Majestic Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 The trailer looks great to me too. The Brando voiceover was AWESOME and set the mood perfectly. I love that shot of supes just floating in space. That said, I agree with Graham, I don't want an exhaustive origin story either. My guess is that it will be a series of hopefully brief flashbacks that will tie in with superman's story in the present. Quote
azrael Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 The teaser doesn't really show much for me to comment on. The costume...well I already threw in my comments back on this thread: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=11473 From the official site: Following a mysterious absence of several years, the Man of Steel comes back to Earth in the epic action-adventure Superman Returns, a soaring new chapter in the saga of one of the world's most beloved superheroes. While an old enemy plots to render him powerless once and for all, Superman faces the heartbreaking realization that the woman he loves, Lois Lane, has moved on with her life. Or has she? Superman's bittersweet return challenges him to bridge the distance between them while finding a place in a society that has learned to survive without him. In an attempt to protect the world he loves from cataclysmic destruction, Superman embarks on an epic journey of redemption that takes him from the depths of the ocean to the far reaches of outer space. Definitely no origin and definitely won't tread on Smallville. This movie appears more to be about Supes finding his place and accepting change. Looking at Bryan Singer's video blogs, I kinda get that feel that this is what the story is about. When they jump to his youth in the teaser, jumping through the corn fields, it looks like he's just beginning to figure out he's different. Then there's the whole Brando dialogue about him being different. Then we get to the present day where the world has been without a Superman for several years, the world has moved on without him. So I get this feeling that this whole movie is about changes and accepting them. Quote
JELEINEN Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 I'm intriged. Definitely going to see it when it comes out. I'm also looking forward to the upcoming directors cut of the second movie. Quote
Agent ONE Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Looks good to me. Should have been Arnold, but as he is away being Governor... Quote
Apollo Leader Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 I'm intriged. Definitely going to see it when it comes out. I'm also looking forward to the upcoming directors cut of the second movie. 346278[/snapback] Does that include such scenes as: 1) Zod or one of his men killing that boy who tried to escape from that small town with the light of a police car. Someone cries out "He was just a boy!" Then Zod or one of his men say something like "He'll never be a man." 2) Superman erasing Lois' memory and then destroying the Fortress of Solitude. Without seeing this, it makes certain things in Superman IV quite confusing. For some reason they would play these scenes when it was aired on one of the national networks. Same thing went with the first Naked Gun movie... a scene cut from that shows how Frank's umpire vest was shot full of holes and deflated; in the theatrical cut, one moment the umpire vest is intact and then in the next moment, it's all deflated and shot full of holes! Quote
chrono Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Damn! Spacey actually looks pretty good as Luthor!! Quote
capt.actionjackson Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 For some reson Spacey really looks like Gene Hackman to me in that shot. Weird... Quote
mechaninac Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 For some reson Spacey really looks like Gene Hackman to me in that shot. Weird... 346345[/snapback] Only thing is that Spacey looks a lot more serious/pensive than Hackman ever did in that role...that's a good thing. Quote
JELEINEN Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 I'm intriged. Definitely going to see it when it comes out. I'm also looking forward to the upcoming directors cut of the second movie. 346278[/snapback] Does that include such scenes as: 1) Zod or one of his men killing that boy who tried to escape from that small town with the light of a police car. Someone cries out "He was just a boy!" Then Zod or one of his men say something like "He'll never be a man." 2) Superman erasing Lois' memory and then destroying the Fortress of Solitude. Without seeing this, it makes certain things in Superman IV quite confusing. For some reason they would play these scenes when it was aired on one of the national networks. Same thing went with the first Naked Gun movie... a scene cut from that shows how Frank's umpire vest was shot full of holes and deflated; in the theatrical cut, one moment the umpire vest is intact and then in the next moment, it's all deflated and shot full of holes! 346316[/snapback] Don't know about the answer to your questions, but the directors cut is supposed to be from Donner, who was fired before he finished it and it was handed off to another director. Here's more info: http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/new...watch-S2dvd.jpg Quote
dr_vandermeer Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Spacey's Luthor is almost as good as his Dr. Evil in Austinpussy. Quote
Zor Primus Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 I wouldn't put down Hackman's Luthor as inferior or less serious then Spacy. We have yet to see the finished product and basing it on a single screenshot is foolish. We all know what kind of an evil bastard Hackman can play. Runaway Jury and Crimson Tide come to mind. Sadly the "Otis Factor" ruined Luthor's image into almost a comical version of Supe's arch nemesis. Oh yeah and MISS TESBACHER!, didn't do it for me either. Quote
Radd Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 Despite how unfaithful an adaptation of the comics, I have to admit I rather enjoyed Gene Hackman as Luthor, Otis and Miss Tesbacher and all. However, I would not be at all opposed to a more serious Luthor, especially if he has good writing and acting to back him up. If they can make him fun at the same time, then hey, excellent. Quote
JELEINEN Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 Considering how casually he was willing to kill millions of people just for money, I'd say Hackman's Luther was pretty serious. Quote
mechaninac Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 I wouldn't put down Hackman's Luthor as inferior or less serious then Spacy. We have yet to see the finished product and basing it on a single screenshot is foolish. We all know what kind of an evil bastard Hackman can play. Runaway Jury and Crimson Tide come to mind. Sadly the "Otis Factor" ruined Luthor's image into almost a comical version of Supe's arch nemesis. Oh yeah and MISS TESBACHER!, didn't do it for me either. 346596[/snapback] I wasn't putting down Hackman's Luthor, or his ability to play the "heavy", but his characterization was rather tongue in cheek... more like an inspired, mischievous sociopath than an evil, calculating, megalomaniacal genius, specially starting with the second movie. Having Fat boy and Bimbo as sidekicks to Hackman's somewhat flippant real-estate-tycoon-wanna-be Luthor didn't really help to establish the character as Super Man's greatest foe either, IMO. I'll readily agree that we don't know what Spacy's take of Lex will be, and one screenshot is hardly enough to make an educated comparison; for all we know, Spacy could play him just like Hackman did (for continuity's sake), but the overwhelming first impression seems otherwise... foolish? maybe, but it's amazing how, more often then not, first impressions are correct. We'll find out in due time. Quote
capt.actionjackson Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 (edited) He deifinitely looks like he's wearing one of Hackman's old suits, but I'd much rather Spacey play him like Luthor from Superman:TAS. Edited November 22, 2005 by capt.actionjackson Quote
Ladic Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 well Christopher Reeves SUperman movies weren't very serious either, so i think Hackman potrayal, fit well in the scheme of things. Quote
Prime Posted November 23, 2005 Posted November 23, 2005 Shows some potential. I'll probably check it out... Quote
Jemstone Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 I'm intriged. Definitely going to see it when it comes out. I'm also looking forward to the upcoming directors cut of the second movie. 346278[/snapback] Does that include such scenes as: 1) Zod or one of his men killing that boy who tried to escape from that small town with the light of a police car. Someone cries out "He was just a boy!" Then Zod or one of his men say something like "He'll never be a man." 2) Superman erasing Lois' memory and then destroying the Fortress of Solitude. Without seeing this, it makes certain things in Superman IV quite confusing.] Wow, I'm glad somebody else remembers those scenes. They would play the film in whole back on TV in the 80s I recall but then stopped showing those part roughly 15-17 years ago. Never understood why they were left out except for the fact some people didn't want to see the absurd albeit violent scene of a boy on a horse getting blown to bits by a thrown police car light. Quote
myk Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 Considering how casually he was willing to kill millions of people just for money, I'd say Hackman's Luther was pretty serious. 346610[/snapback] Well, I always believed that the Hackman Luthor was more of a tongue in cheek type of villain; serious enough to tamper with ballistic missiles, but still silly enough to have bumbling sidekicks... "Miss TESCHMACHER!!!!" Quote
Skullsixx Posted November 26, 2005 Posted November 26, 2005 I'm also looking forward to the upcoming directors cut of the second movie. So is this version actually coming out on DVD? I though the studio would not allow it? I'd love to see this considering all the crap that happened to Donner with this flick. As far as the new movie... It will kick ass! The trailer alone gave me shivers. Thank God real fan/directors like Singer are putting out quality films like this as well as King Kong and Batman Begins!!! Quote
wolfx Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Poor guy. Lindsay Lohan got her boobs digitally reduced, now Superman's package too. http://www.news24.com/News24/Backpage/HotG...1849549,00.html Quote
Hikuro Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 Well if that doesn't give someone an ego boost, I don't know what does. Quote
Noriko Takaya Posted December 19, 2005 Posted December 19, 2005 I'm intriged. Definitely going to see it when it comes out. I'm also looking forward to the upcoming directors cut of the second movie. 346278[/snapback] Does that include such scenes as: 1) Zod or one of his men killing that boy who tried to escape from that small town with the light of a police car. Someone cries out "He was just a boy!" Then Zod or one of his men say something like "He'll never be a man." 2) Superman erasing Lois' memory and then destroying the Fortress of Solitude. Without seeing this, it makes certain things in Superman IV quite confusing. For some reason they would play these scenes when it was aired on one of the national networks. Same thing went with the first Naked Gun movie... a scene cut from that shows how Frank's umpire vest was shot full of holes and deflated; in the theatrical cut, one moment the umpire vest is intact and then in the next moment, it's all deflated and shot full of holes! 346316[/snapback] Don't forget General Zod using an M16 to mow down some Army troops in that fight in the White House too. That scene always stuck with me when ABC ran the international version on television years back. Quote
Mr March Posted December 19, 2005 Author Posted December 19, 2005 Poor guy. Lindsay Lohan got her boobs digitally reduced, now Superman's package too. http://www.news24.com/News24/Backpage/HotG...1849549,00.html 353519[/snapback] HAHAHAHAA! Of all the things requiring digital editing Quote
myk Posted December 20, 2005 Posted December 20, 2005 (edited) Lindsay Lohan's orbs of kryptonite were reduced? Where? That is a crime, if I ever encountered one... Edited December 20, 2005 by myk Quote
terry the lone wolf Posted March 9, 2006 Posted March 9, 2006 There's new trailer promoting WB's release of Superman related DVD's(i.e. 50's Superman to Smallville) and the "Superman's Returns". Check it out: yearofsuperman Quote
Noriko Takaya Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 And notice how there is no reference to the 3rd and 4th film in that trailer. That's great! Quote
fansubs2000 Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 I've always prefered Batman to Superman, but i gotta say that clip was awesome! Damn! I pumped up to see this flick now! Quote
chrono Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 I'm still having problems with how 'slim' he looks. I get that it's a stylish gay look when I see it. Quote
ComicKaze Posted March 10, 2006 Posted March 10, 2006 (edited) Still looks like Superboy to me. Cape is tucked in wrong in Singer's revisionist/classic attempt on the suit. Instead of the usual wide neckline and cape over the shoulders, Superman Returns is basically him wearing a wetsuit with a small S on the chest. It should have looked like this Edited March 10, 2006 by ComicKaze Quote
Smiley424 Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 I agree about the costume too ComicKaze, that's my one real complaint about Superman Returns as a whole. Otherwise, I'm really excited about this movie and I hope to see more movies with some of Supes more fantastic villians (Darkseid, Parasite, Metallo, Brainiac, Bizarro). Those are the guys I want to see up on the big screen. Quote
Macross73 Posted March 13, 2006 Posted March 13, 2006 Agree with you on the costume it too trimmed down. The "S" should be prominent The cape isnt quite right. whats with the speedo briefs? Will i see it? probably Atleast, it takes place 5 years after the events of Superman 2 Thats the good part. Quote
Stamen0083 Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 That new pic, is that the digitally reduced package there? Superman is supposed to be super endowed, damn it. I don't need to be reminded of myself when I watch movies to escape. Quote
azrael Posted May 3, 2006 Posted May 3, 2006 And Trailer 2 is out. http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/ Enjoy. Quote
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