Extra Large Mumma Posted April 30, 2006 Posted April 30, 2006 I'd have to say its easy to overlook the shoulder thing cause the valks i assume are assembled in fighter mode. So during the QC process you can't see if its the right shoulder or not. 395168[/snapback] If the QC'ers only look at the fighter, it's not called QC'ing. They're supposed to transform between the modes and look for flaws. There's no reason for shoddy QC after their years of experience and good profit. Yamato's poor QC reminds me the reason I stop buying multiples. To those who wait: it's not going to be any better. As I said, it's not experience. It's the process, commitment and attitude to assemble better toys that are lacking from Yamato. Quote
wolfx Posted April 30, 2006 Posted April 30, 2006 I'd have to say its easy to overlook the shoulder thing cause the valks i assume are assembled in fighter mode. So during the QC process you can't see if its the right shoulder or not. 395168[/snapback] If the QC'ers only look at the fighter, it's not called QC'ing. They're supposed to transform between the modes and look for flaws. There's no reason for shoddy QC after their years of experience and good profit. Yamato's poor QC reminds me the reason I stop buying multiples. To those who wait: it's not going to be any better. As I said, it's not experience. It's the process, commitment and attitude to assemble better toys that are lacking from Yamato. 395246[/snapback] Actually i'm now quite curious if what you said is true. Does real QC entail transforming a figure? Cause if it does, it would take hell lots of time and resources. I think usually they just assemble it in whatever mode they're supposed to be packaged in. Quote
CF18 Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Just saw some QC complains from HK: http://www.toysdaily.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=39501 Translation: Poster and two friends bought 3 VF-0S together from the same store. One has a broken tail fin, left leg missing magnet, right leg has a 2mm gap - refunded. One's left leg has inverted magnet (i.e. repel the fast pack), fixed by surgery. One has very loose hinges. Probably will get an exchange/refund. Two of the three have loose gunpod handle. P.S. One of the foot move to wrong location when folded. (not quite sure what he means) There is one reply say he has similar issue with loose hinges, and another saying his copy is fine and well painted. Well I hope you guys have better luck. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) Pics, and let us know what to look for. To those who wait: it's not going to be any better. As I said, it's not experience. It's the process, commitment and attitude to assemble better toys that are lacking from Yamato. But I'm optimistic and think that if you give them a chance that the gradual improvements will be seen as they "learn". Which is why I recommend people to wait,(don't preorder so much without waiting for reviews first - think of all the shipping cost?) share your impressions, complain, (nitpick like a whiny bitch) and speak out so they can at least be presured to address any issues if they hear your voice loud enough so future people don't suffer too. The complaint could be something small like loose head turret (I got one of these on the VF1S Roy) but hopefully it will alert and inform others enough to at least make an informed purchase so they won't reel in shock. If enough people want something and bitch about it enough times and provided it is doable, (hips being improved in later 1/72 macross plus toy editions for example) they will get it. Being an early adopter is always risky. You sometimes are the one relied upon to eat the cost and help to eventually open up the gates for the masses who jump in later after all the early issues are looked into from the initial early complaints. (take massively multiplayer online gaming (MMORPG) as an example during the early days of Ultima Online. Are we not glad that this pioneered the way for all other mmorpg that came later, despite all the early problems experienced and that it was not perfect from the start?) Edited May 1, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
kensei Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Do Yamato have to accept back defective products? Cause if they do, you can bet that they will be cracking down on the slackarses that are screwing around. It costs them money in the end after all. Quote
wolfx Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 They probably do but not all toy retailers do cause its quite costly to send back a defective toy to be replaced with a new one. Though to stay on the good side of customers, they accept the problem ones and try to sell it at a loss. Quote
Mechamaniac Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Can someone get pics of the pilot figs compared? The VF-0 pilot looks so detailed compared to the asstastic ones they gave us with the 1/60 VF-1's that I am wondering how close in size it is to the 1/48 pilot. Quote
eugimon Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 meh, I'm waiting for more units to ship until the gripe fest begins. Quote
Deimos Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 finally pictures ! but not mine though... courtesy of kentgh from a local forum I frequent (missing the battroid pic, becos link broken, will post when fixed) enjoy ! Quote
recon Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Most of the batches came from jp while some are from HK. Seems that there isnt QC problems so far..no wrong shoulders, loose joints. Havent fiddle with the Fps magnets and polycaps yet..Hope those are ok as well Touch wood! The pilot figurine is one of the best painted figures i have seen so far, looks much more better that that of the 1/48. Cheers Quote
CF18 Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Another post from HK: http://www.toysdaily.com/phpBB2/viewtopic....c05fc7f5a006941 This guy has no complain, and got tons of good photos. Quote
DyNo Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Another post from HK:http://www.toysdaily.com/phpBB2/viewtopic....c05fc7f5a006941 This guy has no complain, and got tons of good photos. 395479[/snapback] That is sweet looking!!!! Quote
ghostryder Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Another post from HK:http://www.toysdaily.com/phpBB2/viewtopic....c05fc7f5a006941 This guy has no complain, and got tons of good photos. 395479[/snapback] Quote
UN Spacy Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Another post from HK:http://www.toysdaily.com/phpBB2/viewtopic....c05fc7f5a006941 This guy has no complain, and got tons of good photos. 395479[/snapback] Quote
buddhafabio Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) For all those that bitched about the price here is the money shot. this proves size wise what your vf-0 looks compared with a 1/48. now aside from defects it proves the toys value note how the two are almost the same height. Edited May 1, 2006 by buddhafabio Quote
ghostryder Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 For all those that bitched about the price here is the money shot. this proves size wise what your vf-0 looks compared with a 1/48. now aside from defects it proves the toys value      note how the two are almost the same height. 395496[/snapback] Is 1/60 Roy over-compensating for his height, with a bigger gun and extra-long ROV lasers? Quote
ghiblione Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Can someone show some pics about these details :"The cockpit seat rotates so that the pilot figure is facing the correct way in both Fighter & Battroid Modes"? and this:"The torso has some sort of sliding function on the chest piece to make the Battroid torso look shorter"? and this one too:"The backpack hinge is much more durable than on the 1/48"? Thanks... Quote
buddhafabio Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 For all those that bitched about the price here is the money shot. this proves size wise what your vf-0 looks compared with a 1/48. now aside from defects it proves the toys value       note how the two are almost the same height. 395496[/snapback] Is 1/60 Roy over-compensating for his height, with a bigger gun and extra-long ROV lasers? 395501[/snapback] may be a lil. i want to see one of these next to 1/60s soooo bad. Quote
ghostryder Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) may be a lil. i want to see one of these next to 1/60s soooo bad. 395504[/snapback] This was posted a few pages back: Edited May 1, 2006 by ghostryder Quote
buddhafabio Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 i guess it was i only looked at the defect on the shoulder.oops Quote
Fortress_Maximus Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 Crap! I can't forgive that. Especially not for the price i'm paying. I hope mine is fine. 395008[/snapback] Same here. Hoping for the best. Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 JEEBUS That looks awesome! Thats it, if I see this bastard@AMA I'm so buying it! Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) Nice pics on toysdaily. It does show that the choice to go 1/60 was a good one and that it's a good scale for a VF0 toy. I don't think I could afford a 1/48 VF0. If only the Qrau had that much attention like that. (opening hatches and actual micromissiles that can come out like GBP, posable pilot like scopedog with more detailed cockpit interior, and knee joints like VF0) Now they need to do the ghost booster (its naked) and vf0A. (and maybe reactive armor fatsuit) So what are all the tampo printed details again? And have the stickers improved? Edited May 1, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
Shmitty Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) Nice pics on toysdaily. It does show that the choice to go 1/60 was a good one and that it's a good scale for a VF0 toy. I don't think I could afford a 1/48 VF0. If only the Qrau had that much attention like that. (opening hatches and actual micromissiles that can come out like GBP, posable pilot like scopedog with more detailed cockpit interior, and knee joints like VF0) Now they need to do the ghost booster (its naked) and vf0A. (and maybe reactive armor fatsuit) So what are all the tampo printed details again? And have the stickers improved? 395551[/snapback] From what I saw, the pics from toysdaily don't have any stickers applied. Everything in those images is printed on. So, it's quite the change. You still have to put the kites on the nose though. Edited May 1, 2006 by Shmitty Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted May 1, 2006 Posted May 1, 2006 (edited) Ah that's good to hear. I always thought they were a little stingy with the VB6 by not putting on the eyes so this looks like an improvement. Edited May 1, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
Nani?! Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 buddhafabio, those shots are gangsta. thanks for the pix. Quote
wolfx Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 Awesome pictures! Can't wait for mine. But strangely not much pics with the fastpacks yet. Quote
R_Deckard Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 My hobby link Japan VF-0S preorder just got updated from May Restock to June Restock. That sucks. Anybody else have preorders with them? Quote
Agent-GHQ Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 Oh no, don't open the case! Well, I will have to inspect all four of mine. 395386[/snapback] Quote
Golden Arms Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 My hobby link Japan VF-0S preorder just got updated from May Restock to June Restock. That sucks.Anybody else have preorders with them? 395695[/snapback] My order is shown as shipped a day ago by EMS. I ordered the VF-0S and the super stealth. I should have them early next week. Quote
Zeta Otaku Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 I just got confirmation from Image Anime that I'll be getting my VF-0 tomorrow (yeah, it's a little more expensive than most places, but I get anything that's instock the next business day even through standard shipping, so it sorta works out). Now I'm REALLY nervous about this... hopefully those insanes QC issues are a fluke and not a recurring thing.... Quote
isamu_dyson Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 (edited) My hobby link Japan VF-0S preorder just got updated from May Restock to June Restock. That sucks.Anybody else have preorders with them? 395695[/snapback] same here .. i guess they have received less Vf-0 than expected and we must now wait the restock. Edited May 2, 2006 by isamu_dyson Quote
Onimusha-shin Posted May 2, 2006 Posted May 2, 2006 after seeing the 1S and the 0S side by side, i can't help but feel that the 0S looks rather Patlabor'ish. still prefer the 1S. anyone feels this way too? anyway, will still get one. Quote
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