the white drew carey Posted May 15, 2012 Author Posted May 15, 2012 Read each book after the season is done. Quote
Omegablue Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 This sounds kinda ass-backwards to me, honestly. Seriously, as good as the show may be, the books are better. It's THEM you don't want to spoil! Okay... but you're saying that because you've read the books to compare them with. I haven't, yet. So I'm avoiding to have spoilers revealed by reading the books first. Quote
Gubaba Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Okay... but you're saying that because you've read the books to compare them with. I haven't, yet. So I'm avoiding to have spoilers revealed by reading the books first. So, start the first book now. By the time you finish the second, the season will be done, and you can decide for yourself if the books are better or not. Quote
Omegablue Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 So, start the first book now. By the time you finish the second, the season will be done, and you can decide for yourself if the books are better or not. I'm weak. If something is as good as it's claimed to be, then I end up reading everything of it. Quote
Gubaba Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 I'm weak. If something is as good as it's claimed to be, then I end up reading everything of it. Again, I'm not seeing the problem here...if you end up liking the books more, you won't want to wait for the series. And since the series is an adaptation of the books, made at least partially for people who have read the books...then what's the worry? Quote
kaiotheforsaken Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Again, I'm not seeing the problem here...if you end up liking the books more, you won't want to wait for the series. And since the series is an adaptation of the books, made at least partially for people who have read the books...then what's the worry? This. As a side note, I found it was harder to read/re-read books for which I had already seen the show for (season 1 to book 1). My brain would try to match every character in the book to a face I had see on TV even though I had read some of the books prior to the show coming out. IMO if you like the show, the books should just be read. They are richer, more in depth and the show is beginning to take way too many liberties with the plot for my taste. Quote
Omegablue Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 IMO if you like the show, the books should just be read. They are richer, more in depth and the show is beginning to take way too many liberties with the plot for my taste. Is the series' plot deviating from the books? Quote
kaiotheforsaken Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 It's started to in some ways yes. Daenarys having her dragons stolen for example, never happened. Also things like having one (or more, cant recall) of her Bloodriders die didn't happen in the book either. There are also smaller things too, I don't recall Jon Snow ever fighting or disobeying the Lord Commander like in the beginning of season two, Joffrey never forces hookers to beat eachother etc. Quote
Omegablue Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Now I'm going to avoid the books. I tend to remain loyal to original material, and when stuff like that happens it annoys me, and might put me off the series. Then again the first couple of books were written a while ago, and perhaps the author suggested such changes? Or is HBO completely in charge of the show? Quote
kaiotheforsaken Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Martin is/has penned some scripts for the show and I believe serves as a producer in some capacity. But I also know he's stated that the books are the only thing that serve as canon. I get that some liberties have to be taken because it's a show, but the changes they are making have totally put me off. So I can see your point Omega, when I was watching I would regularly get "this didn't happen in the books" or "this didn't happen this way" moments in almost every episode. Quote
Omegablue Posted May 15, 2012 Posted May 15, 2012 Martin is/has penned some scripts for the show and I believe serves as a producer in some capacity. But I also know he's stated that the books are the only thing that serve as canon. I get that some liberties have to be taken because it's a show, but the changes they are making have totally put me off. So I can see your point Omega, when I was watching I would regularly get "this didn't happen in the books" or "this didn't happen this way" moments in almost every episode. This is what mainly put me off The Walking Dead series. Eventhough I still watch it, and have accepted it's an alternative realm, I still facepalm during most scences. The once a month comicbook gets me more excited as it's the original canon. Quote
Gubaba Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) Okay, I just finished A Dance with Dragons, and thus I'm all caught up... And uh, I refuse to believe that Jon is dead...but other than that, GREAT SHOW, GRRM!!! While the 4th and 5th books lack the propulsive plotting of the first three, I still thought they were great, and expanded the world greatly. Looking forward to Book 6!!! Edited May 31, 2012 by Gubaba Quote
Dynaman Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I love the series so far, glad to hear the books are different since I will be reading them. Quote
Gubaba Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I love the series so far, glad to hear the books are different since I will be reading them. If you've just been watching the series... whatever you THINK is gonna happen, ain't gonna happen. I tell ya, Book 5 is real game-changer... even more than Book 3. Quote
Dynaman Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 If you've just been watching the series... Yes, just watched the show so far. I'm not even up to date with that, I think I've seen up to episode 6 of season 2 so far. Looking forward to the books, but I've got a pile of about 20 still to read as well... Quote
Gubaba Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Yes, just watched the show so far. I'm not even up to date with that, I think I've seen up to episode 6 of season 2 so far. Looking forward to the books, but I've got a pile of about 20 still to read as well... Put them aside. I tell ya, Feast for Crows alone is nearly 1000 pages, and I finished it in, like, a week. Once you start 'em, YOU CAN'T STOP!! Quote
UN Spacy Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 Saw the promo while I was watching last night's Boardwalk Empire. Can't wait. BTW. Is there a street date for the second season Blu-ray? Quote
Mr March Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 February 19, 2013 was the date provided, very close to the release date for the first season. Provides just enough time to rewatch the season before the next season starts in March. I love how HBO thinks like a fan Quote
Duke Togo Posted November 27, 2012 Posted November 27, 2012 Saw the promo while I was watching last night's Boardwalk Empire. Amazing episode, btw. Quote
Gubaba Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 "KING OF THE NORTH! KING OF THE NORTH!!"(And yes, I've read all the books...) Quote
mecha2241 Posted March 30, 2013 Posted March 30, 2013 "KING OF THE NORTH! KING OF THE NORTH!!" (And yes, I've read all the books...) Then you know it's "King IN the North!" lol Quote
Gubaba Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Then you know it's "King IN the North!" lol Crap, you're right. Quote
Tober Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 I've thought about reading the books, but I've heard that the later books arn't as good as the first few... Is that right? Quote
kanedaestes Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 No, I think people look at the later books wrong. Book 3 is a huge climax, but you can't go from that to more climax. 4 and 5 are kind of a reset situation yet pushing the stories forward. You are introduced to a lot more people and get more info on what's going on, but there aren't as many epic battles like book 3 and that's why people are "bored" with them. I for one love all the books and the last 2 were great. Quote
Dobber Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Yeah book 5 was really good, but book 4 was.....I don't know. Just got really sick of Cersie. Book 4 was definitely the weakest book so far, IMO. Chris Edited March 31, 2013 by Dobber Quote
Gubaba Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) I've thought about reading the books, but I've heard that the later books arn't as good as the first few... Is that right? Yeah, I agree with Kanedaestes... the first 3 books are Act I. They have a beginning, middle, and end, and that end is on a high (or low, depending on who you're rooting for). Book 4 suddenly introduces a whole bunch of new characters, at a point when you're thinking, "What the hell!? GIVE ME THE PEOPLE I CARE ABOUT!!" But if you keep reading, be patient, and trust the author, you will be rewarded. And Book 5 ends up superbly setting the scene for the final act. Edited March 31, 2013 by Gubaba Quote
Dobber Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 That is if GRRM ever finishes the damn series! LOL! Chris Quote
Mr March Posted April 1, 2013 Posted April 1, 2013 Well, the first episode of season 3 was once again a strong opening to the season. I liked Tyrion's meeting with Tywin, especially getting a hint of the kind of home life he must have had living with those jerks. Margery ingratiating herself with the people of King's Landing was a great political maneuver and I enjoyed how much Cersei hates on her for it. It was also good to see those dragons getting much bigger and nice to see Daenerys with an army around her. I really enjoyed the sequence that showed the giant among the Wildlings. Good effects and nice sense of scale. I immediately thought they looked about 10-12 feet tall just based off the scene and was astonished to find that once I googled it, that is the exact height of those creatures in the book. Overall a great episode and I'm definitely excited for the series. Quote
Zoroastres Posted April 1, 2013 Posted April 1, 2013 I'm at the point where I'm not sure if I like GoT, or dislike it. The only character in the book I like at all, or find at all interesting, is Tyrion. Everything else is increasingly difficult for me to tolerate. The only character in the TV show I like at all, or find at all interesting, is Tyrion. The fact that Dinklage is a fantastic actor only improves this. I'm really only watching the TV show because I know what awesome stuff he'll get to do. Shame his character kind of petered out in books 4 and 5. .... I think something "funky" must have happened with Martin after book 3. The first three books of the series are fantastic, but the last two are... excessively verbose and tedious. Reading on the series, he originally intended to do a time-skip after book 3, and book 4 would have started several years later, with Daenarys invading (finally). How awesome would it have been if Martin had been able to sustain the pacing of the first three books like that? So awesome, that's how. Quote
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