm right there with you, but flipped around.

Big s · 2024-12-04T03:50:41Z

7 minutes ago, Graham said:

I'm still hoping for a high quality OVA of Gundam Sentinel one day, although due to the licencing mess with that it will probably never happen.

A nicely animated Crossbone Gundam TV series would be my second choice.

Definitely, I think a lot of people want these

Big s · 2024-12-04T03:53:44Z

I really hate the name of this show though. I hope it gets changed. Imagine trying to tell people what you’re watching and having to try and say that title.

Seto Kaiba · 2024-12-04T04:46:33Z

Honestly, my biggest problem is that this teaser makes it sound like we're just recycling the same premise they did in the previous show, The Witch from Mercury.

"Students gamble on Mobile Suit fights for no adequately explored reason beyond boredom and because the plot says they have to."

Black Valkyrie · 2024-12-04T05:12:04Z

One ugly mobile suit , Turn A looks far better.

davidwhangchoi · 2024-12-04T05:17:11Z

Character designs by Take (Pokemon Sun and Moon) :lol:

Keith · 2024-12-04T05:20:35Z

Even before I saw the director credit, I immediately said "Kare Kano, Diebuster, FLCL".

"Kazuya Tsurumaki", I am 1000% on board for this.

Edited 21 hours ago by Keith

davidwhangchoi · 2024-12-04T05:25:41Z

but what about Pokémon? can't wait till they debut a Haro Poké capture ball.

Keith · 2024-12-04T05:29:21Z

2 minutes ago, davidwhangchoi said:

but what about Pokémon? can't wait till they debut a Haro Poké capture ball.

Look at this man's resume and tell me you're still worried abour Pokemon designs.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=172

Except "Captain Earth", ignore that one...

davidwhangchoi · 2024-12-04T05:37:25Z

6 minutes ago, Keith said:

Look at this man's resume and tell me you're still worried abour Pokemon designs.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=172

Except "Captain Earth", ignore that one...

this is Character designer's art page:

https://sai-zen-sen.jp/special/takegarou/

twitter:

Keith · 2024-12-04T06:06:09Z

27 minutes ago, davidwhangchoi said:

this is Character designer's art page:

https://sai-zen-sen.jp/special/takegarou/

twitter:

I can see why that designer was chosen though. Amongst other things, there is a "Clamp" like quality to their designs. That trailer also evokes a lot of "Kare Kano" feels.

rsvictor1976 · 2024-12-04T06:21:34Z

I'm not too thrilled about how the characters or the Gundam looks in the trailer. But you never know, its not uncommon for Sunrise to come out with a new model Gundam or upgraded version midway through the series.

davidwhangchoi · 2024-12-04T06:27:38Z

19 minutes ago, Keith said:

I can see why that designer was chosen though. Amongst other things, there is a "Clamp" like quality to their designs. That trailer also evokes a lot of "Kare Kano" feels.

Cool, I usually keep an open mind and as you pointed out, the director is solid :good:

Big s · 2024-12-04T06:55:21Z

1 hour ago, Black Valkyrie said:

One ugly mobile suit , Turn A looks far better.

This is definitely the ugliest gundam ever. From the head to the feet, and the clown colors everywhere don’t help. It’s a mess.

tekering · 2024-12-04T07:34:29Z

5 hours ago, Old_Nash_II said:

Aquarion Myths of Emotions >>>> Gundam GQUUUUUUUX

You misspelled the title. There's only 6 U's, not 7. 🤪

3 hours ago, Big s said:

Imagine trying to tell people what you’re watching and having to try and say that title.

Just ignore the six stupid U's. It's meant to be pronounced as "Gundam G.Q.X."

electric indigo · 2024-12-04T08:20:40Z

Ikuto Yamashita (Evangelion) designed the new Gundam.

Edited 18 hours ago by electric indigo

Big s · 2024-12-04T09:01:48Z

1 hour ago, tekering said:

You misspelled the title. There's only 6 U's, not 7. 🤪

Just ignore the six stupid U's. It's meant to be pronounced as "Gundam G.Q.X."

Sorry, but there’s so many “U’s” that it’s impossible to ignore them. I’m probably just gonna call it Gundam uuuuuuGLY

Keith · 2024-12-04T09:14:01Z

3 hours ago, davidwhangchoi said:

this is Character designer's art page:

https://sai-zen-sen.jp/special/takegarou/

twitter:

Better yet, he was also character designer on "Katanagatari".

mikeszekely · 2024-12-04T13:03:11Z

6 hours ago, Big s said:

This is definitely the ugliest gundam ever. From the head to the feet, and the clown colors everywhere don’t help. It’s a mess.

Every time they do a new Gundam TV series I think it's the mechanical designs can't get any worse, and every time they prove me wrong. Aerial was worse than Barbatos, and this thing is new levels of bad.

Test_Pilot_2 · 2024-12-04T13:38:33Z

It's the Final Fantasy Ifrit Gundam.

Big s · 2024-12-04T15:51:22Z

2 hours ago, mikeszekely said:

Every time they do a new Gundam TV series I think it's the mechanical designs can't get any worse, and every time they prove me wrong. Aerial was worse than Barbatos, and this thing is new levels of bad.

I didn’t hate the aerial, but a lot of the designs were very ugly and awkwardly stumpy looking in that show. But I get what you’re saying. The overall designs in these share losing their elegance for trying too hard to be different and failing hard. I don’t know who keeps trying to make feet uglier and uglier on these things and this new one has the worst of them.

azrael · 2024-12-04T18:03:02Z

Just a FYI, it's pronounced "G-quax".

Some other info from the press event. GQuuuuuuX production started in 2018 (2 years before Witch from Mercury).

pengbuzz · 2024-12-04T18:11:19Z

7 minutes ago, azrael said:

Just a FYI, it's pronounced "G-quax".

Some other info from the press event. GQuuuuuuX production started in 2018 (2 years before Witch from Mercury).

Gesundheit.

Seto Kaiba · 2024-12-04T19:40:10Z

11 hours ago, electric indigo said:

Ikuto Yamashita (Evangelion) designed the new Gundam.

Wow... that looks awful.

I thought it was ugly when I could only see bits and pieces of it in the trailer, but seeing the whole thing at once is just 🤮.

Does it have three arms in this picture? And what the hell is going on with its feet? I can't tell if it has elf shoe-style feet or it's got spiked stiletto heels like something out of Five Star Stories.

1 hour ago, azrael said:

Just a FYI, it's pronounced "G-quax".

Some other info from the press event. GQuuuuuuX production started in 2018 (2 years before Witch from Mercury).

Its name is "G-Quacks"... I guess it invites the inevitable joke that the production team certainly are.

In development since 2018 and this is what they decided was showready? Yeesh.

F-ZeroOne · 2024-12-04T20:00:29Z

And I thought "Turn-A Gundam" was hard to pronounce...!

mark-1s · 2024-12-04T20:00:42Z

23 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Wow... that looks awful.

I thought it was ugly when I could only see bits and pieces of it in the trailer, but seeing the whole thing at once is just 🤮.

Does it have three arms in this picture? And what the hell is going on with its feet? I can't tell if it has elf shoe-style feet or it's got spiked stiletto heels like something out of Five Star Stories.

Its name is "G-Quacks"... I guess it invites the inevitable joke that the production team certainly are.

In development since 2018 and this is what they decided was showready? Yeesh.

Uuuuuuugly. I thought it was something from Virtual On at first glance.

It looks like it has something protruding off its back making it look like it has 3 arms.

And then the feet: I’m thinking it’s like half of a foot with a single pivot point on one side with a bit of a stiletto heel. Not sure. Definitely don’t care.

Now give me the next part to Hathaway, gundamit!!

Edited 6 hours ago by mark-1s

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