Goshawk Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 ok Im goona ask a dumb question here but what are etching parts? I see them all the time on ebay and I have never heard of them before, but then Im not a HUGE modeler so..... Quote
Less than Super Ostrich Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 Photo etch are small detail bits made out of metal sheet. They do small detail bits in metal because resin/plastic just can't get that thin without breaking. Photo-etch often needs to be bent... and is generally glued on with CA (Super Glue). Personally, I hate PE, since I always lose the pieces and never can get the pieces where I want them... and i end up using too much CA and have my hands stuck together at the end. Quote
Grayson72 Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 (edited) Photo etch are small detail bits made out of metal sheet. They do small detail bits in metal because resin/plastic just can't get that thin without breaking. Photo-etch often needs to be bent... and is generally glued on with CA (Super Glue). Personally, I hate PE, since I always lose the pieces and never can get the pieces where I want them... and i end up using too much CA and have my hands stuck together at the end. That about sums up my experience with PE, another problem is the parts still want to fall off even with the CA. I'm getting better though. Edited June 17, 2005 by Grayson72 Quote
007-vf1 Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 so what's the problem with Premature Ejac....? Oh you mean Photo Etched... my problem is not as much as the bending or glueing is the braking while bending of the insignifical little suckers that then fall to the ground to almost never be found... May be a good way to find them would be using a magnet? Quote
bhop Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 I guess your question has been answered, but if you'd like an idea of what Photo Etch parts look like on a model.. here's my Tiger tank before paint, which is covered in PE. It's the brass metal stuff.. http://www.bhop73.com/main/images/models/p....asp?pic=tiger3 Quote
Grayson72 Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 Whoa! nice man, I'm gonna get PE tips from you. Quote
Goshawk Posted June 18, 2005 Author Posted June 18, 2005 Dude nice job on the tank. And yes I like thank everyone that explained it to me. I didnt relize how much out of modeling I was, but I never got in so deep before either so... Andy Quote
THOR Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 Hello, Magnets won't help pick up brass PE out of the carpet (only works on steel/iron). I place a piece of window screen or a thin dress sock and cover my shop vac hose with it and a rubber band. Ususally I find all kinds of parts stuck on the end of the hose. Hmmm.... Lightly rough the mating surface of the PE and the model up before applying glue. The glue needs a rough surface instead of a smooth surface to hold onto especially on the PE surface. Quote
HWR MKII Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 Bhop did you paint that tiger yet? If you havnt i have a real good pic of the firing leads for the turret mounted smoke dischargers. I can send it to you next weekend when i get back to the UK Quote
bhop Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 (edited) Bhop did you paint that tiger yet? If you havnt i have a real good pic of the firing leads for the turret mounted smoke dischargers. I can send it to you next weekend when i get back to the UK Yeah, it's been finished for awhile. I've even entered it in a local contest already, the Valley Con. It took first in the WWII armor category. Needless to say, that's a happy thing.. heh (sorry if i'm hijacking this thread) the rest of the pics can be seen here if anyone's interested (just click on the tiger thumb...the last one): http://www.bhop73.com/main/models_m.shtml Edited June 18, 2005 by bhop Quote
Berttt Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 Nice tank Bhop. If I may, how do you get all those cool looking scratches? They look great, and it is something I would like to try on my Spiderbug. Cheers, Berttt Quote
HWR MKII Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 With that color scheme you could have made it into #131. the only tiger captured intact. The english own it right now and its said its the only running tiger1 in the world. The beast looks awesome, love the finishig style. makes me want to make a 4th tiger when i get home. Guess ill have to get the new DML/Dragon one with all the options. Quote
bhop Posted June 18, 2005 Posted June 18, 2005 If I may, how do you get all those cool looking scratches? They look great, and it is something I would like to try on my Spiderbug. The chips are all painted with Vallejo acrylic by hand. here's a tutorial online: http://www.track-link.net/gallery/3014 With that color scheme you could have made it into #131. the only tiger captured intact. The english own it right now and its said its the only running tiger1 in the world. Yeah, i'm pretty familiar with 131 at the Bovington museum. The kit came with the decals for it, but I didn't want to make that one since it's got a history that everyone knows and I could be more artistic with my weathering, (since I like to keep my "real" models as accurate as possible). 112 is from the same Battalion in Tunisia, but I couldn't find any info on it's history. I'm also waiting for the Dragon Late Tiger which should be out soon. If it's anything like the early that they released, it'll be awesome. If you're interested, here's a site that has a video of the #131 in action, from the Bovington Museum's Tank Day Festival, or whatever it's called.. heh. It loads kinda slow for me, but it's cool to watch if you're a Tiger nerd like I am. http://www.tigerwerk.com/ Quote
HWR MKII Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 I have my own video of 131 actually. The thing backfires like mad since the exauhst manifolds are shot to pieces. The day i was filming it they also discovered arterwards that the magneto on the right side of the motor was shot. The sound of it still leaves me disappointed in tamiyas efforts on the 1/16 scale one. A king tiger and tiger 1 sound way diferent because they have 2 different exauhst systems. Tmiya recorded a king tiger and used the sound on te MK1. Quote
bhop Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 I have my own video of 131 actually. The thing backfires like mad since the exauhst manifolds are shot to pieces. The day i was filming it they also discovered arterwards that the magneto on the right side of the motor was shot. The sound of it still leaves me disappointed in tamiyas efforts on the 1/16 scale one. A king tiger and tiger 1 sound way diferent because they have 2 different exauhst systems. Tmiya recorded a king tiger and used the sound on te MK1. You were there? Exciting.. I would've loved to have seen it. I'd like to just go to the museum, but the chances of me visiting the UK are pretty slim.. at least for a long while. Quote
HWR MKII Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 Ill see if i can get you some good pics of it in 2 weeks when im back in the UK. ill be taking my father and my father in law there. If its a good day they may have it out and running i heard they fixed the magneto problem. The way you finished your model is exactly how beat up 131 was when it was captured. It only looks that good now because the completely restored it. Quote
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