broadcast Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 Stupid newbie questions, but what are the differences? and which one is more popular? and which one is going to see more models/figures released? Trying to decide which kind to buy on ebay. Thanks Quote
Hurricane29 Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) Alright, the 48s are great, the problem is they are expensive and are starting to get rare. So if you see one you want, get it. The 1/60 are good, lower price and more available. This line however hasn't had any new additions, pretty much stopped. The 48's are the same pretty much as well but a GBP is in the works. Edit: Reviews Here are some reviews by Graham, check under the 1/48 A sample for a comparison. Edited March 22, 2005 by Hurricane29 Quote
jenius Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 use the search feature, you'll have instant access to lots of opinions. Quote
AlphaHX Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 Read this: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=226 Quote
do not disturb Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 it doesn't matter cause you'll end up buying both scales eventually. welcome to macrossworld, where the search function is your friend. Quote
Hurin Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 In my humble opinion, There is no equivalent to the 1/48. As far as popularity goes: A small minority still stand by the 1/60s or the old Bandai 1/55s. But, really, I think many of them are emotionally attached to them via nostalgia, or they are using other criterea to judge than most would use (putting price before coolness!). I don't think even those who prefer the 1/60s could objectively assert that the 1/48 isn't a superior toy where perfect transformation and sculpt are concerned. Yes, they could assert durabilty or nit-pick one small portion of the 1/48 sculpt. But, on the whole, the vast majority recognize the 1/48 as being the ultimate valkryie toy/replica. And, in this case, I think the majority is right. I had just started getting 1/60s and 1/55s when I got my first 1/48. I sold all the others (except one 1/60). I'd get the 1/48s first. I can't imagine someone having a 1/48 first and then saying: "Oh wait, I need all those smaller, less-cool looking ones now!" Though, I'm sure it's happened. With luck, you'll get a few 1/48s and that will sate your VF-1 hunger. Your wallet will thank you! H Quote
Dangaioh Posted March 22, 2005 Posted March 22, 2005 If you must buy a 1/48 IMO go for a low vis or a 1S Hikky... or even try a 1/48 M&M super set. Quote
Godzilla Posted March 23, 2005 Posted March 23, 2005 1/48s of course! Accept no substitute! (unless you want a super ostrich or VF-1D, get the 1/60. I am leaning toward it right now if no 1/48 2 seaters are released.) Quote
Fortress_Maximus Posted March 23, 2005 Posted March 23, 2005 I would also suggest getting a 1/48, but choose one based on your budget. I'd recommend a Max, Roy or Hikaru reissue. The second and third releases tend to be cheaper IMO. You might even find one listed here on MW used, which is every bit as good provided the seller on MW has a good history. Good luck and welcome. Quote
GobotFool Posted March 23, 2005 Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) I would also suggest getting a 1/48, but choose one based on your budget. I'd recommend a Max, Roy or Hikaru reissue. The second and third releases tend to be cheaper IMO. You might even find one listed here on MW used, which is every bit as good provided the seller on MW has a good history. Good luck and welcome. there was a max reissue? also on the 2nd and third reissues, they have all the improvments. Unless you are a hardcore collector avoid the 1st issues of the 1A hikaru, and 1S roy. Edited March 23, 2005 by GobotFool Quote
Desram Posted March 24, 2005 Posted March 24, 2005 Where does the Hikaru Vf-1J stand in the release order? Quote
kensei Posted March 24, 2005 Posted March 24, 2005 Where does the Hikaru Vf-1J stand in the release order? 1 release only, available in Super and Standard. Quote
Anubis Posted March 24, 2005 Posted March 24, 2005 The 1/60's are still good if space and budget are issues. The 1/48 is king however. Quote
eugimon Posted March 24, 2005 Posted March 24, 2005 I would also suggest getting a 1/48, but choose one based on your budget. I'd recommend a Max, Roy or Hikaru reissue. The second and third releases tend to be cheaper IMO. You might even find one listed here on MW used, which is every bit as good provided the seller on MW has a good history. Good luck and welcome. there was a max reissue? also on the 2nd and third reissues, they have all the improvments. Unless you are a hardcore collector avoid the 1st issues of the 1A hikaru, and 1S roy. oddly, the first hiakru 1A isnt that bad.. sure the wing flaps tend to pop off, and the nose cone falls off more easily... but it didn't have the crooked skull emblem that the Roy 1S did... sides... my 1A hikaru is tighter in transformation that any of my other 1/48s. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted March 24, 2005 Posted March 24, 2005 (edited) I don't know. It could be that only macrossworld people think 1/48 is the most popular. There might be a whole mass of fans that aren't coming here but who've been buying 1/60 scale because it's more affordable since 1/48 are too expensive for them. Apart from all the other bonuses of being superior in most things to the smalleer scale, I prefer the 1/48 for thier perfect transformability. Having legs that detach isn't as cool as having a massive swing bar keeping the whole toy together. I think I remember some people saying that because the legs detach from 1/60s it was a negative point to be considered if you were going to get the yamato 1/60. (some people really place importance on perfect tranformability.) If some toy company were to say release a variable glaug or something I would want perfect transforms in sacrifice of slightly less poseable bot mode. (cuz it kind of proves to a person looking at the toy that it is 'not cheating' in its transformation. What I mean by this, is if they don't see the legs physically detach in the cartoon/anime they will think the toy "isn't realistic". We know some kind of detaching actually takes place from design works, of course but 'they' might not and wonder why the legs have to come off to create the bot mode. Unless some toy company recreates the detaching mechanism in the lineart to be as realistic as possible for the toy.) Edited March 24, 2005 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
connor99 Posted March 24, 2005 Posted March 24, 2005 1/48's are the way to go ,but for the price that the 1/60's are going for right now, I'd say they're alright. Maybe I'm just one of those people who are easy to please, but the detachable legs don't bother me none. OR maybe I just not a big fan of those swing bars ! Quote
Radd Posted March 25, 2005 Posted March 25, 2005 OR maybe I just not a big fan of those swing bars ! The detachable legs wouldn't bother me quite so much had Yamato not designed the hips with those huge bulges housing the joint. They're every bit as much an eyesore as swing bars, but without the bonus of perfect transformation. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted March 25, 2005 Posted March 25, 2005 (edited) Certainly, if you can afford both, that would be great. I would have bought a line of 1/60s if I had gotten into the toys earlier but 1/48s are enough for me. Not everyone may be able to afford a line of 1/48s was what I was saying, so it might be a bit of a risk if these do poorly and not enough buy them. If they are popular, that may increase the chance we start seeing more in the 1/48 line though. Everyone has a different price range though. If the 1/60s (less risky?) did poorly, we may not have seen the 1/48s. Now that 1/48s are here, if more buy them up we might see more support for this scale. I see it as a case of the price being the main obstacle. Most people probably want this scale but have to settle for the 1/60 if thier pocket is taking too much of a massive hit with each one. (as opposed to being because they believe the 1/48 is inferior in any way) If your priority is to "get everything in a line" than it may even be less attractive to get 1/48 because of a percieved belief that there will never be as complete a range of different valks released for this line. (similar to how evryone wants to see a masterpiece megatron because they are impressed with masterpiece prime. Not necessarily being a line of stuff and more like a one-off for the anniversary) I tend not to think of expensive stuff as being "collectible" ie you intend to fully buy a complete set of something (like the banpresto cheapies) so am happy if not everything was released for me to buy. But that's just me. Edited March 25, 2005 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker Quote
broadcast Posted March 25, 2005 Author Posted March 25, 2005 Ah ok! I see on ebay lots of regular 1/60's for sale, but do they make the Super pack for those? I can find regular 1/48's and Super/Strike add-on packs for sale, but not 1/60 super add-on packs. Quote
Die, Alien Scum! Posted March 25, 2005 Posted March 25, 2005 The 1/60 Super/Strike Parts are not sold separately like the 1/48s. They only come with the 1S Strike, the three TV 1J Supers, and the VE and VT (but they both have their own, different setup). In fact, most of the 1/60 line will not even accept the Super/Strike Parts without modification. Quote
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