Mercurial Morpheus Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 You answered your own damn question, why bother watching it if you're only going to watch the dub. True, ADV does make some pretty sad dubs(yet they strangely have a following). Though the commentary is a laugh riot in how lame it is.
Gui Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 I watched it raw about 12 years ago and found it was great: I'm an unconditional fan since
Hikuro Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 Personally if you compared Streamline with ADV's new dub, the streamline blows it away in comparison to acting and dailouge. But still are roughly bad. Not too mention you gotta watch Parts 1 and 2 to understand the story completely and what happens or happened to everyone. Part 3 is sorta like "Uhhh...you know I'm pretty bored lets watch this." To only get a few good deals of neat action then after that it starts to blow. Plus I thought it had an interesting twist that not everything can be a happy ending.
chrono Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 I think it's that his art is no longer suited to today's over-simplified anime visuals. The reason his designs got "trashed about" in M7 is because they had to hire another designer, Katsura Kenichi, to re-do them all for the animation.I'm pretty sure that's what's gonna happen this time, too. In fact, I haven't seen his designs in motion at all since, what, Macross II?? Or was Gundam War in the Pocket after that? Anyway, recently his stuff has only been seen on still-image media like dating games, illustrations and manga because it takes too much work to get them to move. Noticed the ugly(fugly) simplifacation of the newer anime too, huh. I'm still wondering why they stopped using black shadows. It's hard to tell whether it's the cost(time) involved with making a detailed anime, the lacking of skilled talent(across the board), or the style change that seemed to happen when computers became dominant for anime work(alot of the current stuff reminds me of crisp watercolors). Frankly I think it's the lack of skill that prevents his works from becoming anime. Damn I want more of his work in manga!
Renato Posted June 9, 2005 Posted June 9, 2005 Damn I want more of his work in manga! Well, he is doing a Gundam manga at the moment called "Ecole du ciel" or something. If that's your cup of tea (not mine, though). I reccommend Cherish and Reverb, they're both one-offs.
chrono Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Damn I want more of his work in manga! Well, he is doing a Gundam manga at the moment called "Ecole du ciel" or something. If that's your cup of tea (not mine, though). I reccommend Cherish and Reverb, they're both one-offs. GEK! He's drawing Gundam! Oh well gotta pay the bills somehow. One-offs of what type? GN's or single chapter story's?
USMCBebop Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Â BSG style retelling... Uh huh, you mean make MZ23 politically correct????
Renato Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Damn I want more of his work in manga! Well, he is doing a Gundam manga at the moment called "Ecole du ciel" or something. If that's your cup of tea (not mine, though). I reccommend Cherish and Reverb, they're both one-offs. GEK! He's drawing Gundam! Oh well gotta pay the bills somehow. One-offs of what type? GN's or single chapter story's? One-offs as in each is a one-volume only manga. GNs, if you like, but they are both collections of short stories, not necessarily related.
Gui Posted June 10, 2005 Posted June 10, 2005 Ecole du Ciel's pretty cool IMO: I recommend it for the ones who want to know what happened during UC 0085, a key period of the UC time-line
zeus the zentran Posted June 12, 2005 Posted June 12, 2005 Personally I hope it's not a remake.I hope they tell about the events before PT.3 I hope they get the original voice actress that played Eve back.I keep frogetting her name but she blows Mara Ijima out of the water in my view.I'm glad Mikimoto's back doing animation too.The anime community needs him back because lately character designs for a lot of anime has been dull to me.
Beltane70 Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 Miyasato Kumi was the one who played Eve in parts 1 & 2. That was her only role in anime. She also released 3 albums back in the late 80s. As far as I know, she hasn't done any work since then. I heard a rumor some years ago that she only did those works to earn money for school or something of the like.
Hikuro Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 So any new info as of late? or did this thing just pretty much die.
Renato Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 I was hoping talk of this would resurface in the advent of the Yamato Garland's release. Alas... Seems it went the way of the Tatu anime movie.
terry the lone wolf Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) I can only see them do a re-imagining MZ23 because of prt.3 that story is pretty much done. I wouldn't totally mind and maybe this time around they never find Earth. I never saw the Streamline version but yeah most of the actors in ADV's pretty much suck. Eventhough, I did like Yui; she sounded all nice'n slurmty. Just the way I like my girls! Ha! Edited March 14, 2006 by terry the lone wolf
USMCBebop Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 So is MZ PtIII worth buying? I've heard mixed feelings about it and I'm hesitant to buy a copy.
terry the lone wolf Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 So is MZ PtIII worth buying? I've heard mixed feelings about it and I'm hesitant to buy a copy. 380638[/snapback] I taped my copy on the Anime Network. I liked it but I wouldn't spend $25 on the DVD.
Ginrai Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 Megazone 23 III is not part three, for the record, the III is read "the third", just like other anime like Lupin III or Armitage III, despite what ADV will tell you. It's a two part OAV sequel made quite a bit later than the other Megazones. Like a lot of 90's OAV sequels to 80's anime, it kind of goes off on a weird tangent. Think Orguss 02. I don't think it's -bad-, but it's not as good as Megazone 23 Part 1 or Part 2. It's really cyberpunk, has very little of the original cast of characters, and a really different feel. But it is directed by Shinji Aramaki (and Kenichi Yatagai, Macross II's director) and it does have some of that Aramaki feel, but it also has a lot of that 90's OAV sequel 'eh' to it. There's also some badly animated sequences where apparently due to time or budget problems they only have the key frames animated. Apparently Itano was insanely furious about this. Fits with Itano's extreme personality, plus the sequences animated by him look -fabulous-. III is a bit of a mixed bag, but worth seeing if you're at all into cyberpunk or want more Eve songs, or are interested in seeing some really badass Itano fight scenes. Especially the fight between the EX-Garland and the Original Garland at the end of episode two. That fight rules. I love Itano. Also there's some digs at the Akira film in III -- I guess the Artmic guys felt it owed a lot to Megazone 23, and I can't really blame them. The character named Akira is a Johnny come lately poseur who dies ignomiously...
Ginrai Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) I reccommend Cherish and Reverb, they're both one-offs.GEK! He's drawing Gundam! Oh well gotta pay the bills somehow. 304296[/snapback] I don't see what's so weird about Mikimoto doing Gundam. He did the character designs for Gundam 0080: War In The Pocket. Edited March 15, 2006 by Ginrai
JELEINEN Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 So is MZ PtIII worth buying? I've heard mixed feelings about it and I'm hesitant to buy a copy. 380638[/snapback] Skip it.
Ginrai Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 So is MZ PtIII worth buying? I've heard mixed feelings about it and I'm hesitant to buy a copy. 380638[/snapback] Skip it. 380664[/snapback] Gee, Jeleinen, thanks for that enlightening opinion. Do you think you could take two seconds out of your no doubt busy schedule to tell us -why- you think that? What's the point of a discussion if you just blurt out two word proclamations without any reasoning?
JELEINEN Posted March 16, 2006 Posted March 16, 2006 So is MZ PtIII worth buying? I've heard mixed feelings about it and I'm hesitant to buy a copy. 380638[/snapback] Skip it. 380664[/snapback] Gee, Jeleinen, thanks for that enlightening opinion. Do you think you could take two seconds out of your no doubt busy schedule to tell us -why- you think that? What's the point of a discussion if you just blurt out two word proclamations without any reasoning? 380688[/snapback] Actually, I didn't have time to make a longer post then. I will now though. First off, it's a completely unnecessary sequal. The end of 2 pretty much wraps things up quite well. Secondly, and even more importantly, the big reveal at the end pretty much craps all over the conclusion of 2 (trying not to spoil here, so please forgive my vagueness). If you can see it for free, it's not going to melt your brain or anything, but it's not worth going after and it's certainly not worth purchasing.
USMCBebop Posted March 18, 2006 Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) So is MZ PtIII worth buying? I've heard mixed feelings about it and I'm hesitant to buy a copy. 380638[/snapback] Skip it. 380664[/snapback] Gee, Jeleinen, thanks for that enlightening opinion. Do you think you could take two seconds out of your no doubt busy schedule to tell us -why- you think that? What's the point of a discussion if you just blurt out two word proclamations without any reasoning? 380688[/snapback] Actually, I didn't have time to make a longer post then. I will now though. First off, it's a completely unnecessary sequal. The end of 2 pretty much wraps things up quite well. Secondly, and even more importantly, the big reveal at the end pretty much craps all over the conclusion of 2 (trying not to spoil here, so please forgive my vagueness). If you can see it for free, it's not going to melt your brain or anything, but it's not worth going after and it's certainly not worth purchasing. 380844[/snapback] Thanks to all who took the time to respond. Like I said "mixed feelings" and (now) "it's okay" is all I've heard and those seem to be the majority. While I should form my own opinion on this MZ movie, all those opinions suggest is that it's not worth buying. Maybe a friend has a copy and I can borrow it. Edited March 18, 2006 by USMCBebop
USMCBebop Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 I know this is old news, but it looks like the new MZ never came out! What happened?
TangledThorns Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 I suspect it ended up being that Playstation game that came out a few years after the announcement.
Keith Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 God damnit, you b4 careful when necro-bumping, I'm getting too old for this level of false excitement.
daBlah! Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 Was just about to drop kick the phone level of necro'ing right here ha.
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