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Binged Requiem last night. Plenty of B-Movie cheese in the dialogue and some character designs. Lots of jank.

However, the mood every time the Gundam showed up is undeniable. I liked the Jason reference, but instead to me this Gundam wasn't horror. It has an efficiency/no lack of wasted movement in its fighting that oozed true combat machine instead of most of the other drama mama Gundams. This thing meant business and it delivered like a mission-focused soldier would.

Very different feel to me and I liked that. It was fun to watch as long you go in prepared to forgive the cheese.

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On 10/24/2024 at 5:39 AM, Test_Pilot_2 said:

Binged Requiem last night. Plenty of B-Movie cheese in the dialogue and some character designs. Lots of jank.

However, the mood every time the Gundam showed up is undeniable. I liked the Jason reference, but instead to me this Gundam wasn't horror. It has an efficiency/no lack of wasted movement in its fighting that oozed true combat machine instead of most of the other drama mama Gundams. This thing meant business and it delivered like a mission-focused soldier would.

Very different feel to me and I liked that. It was fun to watch as long you go in prepared to forgive the cheese.

Ya, i liked how the Gundam was the nemesis of the show and had an almost sinister vibe going. 

 

47 minutes ago, mark-1s said:

My son just walked in on me watching episode 1. He asked me what old PS3 game I was playing lol

Lol. Yes, to me the character animation was the worst aspect. The mecha action was fun though.

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4 hours ago, davidwhangchoi said:

i thought the ending was trash.

 

Pilot is a Newtype and can't sense that ending???

I think he totally sensed the ending. He got so confused by knowing that the Zaku pilot was gonna abandon her child and continue fighting, even though she said she didn’t want further conflict. He was just so shocked by the future stupidity of the bad writing, that he was overwhelmed and then got stabbed.

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10 minutes ago, Hikuro said:

🤨 a prequel to a sequel that barely is even a couple of years after the sequel series.................huh?

Well, Bandai needs to sell unused Freedom design as kits and figures, sir. :spiteful:

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On 10/29/2024 at 9:06 PM, davidwhangchoi said:

i thought the ending was trash.

 

Pilot is a Newtype and can't sense that ending???

If that were the case, no new types would die. Right?

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44 minutes ago, Bolt said:

If that were the case, no new types would die. Right?

I think sneaking up on a new type that skilled would be difficult. Maybe if the battlefield was more chaotic, then it wouldn’t be as easy to sense hostility.

it’s still not the worst part of the ending 

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55 minutes ago, Bolt said:

If that were the case, no new types would die. Right?

but that's not the case. Amuro died. Char died, just because the show is inconsistent doesn't automatically imply Newtypes can't die.

the correct critique is the entire 6 episodes set up the newtype ability foreseeing danger.

Newtypes died in battle by superior newtype ability or sacrificial acts such as Quess saving Hathaway, but not as some random NPC

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6 hours ago, no3Ljm said:

Gundam SEED Freedom prequel has been announced.

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Oh boy... more lifeless and unnecessary garbage from Gundam's most overrated, least capable director.

🤮

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1 hour ago, Big s said:

I think sneaking up on a new type that skilled would be difficult. Maybe if the battlefield was more chaotic, then it wouldn’t be as easy to sense hostility.

it’s still not the worst part of the ending 

The Gundam pilot was clearly distracted and having a serious moment of doubt. 

 

1 hour ago, davidwhangchoi said:

but that's not the case. Amuro died. Char died, just because the show is inconsistent doesn't automatically imply Newtypes can't die.

the correct critique is the entire 6 episodes set up the newtype ability foreseeing danger.

Newtypes died in battle by superior newtype ability or sacrificial acts such as Quess saving Hathaway, but not as some random NPC

I think it's ok if a new type dies in an un explored way. The kid had some conflicting emotions, as others have. And his change of heart was surely letting his guard down.

I'm not saying the writing didn't have issues, and i do agree , the new types death wasn't the worst part of the writing. 
Nevertheless, i found the story to be entertaining and much better than many other Gundam entries. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Bolt said:

Nevertheless, i found the story to be entertaining and much better than many other Gundam entries. 

It was far better than Narrative 

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On 11/1/2024 at 6:19 PM, Seto Kaiba said:

Oh boy... more lifeless and unnecessary garbage from Gundam's most overrated, least capable director.

🤮

But you will still watch it... 😄

Besides, what if they got May'n to do the opening?

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1 hour ago, kalvasflam said:

But you will still watch it... 😄

As narratively unnecessary and painfully dull as the movie was, I can honestly say I feel no inclination whatsoever to watch its equally dull and unnecessary prequel.

On the scale of "better things to do with my time", watching Freedom Zero is going to fall somewhere below teaching myself to play the bluegrass banjo with my feet, catching the flu for purely recreational purposes, or rewriting the entirety of the European Union's tax code in dactylic hexameter pig Latin and publishing it as an epic poem.

 

1 hour ago, kalvasflam said:

Besides, what if they got May'n to do the opening?

A hard pass even then.

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I"ve been going back to the original shows recently, this week I watched the first 3 Gundam movies, then I decided since it's been many years, to watch the Zeta trilogy. And you know what? It's terrible! The "new" animation they used mixed with the older footage, even giving it fake grain filtering, the echoey sound effects, the bad cuts and sloppy story edits, it's just absolutely terrible. I'm honestly wondering what in the world Tomino was thinking with this trilogy. 

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40 minutes ago, Hikuro said:

I"ve been going back to the original shows recently, this week I watched the first 3 Gundam movies, then I decided since it's been many years, to watch the Zeta trilogy. And you know what? It's terrible! The "new" animation they used mixed with the older footage, even giving it fake grain filtering, the echoey sound effects, the bad cuts and sloppy story edits, it's just absolutely terrible. I'm honestly wondering what in the world Tomino was thinking with this trilogy. 

I have to agree about the zeta thing. It just doesn’t blend well

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11 hours ago, kalvasflam said:

wouldn't mind if they redid Zeta, same story line, generally same dialogue, just improved animation.  And Zeta animation for that time was pretty good.

Zetas animation was really good for the time, and to me even in comparison to todays animation still holds out really well.

but when they blended newly animated sequences inbetween, it was terrible. The zeta trilogy came out almost 20 years to late and should been done in the early 90s just like how the original trilogy was just a few years after it had aired. The newer scenes they made back then blended better, still noticeable by quality of animation, but it worked.

12 hours ago, Big s said:

I have to agree about the zeta thing. It just doesn’t blend well

they cut to much out and left things in that made no sense. Like Rosamia shows up at the tail end as a ghost, but her last appearance before then was in an ejection seat safely escaping her exploding mobile suit in part 2, then never seen again until the final battle. 

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12 hours ago, kalvasflam said:

wouldn't mind if they redid Zeta, same story line, generally same dialogue, just improved animation.  And Zeta animation for that time was pretty good.

Honestly, I love the look of the old zeta show and really don’t think it needs any updating. The og Gundam on the other hand is a bit messy, but charming in its own way although seems a bit out of place compared to the shows that were coming up only a few years later 

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I'm not sure what I was expecting from a teaser trailer for what is, by any rational standard of measure, a glorified filler episode prequel to the Gundam franchise's least necessary movie.

I swear, half the characters in the trailer look as bored to be there as I would be to watch it.

Gundam SEED always had a real problem with most of its character designs looking exactly the goddamn same, and it feels like the higher animation quality of the movie and this teaser make the problem feel worse somehow.  

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2 hours ago, Seto Kaiba said:

Gundam SEED always had a real problem with most of its character designs looking exactly the goddamn same

Definitely tough to tell the male characters from the female ones. Just look for the missing upper lip and then you know it’s supposed to be an adult lady.

finally finished the last four episodes of the first seed series on Netflix. The glitch with the voices came back and one guy just had his lips flapping with no sound. There was another odd issue, where it seemed like the voice audio was far far louder than the bgm. Had to switch back to the Japanese audio again and the music was much louder. Hopefully that’s not a problem on the next series and there’s no more audio issues.

after watching Seed, I think I liked it far less than I did my first time around. I actually hate Kira. This dude just goes around crying about how he needs to protect his friends, then bangs their fiancés. I get that he’s young, but he’s also a coordinator and should know that 💩ain’t right. Don’t make friends with this guy, he’ll either get you killed or leave you with a lifetime of emotional scars to drive a therapist into therapy. 
Athrun wasn’t as bad since at least he wasn’t putting up with his bs. When he found out Kira was going after his leftovers, he banged Kira’s sister.

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20 minutes ago, pengbuzz said:

To me, the animation looked "dead"; I mean, it lacked something to it that I can't quite put my finger on. Yeah, they looked bored and all, but something important is missing.

I just finished the first seed show and it kinda feels like when someone drew pictures on those computer art pads from 20 years ago. Sorta a cheap lifeless kinda of look. This trailer kinda seems in line with that appearance. A lot of anime from the early 2000’s kinda looks that way 

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8 hours ago, Big s said:

A lot of anime from the early 2000’s kinda looks that way 

SEED came out during the period as CG and drawing tablet screens started replacing physical animation materials. This was still a time where they did it on physical materials, then scanned in. Nowhere near where it is now where there's practically no paper/cels (i.e, in reverse now; done in the computer and then printed out for reference & QC)

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16 hours ago, Big s said:

Definitely tough to tell the male characters from the female ones. Just look for the missing upper lip and then you know it’s supposed to be an adult lady.

14 hours ago, pengbuzz said:

To me, the animation looked "dead"; I mean, it lacked something to it that I can't quite put my finger on. Yeah, they looked bored and all, but something important is missing.

I had a bit of an epiphany about this as I was getting ready for dinner.

Gundam SEED's characters mostly look the same because Hisashi Hirai's one of those designers who can only draw like six or so designs.  But at the same time, there's also an in-story explanation for why everyone looks the goddamn same.  Most of these characters are Coordinators.  Designer babies whose parents handpicked most, if not all, aspects of their genetic code.  They all look the same because the Coordinators, like the global elites who perverted the gene-repair tech used to cure reproductive harm from NBC weapons to create the first Coordinators, insist on engineering their kids to be good looking and the Lego Genetics way Coordinator gene tech works likely means all of them have the very same genes for generic good looks.  If everyone's a designer baby whose looks were tailored to the same beauty ideal at the genetic level, everyone's gonna look very similar as they grow up. 

That's also likely the real world reason behind the fertility problems Coordinators have.  It's glossed-over as issues of "genetic compatibility" between individuals... but Coordinator society is full of people who were extensively genetically engineered using the same templates for desirable traits, Coordinator genetic diversity must be in the freaking toilet.  It's entirely possible that many coordinators who aren't related in familiar terms are genetically close enough to be third or fourth-degree relatives.  Coordinators have fertility issues that get worse with each successive generation because they're technically massively inbred.  That might even explain why second and third generation coordinators like Shinn have volatile tempers and overall poor emotional control.

Even the Naturals have been subjected to much more limited applications of the same gene editing technology to repair the reproductive harm caused by the use of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons in the world wars before the start of the Cosmic Era.  So that might explain why even they don't look too different.

So it's bad design, but it's also unintentionally brilliant in a fridge logic sort of way.

 

16 hours ago, Big s said:

finally finished the last four episodes of the first seed series on Netflix. The glitch with the voices came back and one guy just had his lips flapping with no sound. There was another odd issue, where it seemed like the voice audio was far far louder than the bgm. Had to switch back to the Japanese audio again and the music was much louder. Hopefully that’s not a problem on the next series and there’s no more audio issues.

after watching Seed, I think I liked it far less than I did my first time around. I actually hate Kira. This dude just goes around crying about how he needs to protect his friends, then bangs their fiancés. I get that he’s young, but he’s also a coordinator and should know that 💩ain’t right. Don’t make friends with this guy, he’ll either get you killed or leave you with a lifetime of emotional scars to drive a therapist into therapy. 
Athrun wasn’t as bad since at least he wasn’t putting up with his bs. When he found out Kira was going after his leftovers, he banged Kira’s sister.

I'm not a dubs guy by any means, and with the quality of the SEED dub I'm tempted to make a smartarse remark about how no audio is the opposite of a problem...

Anyhoo... yeah, Kira is a very polarizing character.  The accusations that he's a godmode sue are not without good reason, and the reason Shinn failed to supplant him as the main character in Destiny has a lot to do (according to the creators) with Shinn being wildly unpopular.

That said, a lifetime of emotonal scars or death is par for the course for a Gundam character so I'm not sure he's necessarily any worse than anyone else in that regard.

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