yellowlightman Posted June 19, 2006 Posted June 19, 2006 as for the Mustang with the RB26DET motor...I almost puked when I saw it, and again when I saw it for the second time too......japanese engines in american performance cars is just not right. 409058[/snapback] Hah, I absolutely love how upset that car makes people. American car guys are like, "eww, Japanese motor!" and import guys are like, "ewe, Mustang!" The RB26 is an amazing motor. The Mustang Fastback is an amazing car. I don't see anything wrong with putting the two together. If for no other reason that just to be DIFFERENT. Car customizers tend to get into habits and do the same poo over and over again, I'm all for mixing it up a bit.
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted June 19, 2006 Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) Hah, I absolutely love how upset that car makes people. American car guys are like, "eww, Japanese motor!" and import guys are like, "ewe, Mustang!"The RB26 is an amazing motor. The Mustang Fastback is an amazing car. I don't see anything wrong with putting the two together. If for no other reason that just to be DIFFERENT. Car customizers tend to get into habits and do the same poo over and over again, I'm all for mixing it up a bit. 409123[/snapback] If the stats posted are correct, 340 is very tame (heck, almost factory stock) by RB26 standards. For that kinda output, might as well have left the original engine in with a bit of tuning. Its different, but not in a way I find appealing. Rather see something like a Viper's V10 in a 180SX. Edited June 19, 2006 by Retracting Head Ter Ter
emajnthis Posted June 19, 2006 Posted June 19, 2006 I thought it was a great hybrid, the old 67 were light and the Winsor V8's (as you could see by the posted times) are heavy, even with the offset of horsepower. The RB26 as yellowlightman said is an amazing motor (more amazing than people realize or want to admit) which can pull a 3400lb car to sub 13 quarter miles with simple bolt on mods or in most cases, stock with a little tuning. I don't understand why people make such a fuss over success; stop being haters and start appreciating what motorsports is all about, or be more proactive and build a better car.
yellowlightman Posted June 19, 2006 Posted June 19, 2006 Its different, but not in a way I find appealing. Rather see something like a Viper's V10 in a 180SX. 409131[/snapback] You'd rather see a car that's completely undriveable? It's about more than just HP. The point is doing something different. For the last 35 years all you see in Mustangs are V8s (well, suped up Mustangs) anyways. Why not put something different in it?
emajnthis Posted June 19, 2006 Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) more feasibly people jam V8's into 180/240SX, RX-7's and especially the old 240/80Z's and turn them into great machines (American motor into Japanese Chassis) i don't understand how doing the opposite is blasphemous. Furthermore, the RB26 posted way better times than the V8 Winsor with less HP, how can anyone with eyes argue with numbers? And the motor at 340hp is virtually stock, those motors are known to get in the upwards of 600 with ease on just bolt ons. It probably has a way better offset in weight with the Inline 6 also, so it'll probably hold better on a track for that matter. Edited June 19, 2006 by emajnthis
Lightning Posted June 19, 2006 Posted June 19, 2006 don't get me wrong, I know the RB26 is a great motor, I just feel that american engines belong in american cars, and japanese engines belong in japanese cars. It would've been really cool if they had got a 300 Straight Six from ford and used that instead.
areaseven Posted June 19, 2006 Author Posted June 19, 2006 don't get me wrong, I know the RB26 is a great motor, I just feel that american engines belong in american cars, and japanese engines belong in japanese cars. It would've been really cool if they had got a 300 Straight Six from ford and used that instead. 409203[/snapback] That's the common mentality among car enthusiasts. I say it doesn't hurt to experiment with different motors, Japanese or American. And remember, the RB26 was there because it was part of the story.
reddsun1 Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 I wonder why so much disparity in the perf of the Mustangs? Perhaps the Windsors are a good deal heavier? I don't know a terrible whole lot about the RB26DETT or other Japanese motors. I'm no expert, but the 430 engines used in two of the mustangs are much larger (7.0 liters) than the RB26DETT (2.6 liters), so yes, the Windsors would be quite a bit heavier than the Nissan engine. 409006[/snapback] Yeah, but still, they're still small-blocks, right? They'd just have been running stroker cranks/rods to get the add'l displacement. I'd imagine complete Windsors should only weigh about 550-600lbs or so, don't they?
Beltane70 Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 I've seen stranger things than American engines in Japanese cars and vice-versa. In my local auto shopping magazine there was a 2000 Ford Escort with body mods from no less than three different cars. This car had a Silvia front end, S2000 taillights and Z3 fenders. I have no idea what this person was thinking about!
myk Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 (edited) Yeah it's gotta' be about the performance. If someone offered to install a Japanese motor in my Charger to make it that much better I'd definitely go for it; I'd feel odd about it, but I'd go for it. Also, that RX-7 dressed up in Veilside parts in Tokyo Drift has to be one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen... Edited June 20, 2006 by myk
Lightning Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Yeah it's gotta' be about the performance. If someone offered to install a Japanese motor in my Charger to make it that much better I'd definitely go for it; I'd feel odd about it, but I'd go for it.Also, that RX-7 dressed up in Veilside parts in Tokyo Drift has to be one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen... 409405[/snapback] a few of the professional drift cars were in the movie, Calvin Wan's Falken RX-7 was there, Tanner Foust's S-13, a couple other S-13's that I can't name the top of my head were on there too. I thought I saw Signal's R-34 on one of the scenes.
areaseven Posted June 20, 2006 Author Posted June 20, 2006 Edmunds has a full report on the cars used in The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift. And where was the VW R32 in the movie? Inside Line Tests the Cars of The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift
Lightning Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 Edmunds has a full report on the cars used in The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift. And where was the VW R32 in the movie?Inside Line Tests the Cars of The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift 409547[/snapback] I think it was a spectator's car...
reddsun1 Posted June 21, 2006 Posted June 21, 2006 Edmunds has a full report on the cars used in The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift. And where was the VW R32 in the movie?Inside Line Tests the Cars of The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift 409547[/snapback] LOL, it's funny how HP numbers quoted are like fish stories--they get bigger every time somebody tells 'em. IIRC, the Skyline/Mustang was stated before as making 320hp? And the V8 ver. making 400hp or so. But for the video, they jump to 370hp and 500hp, respectively. By the time the promo cars start making the rounds, I guess it'll be "this thing makes nearly 600 horsepower..."
Lightning Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 Edmunds has a full report on the cars used in The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift. And where was the VW R32 in the movie?Inside Line Tests the Cars of The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift 409547[/snapback] LOL, it's funny how HP numbers quoted are like fish stories--they get bigger every time somebody tells 'em. IIRC, the Skyline/Mustang was stated before as making 320hp? And the V8 ver. making 400hp or so. But for the video, they jump to 370hp and 500hp, respectively. By the time the promo cars start making the rounds, I guess it'll be "this thing makes nearly 600 horsepower..." 409853[/snapback] sad how it happens, isn't it?
Raptor Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 So, it's a great engine in a mediocre to poor chassis?
Lightning Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) anyways, before this thread starts to turn into a japanese vs. american war here, time to shift gears.....slightly. I made some more progress on my Chrysler "yesturday" got the trunk area gutted as well as the interior! back seat area and the rest of the interior (that I could fit in the picture) after I snapped those pics I finished getting the rest of the insulation taken out, as well as the back seat belts. pretty soon I can send it off to a shop to get sandblasted once I take the dash, steering wheel and engine out. Then the real fun begins with overhauling the suspension, getting a new rear end, finding a big block and rebuilding it, and if I'm lucky enough, finding a 4-speed. EDIT: spelling! Edited June 22, 2006 by Lightning 06
ComicKaze Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 For those that have seen Tokyo Drift - do they get away with faking it's Tokyo ? I thought it was riduculous how the film kept getting changed... First it was supposed to be 80% tokyo, 20% America and then it kept getting pushed back to 60-40, 70-30, 50-50 and eventually what they ended up with is like 10% Tokyo and 90% filmed in the US.
Lightning Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 well, I haven't been there, so I dunno. But some of the footage from there was obtained somewhat illegally from what I've heard. (at least from what was being written in Hot Rod...
yellowlightman Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 i though they got away with it pretty well. Nothing was really glaringly fake. Only think I really took issue with was the ridiculous amount of CG people they used in Hachiko crossing. Looked really fake and that poo is packed anyways, dunno why they'd need CG!
areaseven Posted June 22, 2006 Author Posted June 22, 2006 For those that have seen Tokyo Drift - do they get away with faking it's Tokyo ? I thought it was riduculous how the film kept getting changed...First it was supposed to be 80% tokyo, 20% America and then it kept getting pushed back to 60-40, 70-30, 50-50 and eventually what they ended up with is like 10% Tokyo and 90% filmed in the US. 410069[/snapback] Well, it's Hollywood, and the film producers know that majority of the people who watch the film have never been to Tokyo. And unless you live in L.A., you wouldn't notice that the skidpad scene and city chase scene were filmed on Wilshire Blvd., or that the downhill drift scenes were filmed on the hills off the 210 freeway. And as Lightning 06 mentioned, a lot of Tokyo footage was shot illegally, as it was impossible to obtain permits to film there.
areaseven Posted June 22, 2006 Author Posted June 22, 2006 Looks like The Fast and the Furious has some stiff competition coming later this year. Redline Redline Trailer
emajnthis Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) because the trailers are raw footage it makes it look kind of cheesy but i'm sure the finished product will be a good popcorn flick. Good choice of cars, but my heart will sink everytime one of them gets hurt (there goes half a million dollars, oops i mean a million, err two million, sigh...). Edited June 22, 2006 by emajnthis
areaseven Posted June 22, 2006 Author Posted June 22, 2006 because the trailers are raw footage it makes it look kind of cheesy but i'm sure the finished product will be a good popcorn flick. Good choice of cars, but my heart will sink everytime one of them gets hurt (there goes half a million dollars, oops i mean a million, err two million, sigh...). 410242[/snapback] According to the IMDb entry, all the cars used in the movie are part of the producer's personal collection. And it's already been reported that his Porsche Carrera GT was totaled during production.
reddsun1 Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) From what little I saw of the trailer at the first link, it looks more like they're cashing in on the "Gumball Rally" trend; the ultra-chic-neauveaux-riche-auto-hooligans phenom that's becoming more popular across the pond as well as here in the US. Did anybody else get a bunch of unwanted pop up scan-your-computer-for-free-click-yes-for-our-antivirus-crap ad bulls--t when they went to the movie w'site? I hate that s--t. I really do. Edited June 22, 2006 by reddsun1
yellowlightman Posted June 22, 2006 Posted June 22, 2006 From what little I saw of the trailer at the first link, it looks more like they're cashing in on the "Gumball Rally" trend; the ultra-chic-neauveaux-riche-auto-hooligans phenom that's becoming more popular across the pond as well as here in the US. 410311[/snapback] That reminds me, does anyone else remember the episode of Tom Cruise where they go on the Gumball 3000? I thought that was a really good episode and fairly different from the rest of Tom Cruise.
Lightning Posted June 23, 2006 Posted June 23, 2006 ummkayy.... next question! what's everybody's favorite sleeper?
glane21 Posted June 23, 2006 Posted June 23, 2006 because the trailers are raw footage it makes it look kind of cheesy but i'm sure the finished product will be a good popcorn flick. Good choice of cars, but my heart will sink everytime one of them gets hurt (there goes half a million dollars, oops i mean a million, err two million, sigh...). 410242[/snapback] I'm pretty sure the one still shot of the guy with a bloody forehead in an upside down car, it's a Fiero. Check out that ribbed door trim. Totally 1984-1987 Fiero door. They probably used kit cars for the Diablo and any others that could pass.
Phyrox Posted June 23, 2006 Posted June 23, 2006 ummkayy....next question! what's everybody's favorite sleeper? 410616[/snapback] Well, I've never actually raced one, but I bet a 1970 Monte Carlo 454 would surprise anyone. It LOOKS like one of the many crappy american cars from the mid-70s, but has the heart of one of the meanest muscle cars ever. I used to have a 70 454 Chevelle (LS5). 454 power with Monte Carlo looks = sleeper extraordinaire
yellowlightman Posted June 23, 2006 Posted June 23, 2006 ummkayy....next question! what's everybody's favorite sleeper? 410616[/snapback] Sleeper's are inherently kind of dumb, or at least the popularity behind them is. That said... an empty Ford E-350 van.
emajnthis Posted June 24, 2006 Posted June 24, 2006 I think sleepers are dumb if your original plot was to make a sleeper, but people who end up putting a killer motor in what they got because it's cheap and effective (like the people who put turbo motors in their 80's volvos) is respectable. In regards to American sleepers, pretty much any high displacement V8 powered junker from the 60's and 70's is a "sleeper", and only the ignorant would not realize that they're fast.
reddsun1 Posted June 24, 2006 Posted June 24, 2006 (edited) Now, how's THIS for a sleeper? How could you NOT get a chuckle out of this one? Hope the link works. LOL, it looks like he's still got boxes and crap in the back! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=61...29&q=drag+wagon Edited June 24, 2006 by reddsun1
emajnthis Posted June 24, 2006 Posted June 24, 2006 You'd be surprised how well Wagons (old or new) do at the drag strip since that little bit of extra weight in the back helps keep the tires planted (which is why a lot of RWD sports cars are fast backs, so the glass and trunk provide more weight).
areaseven Posted June 25, 2006 Author Posted June 25, 2006 This is a rather interesting design. Wiesmann GT
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