Anyone Else Have Problems With Shipping Carriers?

[azrael]

I know this is a very old topic but i was wondering if anyone has had any difficulty with sending items

to either Argentina or Australia. Any problems sending stuff from the U.S to other countries?

*snip*

Well, it's partially their fault for not going with EMS. You should only offer EMS for international shipments. Sending it normal priority (or SAL) is often dead slow. It travels to the nearest airport until it lands in the country of where it should be. From there, it travels via ground. SAL shipments are send in loads. If the post office doesn't have enough to make a full load, they will hold off on shipping it. This part could take up to 2 weeks. It will be sent within the 2 weeks/14 days from the time you mail it, but it does not necessarily have to go before then. Once it gets to the country of delivery, it will travel by ground. The buyer in Argentina should wait an additional 1-2 weeks before asking where their stuff is. The guy in Australia is probably going to be your problem.

I have experienced this since I did order from HLJ.com and have it sent via SAL. It took just over 3 weeks for it to come. HLJ sent me the shipping notice and then a few weeks later, it showed up. I learned not to do that again.

[Macross73]

I use to order SAL from HLJ and never had a problem. I changed to EMS simply b/c of the value of the SOC

that were/are coming out. I'm hoping that its just a delay on the part of the other countries Postal Service. I

just dont want to be out the items and the payment as well. Whats really going to be annoying is, refunding the

$$ only to have the items show up at their door steps at some point in the future. i'm calling the Post Office on

Monday to get some kind of update.

[Excillon]

Explain

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phoenix01 had some great comments.

Back in the day unions protected exploited workers, now THEY exploit workers by creating a loby for their cause which usually cripples or totally destroys the company that employs the union employees. The idea always works for shortsighted people who think of themselves without thinking of the consequences of their actions. My favorite union story is where the employees (union) of United Airlines decided to purchase the company at managements request, as management wrongfully thought the employees were smart enough to take value in owning part of the business... They were wrong. The dumbass employees paid themselves so much the company had to file for bankruptcy and they lost their stock and their pensions. Haw Haw! Those retards got exactly what they deserved.

Often unions make demands that shut companies down, then the employees sit around and wonder what happened. Unions are the cancer on US business.

Now you let me tell all of you devoid people bashing Unions something. What the hell do you know? You sit here bashing on it, based on a few horror stories and some media brainwashing. I happen to be a machinist at a major aerospace/ heavy equipment supplier, and a union board member with the UAW. The union protects us and enables skilled workers like myself and others that we make 20 dollars and hour, instead of ten. It prevents us from being taken advantage of by corporate boards wanting to send my job off to China or Mexico. All I can see is that the people here have no clue what they're talking about. Someone said that "the union protects lazy workers"?! Well I absolutely f***ing dare you to come on out to where I'm at and say that to my face. I bust my ass and I've sweat and bled, literally, for my company and my union. And so have a lot of us there. Your opinions mean nothing when you sit on your ass behind a PC in your little cubicles and offices. Without me and my co-workers, your landing gear would snap off the minute your plane hit the ground. Hell, your pilots couldn't even fly the plane, because they'd have no instruments and gauges. The union is what keeps my family taken care of. I'm proud to be a part of the largest union in the US, and if you have a problem with that then like I said, come see me and we'll straighten it out. One thing I will not tolerate is people berating the lives of hardworking people who got together and decided they deserve more. And since I'm pretty sure the ones saying unions are a cancer have no clue what it's like to be on the shop floor on a daily basis, you can just shut your worthless, lazy, uninformed, and constant crap- spewing mouths. Morons...

[jenius]

Whoa, that pro-union rant sure was hostile. Macrossworld isn't a political forum. The anti-union stuff at least started on topic (the demise of UPS) but I'd say it sure snowballed from there. Let's just say that sometimes unions are great, sometimes they suck (the UFCW is worthless... I was one for many years). Often times, what constitutes greatness and sucktitude are purely subjective. I hope we can all manage to avoid getting this thread locked up by discussing that more.

Now, there was some USPS bashing in this thread, and I'm sure it was warranted, but I'd like to add a note that I love using the USPS. First, for receiving packages they're local. I complained when someone stole a few packages from my doorstep last year and now they won't deliver anything to me if no one is home to sign for the package. This is truly awesome and done at no additional charge. The people at the office near my work are always great and courteous and anytime someone requests insurance I use them. All other packages are shipped FedEx 5 day ground and I haven't had a single complaint yet there either (knocking on wood).

UPS I hate. They don't have a pick-up location near me and they always seem to try to drop off at the worst possible hour. I do everything I can to avoid shipping or receiving with them. One time they told me I had to pick up an item. I called and arranged a time to pick the item up. I showed up a bit earlier than my appointment only to be told they returned the item to the shipper. They acknowledged my appointment time and the best they could do was tell me "There must have been a mistake!" When I demanded some sort of reimbursement they told me I should try to get it from my vendor. I was so astonished I just let them know that my business would never be involved with their business again.

[eugimon]

at my last job, I dealt with UPS a lot... and my company had a decent sized contract with them. We shipped anywhere from 600- 1k packages a day with them. And while our rep was a decent guy, nobody from the operators to the facility managers ever gave a damn. half the time they lost a package, we would end up reshipping it at our cost in order to keep the client happy.

fedex, imo, is the same, only their operators kiss your ass more while they tell you they won't do anything to help you.

[Roy Focker]

Now you let me tell all of you devoid people bashing Unions something. What the hell do you know? You sit here bashing on it, based on a few horror stories and some media brainwashing. I happen to be a machinist at a major aerospace/ heavy equipment supplier, and a union board member with the UAW. The union protects us and enables skilled workers like myself and others that we make 20 dollars and hour, instead of ten. It prevents us from being taken advantage of by corporate boards wanting to send my job off to China or Mexico. All I can see is that the people here have no clue what they're talking about. Someone said that "the union protects lazy workers"?! Well I absolutely f***ing dare you to come on out to where I'm at and say that to my face. I bust my ass and I've sweat and bled, literally, for my company and my union. And so have a lot of us there. Your opinions mean nothing when you sit on your ass behind a PC in your little cubicles and offices. Without me and my co-workers, your landing gear would snap off the minute your plane hit the ground. Hell, your pilots couldn't even fly the plane, because they'd have no instruments and gauges. The union is what keeps my family taken care of. I'm proud to be a part of the largest union in the US, and if you have a problem with that then like I said, come see me and we'll straighten it out. One thing I will not tolerate is people berating the lives of hardworking people who got together and decided they deserve more. And since I'm pretty sure the ones saying unions are a cancer have no clue what it's like to be on the shop floor on a daily basis, you can just shut your worthless, lazy, uninformed, and constant crap- spewing mouths. Morons...

Well um gee Agent One's post is over a year old and he has been been. Kinda silly responding to it now. He can't respond back. On the other hand I being someone who works in a union can. From my personal experience that well it only is good for those who got it at the start. Glad you can make 20 bucks an hour. I sure loved reading my union manuals and seeing how the new and adjusted pay scales sorta screw out the new people of the same pay. Well I could still get the same pay in theory it just takes longer for me to reach that point. I also like the change in health insurance. Those hired after a certain date like me had to wait twice as long to get it then those before. Even at that point it a bad health plan. I've reached the point where I can upgrade my insurance. Funny thing if I had no job I could have gotten better insurance through the state. I wish I knew what the union got in exchange. As union board member I'm sure you're at a point where in a union actual gives you something. Not all the unions are as great as yours some are pretty self center were old guard have no problems selling out the next generation as they get to keep theirs. For the new generation in my union the difference between being in a union and the basic the fed forces all businesses to give workers is very thin.

Yeah senior union members are very pro-union but for the rest it's not always so sunny.

Now don't respond to this post for another year.

Back to the subject.

UPS they got some on sexy short shorts. A girl who was a part time package handler tired to recruit me to work their once. I got legs and I know how to use them but I don't want to be a sex object all of the time.

[Macross73]

The same UPS driver comes to my place and he is great. He arrives just about the same time when he has a

package for me. I prefer to have to sign for everything though. its just easier I think if I'm there to actually

recieve the package as opposed to haveing it left at the door. I've gone to the local Pick-up spot on 2 or 3

occasions and that hasn't been too bad. Its a bit of a hike but thats ok as long as i get my stuff. I just wish

everything were trackable - free of charge, so that it'd be easier to see that whatever was sent got to where it

was supposed to go.

edit: Unions are great as long as they work, the Union I belong too well... I could do without it, enough said on that topic

as for sexy legs yeah I'd love to see that but not on the guy that does the delivering at my place.

Edited December 3, 2006 by Macross73

[Excillon]

Well um gee Agent One's post is over a year old and he has been been. Kinda silly responding to it now. He can't respond back. On the other hand I being someone who works in a union can. From my personal experience that well it only is good for those who got it at the start. Glad you can make 20 bucks an hour. I sure loved reading my union manuals and seeing how the new and adjusted pay scales sorta screw out the new people of the same pay. Well I could still get the same pay in theory it just takes longer for me to reach that point. I also like the change in health insurance. Those hired after a certain date like me had to wait twice as long to get it then those before. Even at that point it a bad health plan. I've reached the point where I can upgrade my insurance. Funny thing if I had no job I could have gotten better insurance through the state. I wish I knew what the union got in exchange. As union board member I'm sure you're at a point where in a union actual gives you something. Not all the unions are as great as yours some are pretty self center were old guard have no problems selling out the next generation as they get to keep theirs. For the new generation in my union the difference between being in a union and the basic the fed forces all businesses to give workers is very thin.

Yeah senior union members are very pro-union but for the rest it's not always so sunny.

Now don't respond to this post for another year.

Back to the subject.

UPS they got some on sexy short shorts. A girl who was a part time package handler tired to recruit me to work their once. I got legs and I know how to use them but I don't want to be a sex object all of the time.

I never noticed Agent One's post until now. The point is that while Unions are big, not all the locals are bad. My local is a good one. It offers education, and the local President of our local is genuine in his persuit of a better life for his fellow members. Here's a quick story: 4 and half years ago, I was brought in as a 3 month temp making 11.80 an hour. I busted my ass in a peon position, and got hired on full time. Then, I was offered the chance to study with the Setup Technicians and MIG welders for a year, and now I make 23.47 an hour working in the R and D lab with the engineers. And I can thank my union, more directly the guys who took a peon under their wings and taught him everything they know. THAT is what unions are really about.

On the other note: I've never had a shipping problem with USPS. But then, I live in a town with 3000 people, so all the mail personnel are friendly. UPS did take a week and a half once to get me a Gundam kit I bought from an online store. But that's about the only problem I've had.

[KingNor]

I've never had any problem with UPS or FedEX, but my roommate has had multiple DHL problems including a ruined 3000 dollar computer that they apparently dropped in the ocean before delivering to him :-\

[kensei]

I used to live in southern California. I live in Paris, France right now.

..............vice, because we had to send it home by mail because it was overweight (British Airways only allows 23kg of luggage per person, we didn't know. American companies and Air France allow for something like 30kg or so, so we got it in the butt HARD and had to ship one of our luggages). *sigh* I hope the luggage makes it to us fine. I have a bad feeling about it...*sigh*

With Chronopost, did anyone save the picture of that totally decimated Q-Rau that TheFrenchOne got?

Edited December 3, 2006 by kensei

[KingNor]

With Chronopost, did anyone save the picture of that totally decimated Q-Rau that TheFrenchOne got?

heh i remember that, the Q looked like it exploded

[Wes]

Back to the subject.

UPS they got some on sexy short shorts. A girl who was a part time package handler tired to recruit me to work their once. I got legs and I know how to use them but I don't want to be a sex object all of the time.

This coming from the guy that's got Minmay's boobs featured as his avatar - you made my mom think I was looking at porn one time she came by while I was surfing MW.

But yeah on unions. My cousins were autoworkers under UAW too and they got so disgusted about how much of the shaft they got thru them that they quit and are now under different professions. You might have had good experiences with unions, like UPS for some, but others have not. Guess that's the running theme of this thread.

It seems like whenever I move to a new area, USPS goes from great to crappy, and this is the 3rd time it's happened. I don't get why this curse followes me around...

[KingNor]

thing about these kind of services is that individuals can make or break it. It's like saying an entire resturant chain has bad service because the one waiter you had sucked.

it only takes one idiot to break something, and the entire transport service bears the bad rep.

[Roy Focker]

Well my USPS service has changed for the worst.

Around two months ago I got a letter all torn up inisde a usps envelope with the message, "Oops are bad from the post office".

Last month I had packages sent to me that the mailman shoved and twisted in the mail box. They were books listed in good condition they were in fair condition by the time I got them. Funny thing is there are these large secured box were I live for stuff that doesnt fix this idiot tried to make them fit anyways.

Oh here's the kicker. My Grandmother died last month half way across the country. Pops sent me a letter with all the funeral related written material and local news papers article on it. The stuff came all torn up inside a usps envelope with the message, "Oops our bad from the post office." No I haven't told the old man stuff came torn to shredds.

Had great service before but these last few months it gotten pretty crappy.

[Macross73]

Thats Serious. I thinik i'd really have to geti in somebodies face about that.

[phoenix01]

I never noticed Agent One's post until now. The point is that while Unions are big, not all the locals are bad. My local is a good one. It offers education, and the local President of our local is genuine in his persuit of a better life for his fellow members. Here's a quick story: 4 and half years ago, I was brought in as a 3 month temp making 11.80 an hour. I busted my ass in a peon position, and got hired on full time. Then, I was offered the chance to study with the Setup Technicians and MIG welders for a year, and now I make 23.47 an hour working in the R and D lab with the engineers. And I can thank my union, more directly the guys who took a peon under their wings and taught him everything they know. THAT is what unions are really about.

On the other note: I've never had a shipping problem with USPS. But then, I live in a town with 3000 people, so all the mail personnel are friendly. UPS did take a week and a half once to get me a Gundam kit I bought from an online store. But that's about the only problem I've had.

You were supposed to wait a year. I did. LOL!

Sounds as if you might have been lucky and found one of the rare good unions. Congratulations.

phoenix01 - Union free since 2004.

[Mr March]

thing about these kind of services is that individuals can make or break it. It's like saying an entire resturant chain has bad service because the one waiter you had sucked.

it only takes one idiot to break something, and the entire transport service bears the bad rep.

I'd agree with that from a delivery end, but that's all. Indeed, a bad driver rep can mess up everything, like you say. But I have a real problem with several customer services that are found lacking at a given courier provider. Like my old post in this thread about DHL. Even having a good customer rep on the phone or in the driver's seat does little to improve my situation documented in my old post. DHL just has a lousy system overall and need's to pull it's socks up big time.

[Lynx7725]

My two cents!

I do not reside in US (or even the same continent), but do plenty of purchases on eBay and of course, HLJ. My experiences are as such:

I usually use SAL with HLJ, and I never really had a problem; from Japan to where I am, it's a bit slowish but I'm more or less assured the parcel will get to me. (Touch wood, I got a Zeongraphy Kampfer in the pipe now.)

I bought stuff on eBay from US, Canada, China (HK) and UK. So far, my experiences are that UK shipping takes the longest (distance), but may not be too bad in that it tends to get here.

HK, dubious; could be the sender's fault, but I got one parcel that was overdue by nearly a month. Once I had the tracking number, it seems that it was received by the HK post one month after the auction ended -- so it either was the sender lying through his teeth, or that the post office really did misplace the parcel.

US, usually I get stuff by USPS. Never had a problem, hopefully that would continue. I don't deal with USPS counter staff, but I don't remember seeing squashed packets/ parcels.. for the main, I think USPS is fairly ok. You should still insure parcels though, it's fairly cheap and worth the peace of mind.

Canada though, can be really slow, easily 50% again the USPS timing. What's of interest here though, is that I have a TNT parcel being delivered to me, so let's see their performance!

04 Dec 2006 19:20 Consignment Received At Transit Point

04 Dec 2006 21:21 Shipped From Originating Depot

05 Dec 2006 08:55 Import Received

05 Dec 2006 16:12 Arrived At Sending Depot

05 Dec 2006 17:38 Consignment Received At Transit Point

Hmm. I received an email notification from TNT late on the 4th, telling me that about 2 hours after colllection, it should be in the system. But it wasn't till about 12 hrs later that the item showed up in their system..

Took most of the night to get from the originating depot to the main processing depot, which is fair enough; it's two cities apart, nearly on two different sides of the country, so some lag is expected.

What's odd is that the item was stuck in processing for about 8 hours before it got to the Sending Depot. Seems to be just stuff going around in circles.

That's so far the movement. If you guys are interested, I can keep this updated.

[Dangaioh]

USPS: I went to 4 different office locations and found 2 that treats me as a person, and the lines are almost non-existent for me in Orlando. For those in Orlando, one of them is located near "Fashion Square Mall", this is one of the post office I go to, which is half way between my home and work, and conveniently located near the mall (that has a cool anime shop and a comic shop), target, and toys-r-us.

Fed-Ex, DHL, and UPS, I always go to their satellite shops that reside eiter in Staples, office depot or office max, never to one of the so-called branch location.

Edited December 6, 2006 by Dangaioh

[Sumdumgai]

heh i remember that, the Q looked like it exploded

Exploded, mangled, crunched, and every piece damaged beyond reasonable use as replacement parts. Stupid chronopost. And I'm serious about every piece of that Q-rau being damaged enough that you could not use any part of it as replacement pieces for another Q-rau. But I finally got a non-damaged Q-rau, so I'm happy.

But thankfully I don't have to put up with Chronospost anymore! I'm back in the States. Instead I get to rant about how DHL and USPS just drop the package on my doorstep and leaves without knocking.

Stuff shipped from France to the US gets mangled too. My mom recently had a package come in looking like it was used like a soccer ball...