Hiriyu Posted October 13, 2003 Posted October 13, 2003 (edited) Ok, here's a question I haven't seen addressed anywhere... My understanding is that the civilian populace (Macross City) on board the SDF-1 was located in the aft portions of the ship, forward of the main drives, and somewhere in the upper region of deck structure. One would assume that the plan of the 'city' would be in a longitudinal postion relative to the ship. All is well and good. However, when the Macross makes its return to earth, in transformed [or strike] shape, wouldn't the city be literally and figuratively 'turned on its ear' by the Macross' return to Earth-normal gravity? Is this compensated by the ships' grav generators, or inertial fields, or what? Or is it just another case of anime-magic? Or am I completely mistaken about the whole thing, and a retard for reading waay too much into this? Edited October 13, 2003 by Hiriyu
Lightning Posted October 13, 2003 Posted October 13, 2003 from what it seems, they redid the city in 3-4 levels once they transformed the Macross into Strike mode, (kinda like an appartment complex)
Pat Payne Posted October 13, 2003 Posted October 13, 2003 Also, it coulda always been vertically aligned rather than horizontally aligned (in space, there is no "up" or "down," remember? ) or the city may have been on rotating plates so that they were always aligned "up" in relation to the ship's position.
Hiriyu Posted October 13, 2003 Posted October 13, 2003 Also, it coulda always been vertically aligned rather than horizontally aligned (in space, there is no "up" or "down," remember? ) Yep, but then again that doesn't explain the same circumstance when the SDF-1 is in 'cruiser' shape while earthbound (and both configurations, with the city onboard, are shown in the SDF series <_< ). Unless, the city is on swivel plates as you mention - just seems to be the long way around... Any other ideas? (Mods, sorry if this is too far off the Q&A charter of this thread)
azrael Posted October 13, 2003 Posted October 13, 2003 Also, it coulda always been vertically aligned rather than horizontally aligned (in space, there is no "up" or "down," remember? ) Yep, but then again that doesn't explain the same circumstance when the SDF-1 is in 'cruiser' shape while earthbound (and both configurations, with the city onboard, are shown in the SDF series ). Unless, the city is on swivel plates as you mention - just seems to be the long way around... Any other ideas? (Mods, sorry if this is too far off the Q&A charter of this thread) This really isn't addressed too much in the series. My best guess would be it is caused by the artificial gravity on board. If the city did rotate, that would be a lot of rotating blocks to move. I doubt they had the time to reconfig an entire section of the ship just to rotate when in Strike mode.
Nightbat Posted October 13, 2003 Posted October 13, 2003 If the city was placed in horizontal position relative to the Cruiser-mode changing into Force-mode any acceleration (now vertically for the city)could be dampened by increasing the power of the artificial gravitieplates BTW although not seen in TV, in DYRL I believe you see cars driving over the ceiling
Tekkaman Blade Posted October 13, 2003 Posted October 13, 2003 Yeah, there were cars driving on the top in DYRL. It reminded me of the colonies in Gundam, but those were cylinders, this was cubical.
Duke Togo Posted October 13, 2003 Posted October 13, 2003 What's the latest reaosn given why DYRL?" hasn't been release Stateside? Last I heard it was something along the lines of no one knew who owned the rights, or the people who did weren't going to give it up...
azrael Posted October 14, 2003 Posted October 14, 2003 What's the latest reaosn given why DYRL?" hasn't been release Stateside? Last I heard it was something along the lines of no one knew who owned the rights, or the people who did weren't going to give it up... http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...26&t=153&st=260 http://forums.animeondvd.com/showflat.php?...sb=5&o=&fpart=1 From Animeigo's panel at AWA: They will not release the Macross DYRL movie. Nobody will be releasing the DYRL movie: many companies claim to have it. Even if you offer all of them money, they won't let a US distributor have it because they don't want the other companies to get any money.
ManxoChu Posted October 14, 2003 Posted October 14, 2003 Not sure if the question goes here, but anyway... I was wondering if there's any official storyline for Isamu after the events of M+. I have a fic in the works, but thinking of rewriting it to use Isamu and the -19.
azrael Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 I was wondering if there's any official storyline for Isamu after the events of M+. I have a fic in the works, but thinking of rewriting it to use Isamu and the -19. It's a fan fic.....you can do whatever you want.....I mean if you want Isamu to die a horrible death and Guld to come out on top...go ahead...it's your fan fic.
Druna Skass Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 Speaking of the Macross's city, is it in the legs or the main body?
ManxoChu Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 It's a fan fic.....you can do whatever you want.....I mean if you want Isamu to die a horrible death and Guld to come out on top...go ahead...it's your fan fic. I know. I'm not new to the fan fic arena but the fic in question I was planning to rewrite so it'd revolve around Isamu would be post-MacPlus, thus the question I asked.
azrael Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 I'm not new to the fan fic arena but the fic in question I was planning to rewrite so it'd revolve around Isamu would be post-MacPlus, thus the question I asked. We don't know what happens to the boy. He probably got together with Myung. But beyond that, it's up to your imagination as a writer. Good luck. Speaking of the Macross's city, is it in the legs or the main body? Legs. There may have been sections in the main body but that probably would have been reserved for military personel and storage. The majority was located in the legs.
Skull00 Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 I noticed a tape available in fansub circles called: "Macross: A Future Chronicle" What is this? Have I missed a critical volume in macross history?
azrael Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 I noticed a tape available in fansub circles called: "Macross: A Future Chronicle"What is this? Have I missed a critical volume in macross history? IIRC, it was a quick run down of the Macross timeline that went up to just before M7 began to air. There isn't much in there that isn't covered at the Compendium. It's a collector's item.
Skull00 Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Thanks, Azrael. Any more info? Was it by any chance included on the 20th anniversary DVD? Did it have a stand alone Japanese release? What was the running time and release year?
UN Spacy Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Was it by any chance included on the 20th anniversary DVD?Did it have a stand alone Japanese release? What was the running time and release year? 1. Macross: A Future Chronicle was NOT included on the 20th Anniversary DVD. But there WAS a slight timeline included on the DVD.......it just wasn't the same. 2. I don't think it had a stand alone Japanese release. The FIRST time I saw Macross: A Future Chronicle was AFTER the first OAV of Macross Plus (Japanese release VHS w/ no SUBS.....back in 1994). 3. Not too sure about the run time (I'm guessing maybe four to five minutes) and the release year was during the first OAV of M+. B)
Skull00 Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Thanks for the heads up. Now I can relax...whew
Skull00 Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Can someone please go over the basic reasons for Space War I?
UN Spacy Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Can someone please go over the basic reasons for Space War I? Prepare to spend a lot of time on this site. The MACROSS COMPENDIUM. B)
kensei Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Casting everything else aside, does the word "Macross" have any meaning in the english language? I think my Oxford is out of date. But seriously does it? I don't really expect an answer, just curious.
ewilen Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Casting everything else aside, does the word "Macross" have any meaning in the english language?I think my Oxford is out of date.   But seriously does it? I don't really expect an answer, just curious. Well, the origin of the word for the series came from a cross between "megaroad"/"megaload" (indistinguishable in Japanese AFAIK) and "Macbeth" (as pronounced in Japanese, it's "Makubesu"). Details in the Animeigo liner notes, which were fortuitously posted to Usenet. As for an actual meaning in English, none that I'm aware of. I remember getting excited when I first heard of "macros" (i.e., programmable shortcuts for performing multiple computer operations), but there's no connection. The closest meaning would be as a derivative of "macro-", meaning "big" (actually, "long" in Greek). I don't know if Kawamori et. al. ever intended it, but we could suppose that the name is short for "Macro Star Ship".
azrael Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 Casting everything else aside, does the word "Macross" have any meaning in the english language?I think my Oxford is out of date. But seriously does it? I don't really expect an answer, just curious. Notes about the name "Macross" and other little things can be found at the bottom of this page
kensei Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 Casting everything else aside, does the word "Macross" have any meaning in the english language?I think my Oxford is out of date.   But seriously does it? I don't really expect an answer, just curious. Well, the origin of the word for the series came from a cross between "megaroad"/"megaload" (indistinguishable in Japanese AFAIK) and "Macbeth" (as pronounced in Japanese, it's "Makubesu"). Details in the Animeigo liner notes, which were fortuitously posted to Usenet. As for an actual meaning in English, none that I'm aware of. I remember getting excited when I first heard of "macros" (i.e., programmable shortcuts for performing multiple computer operations), but there's no connection. The closest meaning would be as a derivative of "macro-", meaning "big" (actually, "long" in Greek). I don't know if Kawamori et. al. ever intended it, but we could suppose that the name is short for "Macro Star Ship". Cool! Thanks. That question just popped into my mind suddenly last night. Your answer is interesting and could well be right.
Druna Skass Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 I was watching DYRL again, and in that scene where Misa, Hikaru, and Claudia are standing in Global's office, Claudia is standing in front of a board with somw pics ans on has a weired looking ship near the Moon. It doesn't look like anything in the UN or Zentran fleets. It's angular but doesn't really lok like any Meltran ship I"ve seen, does anyone know what that ship is?
Druna Skass Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 Do those ruins in Macross Zero have anything to do with the Protoculture city in DRYL, like is it the cannon version of the ruins?
azrael Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 I was watching DYRL again, and in that scene where Misa, Hikaru, and Claudia are standing in Global's office, Claudia is standing in front of a board with somw pics ans on has a weired looking ship near the Moon. It doesn't look like anything in the UN or Zentran fleets. It's angular but doesn't really lok like any Meltran ship I"ve seen, does anyone know what that ship is? Kinda hard to tell. A disorganized-look to me so it might be space dock. Do those ruins in Macross Zero have anything to do with the Protoculture city in DRYL, like is it the cannon version of the ruins? There are no ruins in M0. Just the AFOS relic.
Effect Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 Question. There is a point in Macross Saga of Robotech where Max fighting and then tell's Rick about a move he is about to do call Fokker's Fake(I think it was that). I could have been when Max and Ben were first assigned to Rick. Does Max say anything similar to Hikaru in SDF Macross during that fight? If so is it called the same thing or something different? Thanks.
Anubis Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 Question. There is a point in Macross Saga of Robotech where Max fighting and then tell's Rick about a move he is about to do call Fokker's Fake(I think it was that). I could have been when Max and Ben were first assigned to Rick. Does Max say anything similar to Hikaru in SDF Macross during that fight? If so is it called the same thing or something different? Thanks. I think that was more Robotech "creative writing."
Abombz!! Posted October 27, 2003 Posted October 27, 2003 Question. There is a point in Macross Saga of Robotech where Max fighting and then tell's Rick about a move he is about to do call Fokker's Fake(I think it was that). I could have been when Max and Ben were first assigned to Rick. Does Max say anything similar to Hikaru in SDF Macross during that fight? If so is it called the same thing or something different? Thanks. You might be refering to Max first skirmish. He does a bunch of Ace like stunts that leave Hikaru and Kakizaki baffled. He doesn't name the manuvers(sp), he simply says "I thought this might've made things easier........ or whatever". It would be easier if you could "pinpoint" when the said scene was supposed to happen.
EXO Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 Yes that was the first Vermillion Team Skirmish, and I don't believe Max referred any of his maneuvers to be named after Roy. (IIRC)
Effect Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 Thanks. Yes that was the fight I was refering to. Man I really need to pick up the offical SDF Macross set. I really wish the price would lower.
Skull00 Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 Does anyone know the origin of the term 'Gerwalk'. I know that the Japlish can get pretty crazy in Macross sometimes (with Macbeth/Megaroad/Megaload etc) but what was Kawamori's influence to name the intermdiate mode between fighter and battloid, gerwalk? Does it have any English language origins?
imode Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 (edited) Does anyone know the origin of the term 'Gerwalk'. I know that the Japlish can get pretty crazy in Macross sometimes (with Macbeth/Megaroad/Megaload etc) but what was Kawamori's influence to name the intermdiate mode between fighter and battloid, gerwalk? Does it have any English language origins? Ground Effective Reinforcement of Winged Armament with Locomotive Knee-joint I kid you not. Edited October 28, 2003 by imode
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