mechaninac Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 A 1/55 Hovertank would be around the size of a 3 3/4" GI Joe figure which would be pretty cool. Not for $80 a pop it wouldn't...
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 If just a tone change, I probably wouldn't even notice a problem unless I saw the two together (and even then, I couldn't say which was more right). I do wish to get the version that was shown on the Toynamy booth at Anime Expo. That tan blue is just the right one for me. Somewhere on this thread was also posted a picture of a boxed Alpha from the same event, only the color looked different, more like the prototype. If you look carefully the certificate of authenticity you'll see that it's the 200th (I know, I'm a frigging geek) The boxed Alpha that Tom brought to the MWCon looks also different, but in this case the number can't be seen Whether if this was just a case of bad lighting, or if those two apparent different colors are indeed the two versions, I'll only find out when my Alpha get's here, I only hope that if I get one of the first 3000, it becomes a pricey rare item sometime.
Godzilla Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 I just want to see when and if the Beta comes out. As for the next MPC, most likely something from the Southern Cross.
VALKYRIE-EXCHANGE.COM Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 As for the next MPC, most likely something from the Southern Cross. Don't hold your breath....
mechaninac Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 I hope the following doesn't violate any rules of decorum or anything, if it does, mods please delete, but I thought that it is significant enough to CP here. The following was lifted directly from the RT.com forums, posted by Rocco_77: Subject: Ok guys, I've got the reply from Toynami... Posted On: July 12, 2004 - 11:32:13 AM Dear Rocco Txxxxx, Rumors are just rumors! We are producing the Scott Alpha Veritech in two waves, 7500 units will ship in the first wave and the balance will come 45 days later. All 15000 units will be physically identical, so rest assure that their is no need to wait and buy your Alpha later. The first 3000 will have a slight repackaging of the Alpha in the blister tray, but really not significant to wait for your edition. Early numbers are usually more desirable so we personally recommend you getting any edition you can. The first wave is already all pre-sold and sales are getting more aggressive on the second wave, so you should not wait. In regards to the Beta....? If sales are justified with all four editions of the Alpha, which they are so far, we will heavily consider the Beta. Some mock ups have already been started and this monster is quite big. If the Beta is to come out and this is "IF", do not expect it for at least another 2 years. They will of course connect to all of the Alpha's. We appreciate your support and hope you enjoy the Alpha MPC when it comes out. Regards, Toynami, Inc. I would also appear that our hopes for a Beta are not in vain! I realize that in the reply they say, "at least another 2 years," which kinda sucks, but hey... if it really happens, then it will be worth the wait I think.... They've already done MOCK-UPS! SWEET!! It still doesn't guarantee anything, but it is most definitely a great start... Thanks to EVERYONE here that continues to support this thread, and the desire for a linkable BETA MPC... GO TEAM!!! It appears that the variation will be packaging related and that a Beta may indeed be in the very early stages of development...sweet.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 Thanks, mechaninac. Now I can relax and wait.
bandit29 Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 Two years for a tread? ouch thats a long time in the world of fickle fanboys. But its nice that they have considered it.
1st Border Red Devil Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 Ok.... the $64,000 question is WHY 2 yrs? Cyclones MPCs should already be in the development stages....it shouldnt take that long.
eugimon Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 I don't think two years is that unreasonable, they probably want to milk the alpha design before they launch another MPC. besides... don't they kinda have to come up with the beta design on their own this time around?
Cyclone Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 Ok....the $64,000 question is WHY 2 yrs? Cyclones MPCs should already be in the development stages....it shouldnt take that long. Toynami don't want to release two kinds of RT MPCs at the same time, so a year for the Alphas, and year for the Cyclones... ends up being two years...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 2 years + add one year and a half in the dark like always(they nver uipdate until a month before release)=2008.
trueblueeyes Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 I am wondering about the shadow alpha. Has anyone heard if it will just be a recolor like the superposeable was, or will they do the remolding for a real dark legios?
Hoptimus Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 I am wondering about the shadow alpha. Has anyone heard if it will just be a recolor like the superposeable was, or will they do the remolding for a real dark legios? Since this is MPC they better remold that shiet. I will probably buy all 4 just so the Beta/Tread will come out.
rocco_77 Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 (edited) Mechaniac... Thanks for posting the reply I got from Toynami... I was going to get around to it myself here soon actually... The news I got seems pretty promising, but the time frame is a bit frustrating... Oh well... If a Tread/Beta does get produced, I think it will be worth the wait... And actually, as much as I want a Tread/Beta, I would like to see the Cyclone MPCs... EDIT: From what I remember reading a while back at RT.com, the Shadow Alpha will be "accurate" to the line art... Isn't the main difference in the shoulder area? Edited July 14, 2004 by rocco_77
Godzilla Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 Folks, They say 2 year IF AND ONLY IF they make the decision to go with the beta/tread. They said it is huge and from what it sound like it may not fit on the standard packaging.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 I'll buy the whole Alphas line, both because I like 'em all, and because I wan't a Beta, tho' I realize the chances are small. After all it isn't as popular as the Alpha and the production costs will be high. Now I hope that Toynami does really well so they can afford the adventure and succeed where others have failed. Personally I don't give a damn about the Cyclons. I'll probably buy one if they look good, but there's no way they can make them perfect transformation, and I'm a perfect transformation guy, so I prefer the Beta any day. Maybe we should poll it to make Toynami change their minds about the whole Beta thing.
Californium Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 That doesn't sound to promising to me. Sounds like they have some reservations about the beta design and might be setting the fans up to be let down easy--just in case. If so, perhaps it's because they are having difficulties with the way the beta and legioss fit together. Not so much how they connect using the tread's docking boom, but how the edges of each mate together, especially when the legioss is in fighter mode. (there always seems to be a little anime-magic going on along those edges...) How tall/wide should a 1/55 scale beta be? I doubt it would be that big with a legioss that small. No taller than the vf-1 MPC...? Anyhow, not sure if I would get one, but I do hope for a tread. Especially if it mates nicely with both fighter and soldier mode legioss.
EXO Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 That doesn't sound to promising to me. Sounds like they have some reservations about the beta design and might be setting the fans up to be let down easy--just in case. If so, perhaps it's because they are having difficulties with the way the beta and legioss fit together. Not so much how they connect using the tread's docking boom, but how the edges of each mate together, especially when the legioss is in fighter mode. (there always seems to be a little anime-magic going on along those edges...) i totally concur... also with Shin about the delays Toynami tends to have...
Shaggydog Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 The Beta seems unlikely to happen to me. It would be wisest to just assume that it won't happen, then if it does, it's a pleasant surprise. Anyone who is buying Alphas just to get a Beta made is setting themselves up for disappointment, IMO. Buy the Alphas on their own merits, or don't buy them at all.
rocco_77 Posted July 14, 2004 Posted July 14, 2004 Buy the Alphas on their own merits, or don't buy them at all. I agree with this... I'm not buying the Alphas just to help out Toynami's sales with hopes of a Beta... But I will continue to be optimistic about it... Yes, there will be a lot of disappointed fans if the Beta never gets made... myself included, but it's not the end of the world. It would just be about the coolest thing ever if it did happen though.
Godzilla Posted July 15, 2004 Posted July 15, 2004 Well I know I will get this Alpha and do a wait and see attitude. The veritech MPCs really pissd me off. Of course I bought 2 of each before I discovered the 1/48 line.
JT70 Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 I pre ordered two and if I see any in the local toy shop I may buy more. JT
mechaninac Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 Thanks for the pictures. Although they look like prototypes (solid blue canopies) this is the first time I've seen the Red Alpha MPC in fighter mode, and the first time ever for the Green version in any mode. Damn, they do look nice, don't they? My only nitpick other than the clown feet is the sensor pod just looks "off".
Californium Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 I really wish they had flared the sensor eye on that green one more. The head sculpt on the red legioss doesn't quite look right to me either, but I'm not sure why.
JsARCLIGHT Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 Those pics are nice... they also clear up something that was bothering me this whole time: are the paint schemes going to be correct to the line art? Still no mock/proto of the Dark Legioss yet, huh? Is that a good sign or a bad one?
bsu legato Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 If they do make a Shadow Alpha/Dark Legioss, I hope to hell that Toynami goes the extra mile and sculpts the different components that make it unique.
Blaine23 Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 It would be cool if they did the Shadow Alpha correctly. Especially since the new RT series is all about the Shadow technology, etc. It would be pretty dumb to half-ass it.
Shaggydog Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 For some reason the green alpha's head looks a little odd to me. Maybe it's just the picture. Is it a photoshop job, or a real photograph? Can someone tell me what the blue mark on the front of the red alpha's face is supposed to be? I note that it's a different color than the eyes (which are yellow). The superposeable had the blue mark too, but I don't think the big gakken toy had it. It looks like the drawing at the Mospeada home page has a blue mark of some sort inbetween the eyes, too. Is it just decorative, or is it supposed to be some sort of sensor? Is toynami correct to include that mark on their toy? Thanks for posting the pix!
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