GRAND CANNON Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Hoping to check out the Kennedy while in Boston this weekend and they have an F-35 on-deck. (Does she have any Super Hornets?) I know some of you guys are really into detailed pics of aircraft and was wondering if there were any requests. Plan on Sunday morning and hoping I don't get rained-out, any other members in the Boston-area going to be able to go? She'll be heading to Fleet Week in NYC next weekend, too. Here's hoping Mama Nature cooperates...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Togo Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Seamen on deck, watch your step! This may get slippery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Seamen on deck, watch your step! This may get slippery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaming Guantlet Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Seamen on deck, watch your step! This may get slippery... I don't doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWR MKII Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 he he squiddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 There's one thing aboard sea life on a Naval ship that I feared. "Jellyfish," for those in the know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWR MKII Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Why do you think i joined the USAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Cause you wanted to be in the Chair Force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 But yeah, looks cool. I saw a super bug at an airshow, on the ground. Doesn't look too shabby, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWR MKII Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 No chairs in sght when your slamming GBU24s uxi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Johnathan Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Heck yeah I'd like to see more pics of the F-35. What's it doing there? Everytime I hear about it, it's the perpetual 'several years away' from coming into service. Is it even a Navy version? I assume it isn't going to be flying...? And if there's any F-14s' still aboard, let's see them. They won't be around much longer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddhafabio Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 isnt the Kennedy a training carrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaker Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 The JFK is a full fledged Fleet CVN, but then again, I'm not in the Navy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobber Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 (edited) Heck yeah I'd like to see more pics of the F-35. What's it doing there? Everytime I hear about it, it's the perpetual 'several years away' from coming into service. Is it even a Navy version? I assume it isn't going to be flying...? And if there's any F-14s' still aboard, let's see them. They won't be around much longer.... There is a Navy version, but I've never seen it. Every show shows the Airforce or Marine version.Not sure if the one pictured is the Navy version or not. Chris Edit: After looking at the picture again it does not appear to be the Naval version...the langing gear isn't beefy enough. Edited May 21, 2005 by Dobber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight26 Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Hey the JFK, I did the CSSQT for RAM on that ship, check out my launchers if you can, forward port sponson and aft starboard. That F-35 is quite obviously the Air Force version, the wing span is too small, the landing gear too narrow to be the navy bird. Also it doesn't have the VTOL hump of the Marine JSF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF5SS Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Its not any version of the F-35 in particular as the thing was just a mock-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRAND CANNON Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 Saw the RAM launcher on the forward-port side yesterday from the opposite shore. A mock-up? Hmmmm..... interesting. So it's not even and actual airworthy aircraft? That bites... Oh, and she just came back from the Iraq ops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Leader Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Yeah, VF has the rights of it, this isn't much more than a shell of a F-35. I've seen some other pics of the carrier as it was steaming in to port with this thing on the deck. It definately raised some eyebrows, but anyone with even a little aircraft knowledge will (upon inspection) see it's not real (no engine or ANYTHING) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddsun1 Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 lol, it looks even smaller and more toy-like than the movie-prop jet pictured on a carrier deck in another thread--for a god-awful-looking Mac Plus ripoff of a movie that will remain unnamed here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRAND CANNON Posted May 24, 2005 Author Share Posted May 24, 2005 Well. I got on Sunday morning with my older digital cam and a very low battery , but was able to get a few pics of what was pretty much on overisized pinewood derby entry : (of not was the silly? sensor fairing under the nose....for looks or actually on the real version?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Its just a mock up right? Not even a prototype airframe sans engine? The canopy gap looks as bad as a Dragon Warbird Diecast. BTW, did they ever explain why they did not put a 'bubble' canopy on this bird? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFT Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 There was a discussion about it deep in the huge aviation thread and the feeling was that it wasnt' needed as the JSF's main enemy would be SAMs. Better that it's a touch stealthier (and faster) and doesn't get shot at in the first place than has good visibility seems to be the philosophy. that said, It's never a good idea to design a "fighter" where you can't see someone on your six. I guess, when it ever sees service, that we'll find out if the right call was made. That may be a mockup, but it it full-size? if so, I never really realised just how small it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coota0 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 (edited) that said, It's never a good idea to design a "fighter" where you can't see someone on your six. I guess, when it ever sees service, that we'll find out if the right call was made. I'm applying for OCS for next summer, I reeeeally hope I don't get to find out if the bubble canopy was a bad idea for the for the board Edited May 24, 2005 by Coota0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 The JFK is a full fledged Fleet CVN, but then again, I'm not in the Navy. I think it is CV. The "N" denotes as a nuclear carrier which the Kennedy is not. I have a buddy flying f-18s on the Kennedy. I think I will send him an email about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Any modern day fighter whos main mission is to destroy fighters as a priority should have good rearward visibility. I tend to think the JSF is just a F-117 successor with better defensive capabilities. In no way is it meant to be a definite F-16ADF or successor to the legacy hornet in the fighter and defense roles. I wonder how well it can take on a legacy hornet in a dogfight. Since there are a few of you here who think it has the potential to be a good fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentrandude Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 If the f-35 had amock battle with the f-16 I would pay money to see who won. It would be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Are you gonna load up both fighters with full and/or similar combat load? Everything I've seen says that in the real world the F-35 is gonna be a better fighter. The F-16 looks better on paper, when it's not carrying any ordinance... but such a hypothetical is a cripple fight. Let's talk real world scenarios... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nied Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 There was a discussion about it deep in the huge aviation thread and the feeling was that it wasnt' needed as the JSF's main enemy would be SAMs. Better that it's a touch stealthier (and faster) and doesn't get shot at in the first place than has good visibility seems to be the philosophy. that said, It's never a good idea to design a "fighter" where you can't see someone on your six. I guess, when it ever sees service, that we'll find out if the right call was made. That may be a mockup, but it it full-size? if so, I never really realised just how small it is. The mock up shown is some wierd amalgam of all JSF versions (similar to the X-35). In actuallyity all but one F-35 version will have pretty good rear visibility. Only the F-35B (the USMC/RAF version) will have it's canopy truncated to make room for a lift fan, and since it's main purpose will be CAS and not dogfighting that shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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