akt_m Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) besides those in www.mahq.net are there any others? Edited June 21, 2005 by akt_m Quote
Radd Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 Wich version of the Vampire? The final, M3 version or the earlier Macross 7 version? I believe mahq lists them as two seperate Valkyries, but that's not totally correct. Either way, I believe most people just reuse the art found in the Design Works book, and other than screenshots from M3 or M7, that's all I can think of. Quote
Flaming Guantlet Posted June 21, 2005 Posted June 21, 2005 http://www.n2n2.com/OTM/ Be forwarned, the website is in chinese. With a little poking and a little patience you'll for find what you seek. Quote
Duke Togo Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 (edited) Nevermind... Edited June 22, 2005 by Duke Togo Quote
94medition Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 To get to VF-9 and VF-14 in http://www.n2n2.com/OTM/ VF-9 http://www.n2n2.com/OTM/mecha/mech.php?rqrf=vf-9 VF-14 http://www.n2n2.com/OTM/mecha/mech.php?rqrf=vf-14 Click on Gallery to see more pictures. Hope this help. Quote
promethuem5 Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 What are most of these obscure ones from? They aren't in animation, so where are they from? Quote
Noyhauser Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 What are most of these obscure ones from? They aren't in animation, so where are they from? This should explain for you the original concept for the designs http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/transl...cedvalkyrie.htm later on, Kawamori used these designs first as an inspiration for the Vartua mecha seen in Macross 7, then they were actually portrayed in the so so Dreamcast game, Macross M3 Quote
Tekkaman Blade Posted June 23, 2005 Posted June 23, 2005 So the Vampire is a later variatian of the VF-14 Hunter? Or is it the other way around? I'm pretty sure that I remember it was called Hunter in Macross M3. Quote
Noyhauser Posted June 23, 2005 Posted June 23, 2005 (edited) So the Vampire is a later variatian of the VF-14 Hunter? Or is it the other way around?I'm pretty sure that I remember it was called Hunter in Macross M3. well there are two versions, the VA-14 and the VF-14 Vampire. (this is according to the compendium. It seems that the VF-14 was first designed, however early in its development a parallel zentradi model was developed in parallel, which became the VA line. It had heavier armor, but a more powerful engine, thus preventing a sacrafice in performance. Edited June 23, 2005 by Noyhauser Quote
Lightning Posted June 23, 2005 Posted June 23, 2005 I love that VF-9 in Millia's colors....sweet valk that one is. Quote
Skull Leader Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 yeah, according to the compendium, the VF-14 and VA-14 ARE two different machines, just very similar. It's never specified... but I've long had a suspicion that the VA-14 was really more of a testbed for the larger engines that would soon become the standard in fighters like the VF-19 and 22. Quote
wolfx Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) BUMP! I was re-watching the M3 clip and realised that Max and Miria were using different mechs at the beginning and ending. (d'oh) At 1st i thought they were using the VF-4 throughout but wondered why the VF-4's battroid looked really weird at the end. Then it occured to me it wasn't the VF-4. Was about to start a new topic when i found this thread. I was feeling confused watching the video. Took some screenshots: The clearest animated form a VF-4 battroid we're ever gonna get: Cutlass in fighter mode, mid transformation and gerwalk mode: And the Vampire causing me confusion. Its fighter mode looks somewhat like the variable Glaug. The whole mecha lineup. WTF? VF-4 doesn't look like that?! Now i'm the wiser. Stupid me. Whoever wants the full sequence of pictures , good enough to make an animated gif or flash can get it here. http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2QFPZUDLGHKX0364GAUAOJTBI8 Edited March 8, 2006 by wolfx Quote
valk1j Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 The top two pics aren't of the VF-4, they look like the VF-5000B. Quote
the white drew carey Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 I just love the VF-9 Cutlass. I mean it. I think it's my favorite VF design. Quote
wolfx Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 The top two pics aren't of the VF-4, they look like the VF-5000B. 377811[/snapback] Geh?! Even more confuzzled. No wonder it doesn't quite look like a VF-4 in battroid mode. That means in that opening scene where i'm quite sure Max was using the VF-4, Miria wasn't using the VF-4. Gotta go home to check later. Whitedrewcarrey: In a way it looks kinda cute, almost like a JM. I'm not really fond of the newer VFs with the cockpit as the head though. Was the VF-9 called the VF-X-11 during prototype as described by MAHQ? Quote
JB0 Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 The top two pics aren't of the VF-4, they look like the VF-5000B. 377811[/snapback] Geh?! Even more confuzzled. No wonder it doesn't quite look like a VF-4 in battroid mode. That means in that opening scene where i'm quite sure Max was using the VF-4, Miria wasn't using the VF-4. Gotta go home to check later. Whitedrewcarrey: In a way it looks kinda cute, almost like a JM. I'm not really fond of the newer VFs with the cockpit as the head though. Was the VF-9 called the VF-X-11 during prototype as described by MAHQ? 377846[/snapback] I don't think any of them use the cockpit as the head. They have an obnoxious folding nosecone that buries it inside the chest, though. Quote
wolfx Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Oh, what i meant was I didn't like the designs where the nosecone of the air craft forms the head making them look like pinheads. In fact the VF-9's head isn't the nosecone but it still has a pointy head. Quote
JB0 Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Oh, what i meant was I didn't like the designs where the nosecone of the air craft forms the head making them look like pinheads.In fact the VF-9's head isn't the nosecone but it still has a pointy head. 377928[/snapback] Ah. The Pope-heads! They do look goofy. Quote
the white drew carey Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Actually, the VF-9's cockpit is in roughly the same place as the VF-1. It doesn't have a heat shield, though. Instead, the two forward canards fold over the cockpit. Quote
azrael Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Actually, the VF-9's cockpit is in roughly the same place as the VF-1. It doesn't have a heat shield, though. Instead, the two forward canards fold over the cockpit. 378042[/snapback] Not the canards, the wings. Quote
honneamise Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 I´d love to build a model of the VF-9, all the lineart in The Kawamori Design book plus all the great pics contain almost enough info to do it, just: where the heck is the location of the nosewheel? The VF-X-10 has a bulge under the cockpit and there is enoughspace for the gear, but the VF-9 has the "shoulder" gunpod in its place. Does the gear really retract INTO the gunpod? There is a sketch of the FV-9 that shows the tire right under the pod but no gear struts are shown. Are there any views in the game where you can see a VF-9 with the gear down? Quote
the white drew carey Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Actually, the VF-9's cockpit is in roughly the same place as the VF-1. It doesn't have a heat shield, though. Instead, the two forward canards fold over the cockpit. 378042[/snapback] Not the canards, the wings. 378095[/snapback] Well I'll be a monkey's uncle! Quote
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