isamu_dyson Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 i've just received mine too it's a 1st ed, 2nd issue. and it's a hit nothing broken or loose or detached. i've transformed it once and no apparent problem to notice. It's a beautifull valk that yamato have made Quote
Dante74 Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 I'm expecting mine to ship from HLJ today or tomorrow. I can't wait for it to get here! Quote
Scream Man Posted August 21, 2006 Posted August 21, 2006 ok, its happeend a few times now. The metal pins connecting the shoulder plates to the back plate keep sliding out of thir sockets. mainly the right shoulder, but the left just did it too. has anyone else had this, and how can i fix it? Quote
jenius Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 Man... the list of things to look forward to when I get this thing seem truly daunting. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) I'm still deciding on 0S or 0A. Still waiting for more impressions on people who have later 0S and any probs they might still be having. Scream post up some pics of these pins so I know what to expect when I finally decide to go 0S over 0A. (the low vis scheme is making me lean towards 0A right now.. but I feel like getting S based on impressions of late releases - "should I wait or get one now?" I'm wondering) List of things: -later releases of GBP versus earlier releases (any improvement?) -later releases of 0 line vs earlier (any change? like feet or anything?) -later release of garland (have yamato found way to strengthen shoulder?) Edited August 22, 2006 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
Scream Man Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 there u go, i circled em for ya basically, the pins just slide free of their houseing when there is slack put on the hinge. i can slide them back in no sweat, Im just trying to figure a way to make em stay. Kensei has suggested wood glue, but the more I looked at it, the more i think all I need to do is find a way to plug the end hole somehow. Im still working on it. And on the garland front; Juast got mine, and its perfect Quote
Dante74 Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 God, that thing needs panellining bad. Mine just shipped from HLJ. Should get here next week. I hope there's nothing wrong with it. Wasn't yours a second edition? Quote
Scream Man Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 i dont think so, no. Doesnt sound like this has happeend to anyone else though Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 thanks for taking out time to post that. Good to hear the garland is problem free too. Will it self destruct one day and something cracks I wonder.. (I'm pretty paranoid eh?) Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted August 22, 2006 Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) i've just received mine too it's a 1st ed, 2nd issue.and it's a hit nothing broken or loose or detached. i've transformed it once and no apparent problem to notice. It's a beautifull valk that yamato have made 426921[/snapback] Hey Isamu, I've been wondering: Does the second issue have a lock on the ankle when you pull out the feet? Not that it needs one, but the production shots of the VF-0A show that apparently the feet can be pulled a bit further than the VF-0S and that they stay there. Maybe Yamato added this feature after the first release? Edit: The supposedly loose joints don't bother me the slightest, but THAT could make me buy the 0S again Edited August 22, 2006 by Lonely Soldier Boy Quote
Vermillion21 Posted August 23, 2006 Posted August 23, 2006 I'm still deciding on 0S or 0A. Still waiting for more impressions on people who have later 0S and any probs they might still be having. I'm on the fence as well. I really like the VF-0 model, just not sure which one. And my budget only allows for one, since I plan on getting the DYRL Max reissue as well. Quote
isamu_dyson Posted August 23, 2006 Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) Hey Isamu, I've been wondering: Does the second issue have a lock on the ankle when you pull out the feet? Not that it needs one, but the production shots of the VF-0A show that apparently the feet can be pulled a bit further than the VF-0S and that they stay there. Maybe Yamato added this feature after the first release?Edit: The supposedly loose joints don't bother me the slightest, but THAT could make me buy the 0S again 427314[/snapback] i've noticed no lock on the ankle ... sorry ....... Now I'm hoping that I've really bought a 2nd issue , and not a 1st ed 2nd run ..... Anyway, mine is almost perfect the only small problem is that the gunpod don't want to stay straight in fighter mode. Edited August 23, 2006 by isamu_dyson Quote
R_Deckard Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Link to more VF-0S in the main pics thread: VF-0S Pics Quote
MasterOfPuppets Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Can someone explain to me all the differences in the production runs and 1st and 2nd editions without going all "ZOMG NOOB!"? Thanks. Quote
kensei Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Just the floppy joints really. That's the only difference for the 1/60 VF-0S. Quote
MasterOfPuppets Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Just the floppy joints really. That's the only difference for the 1/60 VF-0S. Any packaging differences? Which has the floppier joints? Quote
Onimusha-shin Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 so far, there's no surefire way of identify a 1st or a 2nd run 0S. your best bet would be to ask the retailer and hope he's honest with you. as for floppiness, it tends to occur in the 1st run and sparingly. i would say probably like 30-40% of the time? Quote
R_Deckard Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Mine, the one I just posted pics of is a floppy retarded mess. It looks great but it is horrible on literally every joint. I pretty much have to leave it in fighter mode (which I like the best anyways). I got it on the first preorder. Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Mine, the one I just posted pics of is a floppy retarded mess. It looks great but it is horrible on literally every joint. I pretty much have to leave it in fighter mode (which I like the best anyways). I got it on the first preorder. Man, that sucks. Mine is a 1st run too and holds just fine. I guess I was lucky so I won't push my luck getting a 1st run YF-19 Quote
jenius Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 so far, there's no surefire way of identify a 1st or a 2nd run 0S. your best bet would be to ask the retailer and hope he's honest with you.as for floppiness, it tends to occur in the 1st run and sparingly. i would say probably like 30-40% of the time? I'm confused, everyone in here is mentioning a 2nd edition 0S but Neova states they won't be released until the end of September. Did I miss something? Quote
eugimon Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 I'm confused, everyone in here is mentioning a 2nd edition 0S but Neova states they won't be released until the end of September. Did I miss something? I think people are confusing 2nd shipment with 2nd run. Even with the 1st run, it's a mixed bag in terms of joint quality. Quote
Onimusha-shin Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 according to what i remember (my memory fails me from time to time so don't blast me if i'm wrong) but i think Graham mentioned that the 2nd batch of 0S for sale was actually part of the 1st run but as to when the 2nd run will actually come along, i'm not so sure. it could be sometime after 0A comes along? we'll have to let Graham clarify this if he has time. i think there was some mention that the actual 2nd run would be in Jan 2007 but i have doubts that it'll take that long to restart another run for the rather popular Zero series. Quote
mechaninac Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 I got a VF-0S upon it's first release, preordered from TMP. While the joints aren't as stiff as those on the 1/48s, they do hold up just fine on the one I have... dynamic poses don't pose any problems. The only issues I have with mine are the feet thrusters slide back into the legs when the weight of the valk is placed on them (no detents to hold the feet in it's extended position; if anyone has come up with a quick and painless solution for this, do tell) and the lack of detents on the back pack thrusters; they slide back in too easily... I may open up the back pack myself and add a small detent so the thrusters can lock in the retracted and deployed positions. Other than that, I'm happy with it. The damned thing IS beautiful. Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 I got a VF-0S upon it's first release, preordered from TMP. While the joints aren't as stiff as those on the 1/48s, they do hold up just fine on the one I have... dynamic poses don't pose any problems. The only issues I have with mine are the feet thrusters slide back into the legs when the weight of the valk is placed on them (no detents to hold the feet in it's extended position; if anyone has come up with a quick and painless solution for this, do tell) and the lack of detents on the back pack thrusters; they slide back in too easily... I may open up the back pack myself and add a small detent so the thrusters can lock in the retracted and deployed positions. Other than that, I'm happy with it. The damned thing IS beautiful. Graham said that the thruster pack would be fixed in the 2nd run. As for a feet lock, I was wondering if the future releases of the 0 will have one, since the production pics of the 0a show more clearance betwenn the feet and calves. I'm okay with the so called floppiness, BUT if Yamato change that I will have to buy a second 0S Quote
aaajin Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 Im a fighter fan of the OS....so, with or without the feet locks, this toy rocks. like hell I mean, ehem... Quote
Lightning Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 anybody wanna buy one? it's just missing the pitot spike that attaches to the nose...(I lost it somehow when I was transforming the first time) Quote
Nani?! Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) given the comments here, there's one thing that's clear. Just make everything TIGHT. In fact, make us get a work out transforming our valks. I personally don't see this as a QC issue (unless it can't stand up or raise it's arms even when it's holding nothing)... but many here include it in their lists if it's anything less than the 1/48 so take this down yamato... Just make it all bloody tight~ Everyone wins! Edited September 15, 2006 by Nani?! Quote
nightmareB4macross Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 given the comments here, there's one thing that's clear. Just make everything TIGHT. In fact, make us get a work out transforming our valks. I personally don't see this as a QC issue (unless it can't stand up or raise it's arms even when it's holding nothing)... but many here include it in their lists if it's anything less than the 1/48 so take this down yamato... Just make it all bloody tight~ Everyone wins! but not too tight. Quote
R_Deckard Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 My stealth is by far the tightest contruction of all my valks. When I first got it I thought something was wrong when transforming it because I really had to put some effort into it. That thing is solid enough to be compared to MP Optimus Prime although it still isn't that solid. Quote
Scream Man Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 actually i noticed the joints on my low viz 2 are also very tight. must have been later run valks. then again noe of my 48s are too loose. As for the BP thrusters on the 0S, I found that there IS apoint where they lock into place. dont force em, but u will find they clock in if u try. Quote
lechuck Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Well I got my vf-0s last thursday. Didn't realise Yamato started shrink wrapping the boxes. Can't tell if it's a 1st or 2nd run, but it suffers from loose joint syndrom. I'm beginning to think it doesen't really matter if 1st or 2nd run because all of the 1st issue vf-0s' will probably suffer from slighly loose joints. As I'm a fan of battroid mode I started tranforming it immediatly and sadly one of the rubber peaces popped out of the right shoulder. While this wasn't a problem to fix it still makes me a little mad because after speding over 100+ Euros on this thing I shouldn't be the one fixing it. The toy also looses a bit of it's "prestineness" after one has start removing peaces of plasitc to fix something. Random thoughts... - The achieved accuracy this valkyrie has for all tree forms is outstanding. Finally something that's not just about fighter mode. It's good to see they gave the other modes some emphasis too. - The sliding mechanism for the nose/cockpit part is innovative. To bad the people at yamato didn't think of this much earlier, would of also worked nicely for the vf-1. - One word: Magnets. Never has attaching fastpacks been easier... - IMO the backpack needs that latch back again. - Tranformation back into fighter mode is bit messy. The whole "align legs with arms and fists with backback" is not easy. Your basically blind when trying to fit the tabs of the legs with arms. It would probably be easier to align from viewing from top but this is hindered by the backpack, which cannot be folded over as there is that one flap on the bp that is stiff (no joint). The fix and loose joints aside I am overall happy and really like the vf-0s. Quote
kensei Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 Shrink wrapping is more of a retailer's personal touch. Yamato never shrink wraps them. Quote
anime52k8 Posted September 17, 2006 Posted September 17, 2006 - The sliding mechanism for the nose/cockpit part is innovative. To bad the people at yamato didn't think of this much earlier, would of also worked nicely for the vf-1. How? I've heard lots of people say the same thing, but after Staring at my 1/48 trying to rap my head around it I still cant see how the sliding mechanisum would in any way inprove the VF-1. Quote
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