jorawar_b Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Hey guy I finally built my 1/72 Tread, I tried some of the weathering look, I don't know if its the right way, please be easy on me, this is my first time. 1. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC04620.jpg 2. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC04619.jpg 3. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC04618.jpg 4. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC04616.jpg 5. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC04615.jpg Quote
Chas Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) All in all I'd say it looks good (pics are a litttle small so kind of hard to see details but overall impression is good.) The one problem I've always had with weathering mecha that are variable (regardless of if the model is variable) is trying to figure out what the wear patterns would be, given how the thing transforms, i.e. which parts rub against which? And also the weathering pattern would probably look inconsistant in the different modes. What I mean here is (using your Tread as an example) when it is in it's aircraft mode some of the weathering may be in a direction which differs from the direction of flight because some weathering takes place in the robot form in-which the various panels are in a different alignment and configuration (i.e. what was once horizontal is now vertical etc) Anyway none of that is realy relevent just something that's kinda puzzeled me for a while. If you could post some bigger pics it might be easier to get some constructive critique, and some ideas of what to work on for your next model. But all in all I'd say well done. (but I'm no expert! LOL ) Charles. (edit=Typo) Edited June 10, 2005 by Chas Quote
jenius Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) I'm also no expert (at all, in any capacity) but I would say there are some areas that look like they could use paneling. Paneling seems to be a good way to then judge how your weathering should look. I agree with Chas, we need close-ups! Edit: On second thought, maybe paneling would look horrible since there isn't much detail. Edited June 10, 2005 by jenius Quote
nightmareB4macross Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Jarowar, What on earth were you thinking???!!!??? You really should get RID of that monstrosity..... .......and send it my way. I swear I'll dispose of properly. Just kidding, looks good to me. Still, you do need larger pics. Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 10, 2005 Author Posted June 10, 2005 Thanks for the input guys, I have always wanted to master the weathering look, I will try to get some close ups, what is paneling? I tried to figure out what would patterns would look good in what mode, but at some point I got confused. I am still at the point were I can strip the paint and start all over again, can you guys post some pictures of paneling, thanks for the help. The Tread is my favorite mecha, next to the AJAC. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 I like it!!! Didn't know there was a 1/72 Tread. Quote
Chas Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 panel lining is simply a process by which the lines on the model, which represent the recessed point where different panels come together on the 'real full-sized' item the model represents, are darkened in order to set them off from the rasied flat surface which forms the 'skin' of the vehicle. This is done because in 'real-life' these recessed grooves would tend to collect dirt, grease and what have you and thus be darker in appearence. There are various techniques for achieving this. In fact there have been a number of threads recently about this very question - namely how to do panel lining - plus it is a very talked about topic in the scale modelling world. For a good place to start try cheking out the Tools'n'Tips section at www.aircraftresourcecenter.com here http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/ Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 10, 2005 Author Posted June 10, 2005 I have a Alpha/Beta kit for sale on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...5980872605&rd=1 I have a total of 4 1/72 alpha/beta kits, this is the one I don't need. The Tread was very hard to find and it thank the person who sold it to me, this is my favorite mecha. I am going to strip it tonight and re paint it, I bought a set of tamiya paints. Quote
Chas Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Why are you going to do that? it looks fine the way it is. You don't need to strip it in order to do the lanel lines. Just put a sealer over top of the paint ( a clear coat like future or something) and then try using an oil or acrylic panel lining technique then when your satisfied another clear coat to seal the lines and then a dull coat if you want a matte finish. I don't see why you would strip it and repaint. what is it you are unhappy with? Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 10, 2005 Author Posted June 10, 2005 I bought this tamiya paint, it is the perfect light blue, the paint I used on the kit was a testors, so it has a little gloss on it, but the tamiya is so perfect and flat, I used it on my alpha/beta kit and it came out perfect. The Tamiya paint has always been perfect for me, the other reason is that I can apply a single coat and still get more detail. Chas, you have made me see that this kit can be a lot better so for that I thank you so much, I am begining to see what you mean about the panel's and lines, I want to do it over again and then bring it back to you, this time with closer pic's I will add a picture of the Tread in fighter mode later tonight. Thanks a lot to everyone who has responded so far. Quote
promethuem5 Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 I wouldnt strip it, it looks pretty damn good. You managed to weather the white alot better than I have ever managed (I can do everything else, just not white ) Quote
wwwmwww Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 The Tread is my favorite mecha, next to the AJAC. You have GREAT taste my friend. The Tread is my favorite mecha too. I must ask... (and I'm sure this is a studip question) what is an AJAC? There is only one vehicle that trumps the Tread in my opinion and that is the Land Master from the movie "Damnation Alley". Now WHY has no one EVER made a kit of that? Carl Quote
wwwmwww Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Didn't know there was a 1/72 Tread. There are 3. http://www.macrossworld.com/mospeada/_tread_models.htm Carl Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Didn't know there was a 1/72 Tread. There are 3. http://www.macrossworld.com/mospeada/_tread_models.htm Carl Thanks for the info Carl! It's been a while since I don't check the model section Do you have any info of this kit? Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 For all of us "Tread" lovers Don't know the author so I can't give proper credit! Quote
wwwmwww Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) I have a Alpha/Beta kit for sale on ebay:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...5980872605&rd=1 I have a total of 4 1/72 alpha/beta kits, this is the one I don't need. The Tread was very hard to find and it thank the person who sold it to me, this is my favorite mecha. I am going to strip it tonight and re paint it, I bought a set of tamiya paints. Cool... One question/comment though. The New Type hobbies tread was manufactured by a store (which I think is now closed) out in California. I find it just a little odd that you can trace it back to Japan. However I'm sure some of them did make it over there. My first thought after reading that it was from Japan was that you might of had a Monocraft kit. They were made in Japan. However looking at your directions I'd say you've got the New Type kit. Could you post a picture of your box? A little history if anyone is interested. The owner of New Type Hobbies and Toys bought the master Monocraft used to make their kit. It was in rough shape so he fixed it up a bit and added the ability to build the Tread as a stand alone kit. However he never licensed the kit. I've talked to him and his claim is that he used the same license Monocraft had. However Monocraft's license was only good in Japan and New Type sold them here in the states. Also you never see the sticker on the New Type kits that are on the Monocraft kits. The improvements New Type made make theirs a better kit in my opinion however if you get right down to it, its a recast of the Monocraft kit. Atleast it used the same master. Just a little info, Carl Edited June 10, 2005 by wwwmwww Quote
wwwmwww Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) Thanks for the info Carl! You are welcome... It's been a while since I don't check the model section That's not the model section... that's Carl's corner. Do you have any info of this kit? I think that's the RETPPU kit seen here. That picture you posted has been around a while and I think its too old to be any of the other EAGER kits I'm aware of. There was one other EAGER kit available here in the states which I think wasn't licensed however I never got one while they were available. It's the last kit listed here: http://www.artemisgames.com/robotech/Resea...ada/Models.html Anyone know if Hot Goblin Modeling Garage Kit is still around in some form? Oh... and something else I should point out. See the "Lark Garage Kit" of the 1/100 Legioss and Tread? That IS the MonoCraft kit. I've seen it elsewhere called the MonoCraft/Lark kit. The 1/100 scaling info is wrong. That came from a typo in the same magazine that picture of the kit was grabbed from. Note the Lark kit is listed at 5800 yen. Check out the price of the MonoCraft kit (lower left corner). Carl Edited June 11, 2005 by wwwmwww Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 11, 2005 Author Posted June 11, 2005 Carl, Its been a while since I talked to you, last time you showed me one of these kits on ebay japan, I was trying to get a hold of you when I bought this 1/72 kit, but I lost your e-mail. By the way everyone, carl is one of the coolest people on this forum. Anyways, I was so happy that I bought this kit, I felt like I was a little kid again, I just wanted to thank you Carl for taking the time out to help me try to get a TREAD. The AJAC was a variable copter from the southern cross series. Quote
JoLe727 Posted June 11, 2005 Posted June 11, 2005 Nice collection, Carl. I too am Mospeada fan. I recently bought Monocraft kit, but it doesn't come with the decal. Does yours come with decal? Btw, thanks for the information on Legioss&Tread kits. Now I have to search for these. Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 11, 2005 Author Posted June 11, 2005 Guys, I can get access to the original decal kit, or a scanned copy of it, is there anyone on this forum who can make the decals? Quote
RT junkie Posted June 11, 2005 Posted June 11, 2005 If anyone can make those decals, I'd pick up 2 copies! I've tried to make my own decals in the past, but since my printer can't produce white ink, I'm at a loss. Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 11, 2005 Author Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) Here are some pictures of my Tread in low viz color's, I am not done yet 1. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC01575.jpg 2. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC01574.jpg 3. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC01573.jpg 4. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...me/DSC01572.jpg Edited June 11, 2005 by jorawar_b Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 11, 2005 Author Posted June 11, 2005 Here are the decals for the kit, hope this is useful for others 1. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/truf...treaddecals.jpg Quote
orguss01 Posted June 11, 2005 Posted June 11, 2005 What happened to your auction,,,,i was just going to suggest..... like six memberes get together, buy this kit, and get it repo'd ....... Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 11, 2005 Author Posted June 11, 2005 I still have it, I was actually thinking of another color set up, this way I have all three color's and one low viz. I ran into some low viz decals from a 1/72 model kit. Quote
wwwmwww Posted June 11, 2005 Posted June 11, 2005 By the way everyone, carl is one of the coolest people on this forum.The AJAC was a variable copter from the southern cross series. Thank you... you are too kind. Thanks for the info on the AJAC. I am familiar with it as I though, I'd just forgotten it's name. If you ever want my email address feel free to PM me. I'm no longer with TI so the email address you see over at Carl's corner is no longer good and Shawn just hasn't had the time yet to take it down. Carl Quote
wwwmwww Posted June 11, 2005 Posted June 11, 2005 Nice collection, Carl. I too am Mospeada fan. I recently bought Monocraft kit, but it doesn't come with the decal. Does yours come with decal? No, the MonoCraft didn't come with any decals. That was something added to the kit by New Type. However my MonoCraft kit did come with several very nice sheets of line art. Did yours? I'm not sure if that was originally with the kit or not. By the way, where did you get your MonoCraft kit? I've only ever seen one other besides mine in all my years of looking. That truely is a very rare find. The one I've got I found on eBay years ago and I don't think I've ever seen this kit on Yahoo Japan. Carl Quote
JoLe727 Posted June 11, 2005 Posted June 11, 2005 Nice collection, Carl. I too am Mospeada fan. I recently bought Monocraft kit, but it doesn't come with the decal. Does yours come with decal? No, the MonoCraft didn't come with any decals. That was something added to the kit by New Type. However my MonoCraft kit did come with several very nice sheets of line art. Did yours? I'm not sure if that was originally with the kit or not. By the way, where did you get your MonoCraft kit? I've only ever seen one other besides mine in all my years of looking. That truely is a very rare find. The one I've got I found on eBay years ago and I don't think I've ever seen this kit on Yahoo Japan. Carl I bought it directly from a member here. As for the sheet of line art, I think it's included, but I will check again when I get home. (I am at work ) Quote
wwwmwww Posted June 12, 2005 Posted June 12, 2005 Since we were talking about the line art that came with the Monocraft kit here is what was included with mine. Carl Quote
NERV Posted June 12, 2005 Posted June 12, 2005 looks good but i wudntve used a thread kit for a fist time weathering Quote
macroadster Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 Good job on the first try. You might want to add different shading of blue and grey to add realism to Thread. I was trying out Macmaster's brush painting tip last weekend. Here is the result of the AFC-01H Legioss, not quite as good as Macmaster's battlepods, but I learn a lot.. Quote
jorawar_b Posted June 20, 2005 Author Posted June 20, 2005 I am selling two of my alpha beta kits, I just realized that I have way to many of them, hope someone buys them. Quote
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