phatslappy Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I'd like to do a few customs, now that I've got strike and ostrich armor on the way. So, I'm curious, what's a good clearcoat to use that would protect the valk from flaking? My paint on my VF-1D is cracking like crazy from a few transformations. I'd like for my future customs to be able to handle the rigors of a few transformations every now and then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Future. It's rock hard and forgiving as hell. The best part is that when you're done you can do your kitchen floor (that's what I did). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Also, Future has the advantage of being utterly totally clear (unlike most "clear" coats). Seriously, its more clear than my tap water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceland Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Future. It's rock hard and forgiving as hell. The best part is that when you're done you can do your kitchen floor (that's what I did). 374584[/snapback] You do your kitchen floor with your finished models?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatslappy Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 thanks guys. do you have to thin it before applying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyryder Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Nope. Future is pretty thin, to begin with. I've never had a problem spraying it straight from the bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Have you guys ever had a problem getting an even glossy coat when airbrushing Future? A grainy/pebbly surface? When building it in thin coats. I used to fight a lot with that, I haven't recently practised it more though. Last time I got already a lot better results. But not that perfect yet. When I next time do some airbrushing I'll try to test it with as small pressure as possible, I suspect it might work better, not sure. It could help the leveling/prevent too early drying, if that's the problem. I take it also should be sprayed in incredibly thin coats to work right. It's pretty hard to control & see. Opinions etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Most everyone would point you to this: http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html And actually he says go for heavier coats. Makes sense, since for canopies you literally dunk it and let the excess pour off, and that makes it glass-smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf-1 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Yeah, that is the page, though it doesn't solve much problems when making thin coats IIRC. Many people prefer spraying it in thin coats. But I will do some more testing on both ways to use it, thin and heavy. I was just thinking if somebody has had the same problem, and would've had something to say I don't know yet. It's not that big problem anymore, but still needs some tweaking and testing. I asked only just in case, since this was discussed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mule Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 It also works really well just getting painted on by brush. The stuff smooths out perfectly on its own so there are no brush strokes left behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Most everyone would point you to this:http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html And actually he says go for heavier coats. Makes sense, since for canopies you literally dunk it and let the excess pour off, and that makes it glass-smooth. 375589[/snapback] Awesome thanks for the link, lots of helpful stuff there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solscud007 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 So do you use future is a sort of clearcoat to seal in the decals too? cause it said too use a clear coat over future som im confused on that part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Future can, and is, used for everything. The following procedure is not at all uncommon: Primer. Color. Future to smooth surface for decals. Cut decal from sheet, DUNK DECAL IN FUTURE USING FUTURE AS A WATER AND DECAL SET SUBSTITUTE, apply. Future to seal decals. Weather. Future to seal weathering. Flattened Future for final finish. I have yet to use Future instead of Micro-Set etc, but plenty of people like it and say it prevents silvering better than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyryder Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I used Future to settle decals onto an N scale locomotive. It seemed to work pretty good. Got it down between all the raised door details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Q Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Future can, and is, used for everything. The following procedure is not at all uncommon:Primer. Color. Future to smooth surface for decals. Cut decal from sheet, DUNK DECAL IN FUTURE USING FUTURE AS A WATER AND DECAL SET SUBSTITUTE, apply. Future to seal decals. Weather. Future to seal weathering. Flattened Future for final finish. * I have yet to use Future instead of Micro-Set etc, but plenty of people like it and say it prevents silvering better than anything else. 378283[/snapback] How do you flatten Future??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Future can, and is, used for everything. The following procedure is not at all uncommon:Primer. Color. Future to smooth surface for decals. Cut decal from sheet, DUNK DECAL IN FUTURE USING FUTURE AS A WATER AND DECAL SET SUBSTITUTE, apply. Future to seal decals. Weather. Future to seal weathering. Flattened Future for final finish. * I have yet to use Future instead of Micro-Set etc, but plenty of people like it and say it prevents silvering better than anything else. 378283[/snapback] How do you flatten Future??? 378314[/snapback] Duh, you step on the bottle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 But seriously you can flatten future by mixing it with an acrylic flat clear coat like Testors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Future can, and is, used for everything. The following procedure is not at all uncommon:Primer. Color. Future to smooth surface for decals. Cut decal from sheet, DUNK DECAL IN FUTURE USING FUTURE AS A WATER AND DECAL SET SUBSTITUTE, apply. Future to seal decals. Weather. Future to seal weathering. Flattened Future for final finish. I have yet to use Future instead of Micro-Set etc, but plenty of people like it and say it prevents silvering better than anything else. 378283[/snapback] I've heard of people using it to glue canopies as well. Unfortunetly no one has been able to turn it into a good desert topping yet (very old SNL joke). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Tamiya flat can flatten almost anything, but I'd try Testor's acryl stuff first--I've read a few issues about mixing Tamiya and Future directly. I've disliked every "not normal model cement" I've ever tried for a canopy. They all seem to dissolve readily in water. Not good when trying to decal pilot's names by the canopy! I've had more than one "glued" canopy come off during decaling. I just use normal glue, very carefully and in small amounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyryder Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Supposedly you can make it matte or satin by adding Tamiya flat base to it. I've never tried that. I usually just spray flat clear over the Future. You could also just add a little bit of Future to your flat clear coat to help increase the flat's durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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