Armor Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 I hear this thing is only going to be 5 to 6 inches tall. Is this true?
wolfx Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 It's 1/55, so 5 or 6 inches sounds right. Is that about the same height as the Toynami Superposeable Alphas? It sounds like around there.
Pat S Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Well, I have some 1/40 Alpha models, and they are about the same as the super poseables. If the Toynami Alpha is truly 1/55 scale it will be shorter than the super poseables by an inch I would guess. It's 13.7 meters tall in battloid, so bring that to 1/55 scale, that's how tall it should be. I stole this from Robotech.com forums user GIR_Prototype... VFA-6H (Blue Alpha) Fighter Mode Length: 10.25m Height: 4.60m Wingspan: 8.2m Scale Length: .213541666667m=21.35cm=8.407in Scale Height: .095833333333m=9.583cm=3.773in Scale Wingspan: .170833333333m=17.083cm=6.725in Guardian Mode Length: 8.00m Height: 5.72m Width: 4.84m Scale Length: .166666666667m=16.67cm=6.561in Scale Height: .119166666667m=11.92cm=4.691in Scale Width: .100833333333m=10.083cm=3.969in Battloid Mode Depth: 5.25m Height: 8.75m Breadth: 4.84m Scale Depth: .109375m=10.937cm=4.306in Scale Height: .182291666667m=18.229cm=7.176in Scale Breadth: .100833333333m=10.083cm=3.969in
wolfx Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Well, I have some 1/40 Alpha models, and they are about the same as the super poseables. If the Toynami Alpha is truly 1/55 scale it will be shorter than the super poseables by an inch I would guess. Damn....that's !(*@&!( small isn't it? Now I know not to trust that toy dealer who talks like he knows everything. I was having an "intelligent conversation" with him about how the MPC Alpha would be rather small and around the same size as the super poseables (and i pointed at the super poseables he had) and he shook his head saying "No....its much bigger than that" while giving me a "what...are you stupid?" look. This was the same dealer who was gonna charge me USD100. Not sure if that price is justifiable, after shipping etc is accounted for.
melancholic Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 The site below states that a 1/35 Legioss is 9" tall. http://users.ev1.net/~superjaw/alphag-f.html This next link is a comparison page of the various Legioss toys. It shows a 1/55 scale Legioss as being basically half the size of a 1/35 model. So I suspect 5 inches or 5 and a half inches in height at most for the MPC version. Fairly tiny. http://www.menet.umn.edu/~ngo/gsamson_legioss.html
Pat S Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 If you look at the conversion chart I posted, it says the Battloid mode will be 7.1 inches tall. I'll have to take a look at the 1/40 model and the super poseables when I get home.
wolfx Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 The site below states that a 1/35 Legioss is 9" tall.http://users.ev1.net/~superjaw/alphag-f.html This next link is a comparison page of the various Legioss toys. It shows a 1/55 scale Legioss as being basically half the size of a 1/35 model. So I suspect 5 inches or 5 and a half inches in height at most for the MPC version. Fairly tiny. http://www.menet.umn.edu/~ngo/gsamson_legioss.html Makes me want those cheap Gakken legioss' more. GET ME ONE FROM AX DAMMIT!
Mallet21 Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 Anybody know what the total length in fighter mode (1/55 scale) would be with a Beta attached? Thanks
Pat S Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 (edited) The 1/40 is just over 6 inches tall, the SuperPoseable is 6.5 inches tall, which means, the 1/55 will probably be around 5 inches. Edited June 7, 2004 by Pat S
Opus Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 The site below states that a 1/35 Legioss is 9" tall.http://users.ev1.net/~superjaw/alphag-f.html This next link is a comparison page of the various Legioss toys. It shows a 1/55 scale Legioss as being basically half the size of a 1/35 model. So I suspect 5 inches or 5 and a half inches in height at most for the MPC version. Fairly tiny. http://www.menet.umn.edu/~ngo/gsamson_legioss.html According to this convertor http://users2.ev1.net/~jimbobwan/scalcalc.htm and the numbers provided by Pat S the battloid should be 15.91cm (about 6 3/8in).
Global Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 Well, I've seen the prototype at San Diego Comic-con and I thought it was a little bigger than the super-posables. So I guess it will be around 7 inches tall. While I would prefer a little bigger, I can live with 7 inches. But if its any smaller than the super-posable, I'll just pass on it.
Guppy Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 I've got the superposable alphas and the 1/55 gakkens. I would be really surprised if they made them as small as the gakkens. Even though they say they're 1/55 nobody would buy such a small toy. 7 inches would be the smallest they could realistically get away with IMO.
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 I've got the superposable alphas and the 1/55 gakkens. I would be really surprised if they made them as small as the gakkens. Even though they say they're 1/55 nobody would buy such a small toy. 7 inches would be the smallest they could realistically get away with IMO. heh to toynami, anyone will buy EVERYTHING. Or harmony gold I mean. Hell they advertised diecast with MPCs and they didnt implemen til vol1 and only told customers last minute before rick shipped, what makes you think toynami WONT make a small as alpha and sell it for 80$?
Guppy Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 I've got the superposable alphas and the 1/55 gakkens. I would be really surprised if they made them as small as the gakkens. Even though they say they're 1/55 nobody would buy such a small toy. 7 inches would be the smallest they could realistically get away with IMO. heh to toynami, anyone will buy EVERYTHING. Or harmony gold I mean. Hell they advertised diecast with MPCs and they didnt implemen til vol1 and only told customers last minute before rick shipped, what makes you think toynami WONT make a small as alpha and sell it for 80$? I'm sure they will.. I just don't want them too! *continues to hope in vain*
MrDisco Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 i think the new pics look really nice; but the high price means i'll pass on them.
eyesonme78 Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Well then , maybe i did just get one and see how things are. but then if the first one is so bad as mentioned maybe i will pass on the second one.but then again, if they comes out with beta fighter.. maybe can consider about it.
Black Valkyrie Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 Even today Gakken Legioss`s plastic quality is still far better than Toynami`s Legioss even if it has the better looks.
robomatt Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 The toy looks incredible. what if they make a Beta? Even if the alpha is six or seven inches tall in Battloid mode... the beta would be much taller, and bigger. The combined fighter mode would be absolutely huge and awesome. I know I am getting my hopes up.
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 The toy looks incredible.what if they make a Beta? Even if the alpha is six or seven inches tall in Battloid mode... the beta would be much taller, and bigger. The combined fighter mode would be absolutely huge and awesome. I know I am getting my hopes up. yes you are getting your hopes up cyc says the beta wont even be out till 2006 uhm. Just because the beta will be huge doesnt EVER justify the ALpha costing 80$. Most of us are doing the smart thing, waiting 2 months and bubying when discounted. Most of the etailers offering free shipping will most likely drop price after 2 months...thats when they can start price slashing. Only reason it is 80$ is because robotech.com is 80$ msrp BUT after 2 months other etailers can sell for less. And so the wqaiting game begins.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted June 21, 2004 Posted June 21, 2004 I have one on preorder with Kevin. I know, I know. It's just that I'm a big Alpha fan and the Gakken ones are beyond my pocket. Besides the MPC's sculpt is very good. I just wish there were more competition with the Alpha
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 I have one on preorder with Kevin. I know, I know. It's just that I'm a big Alpha fan and the Gakken ones are beyond my pocket. Besides the MPC's sculpt is very good.I just wish there were more competition with the Alpha all the etailer iknow that if price was slashed to 1/2 by toynami/HG all of us would by all 4 in one fell swwop! but yes it is a mighty fine looking toy. now we wait till lower price.....
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 all the etailer iknow that if price was slashed to 1/2 by toynami/HG all of us would by all 4 in one fell swwop!but yes it is a mighty fine looking toy. now we wait till lower price..... Sine the Alpha was advertised as "Limited Edition", I'm affraid to miss it. I know it's stupid, 'cause the VF-1's are still out there, but what can I say? I give myself to panic when it comes to certain items. Now you can call me an "Alpha scab"
Opus Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 all the etailer iknow that if price was slashed to 1/2 by toynami/HG all of us would by all 4 in one fell swwop!but yes it is a mighty fine looking toy. now we wait till lower price..... Sine the Alpha was advertised as "Limited Edition", I'm affraid to miss it. I know it's stupid, 'cause the VF-1's are still out there, but what can I say? I give myself to panic when it comes to certain items. Now you can call me an "Alpha scab" Meh. It's your money. Spend it however you like. I've got one on pre-order for Kev too and I don't even like Mospewhatchyacallit that much but this toy looks cool. I've paid more for less and I'm willing to bet almost everyone here has too.
Armor Posted June 22, 2004 Posted June 22, 2004 lol Alpha scab, I love it. Dude I'm withya on that. I'm getting one too. Call me Alpha scab picker.
Godzilla Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 Well, I got mine with a decent price discount. But I am only buying this 1st one. After that, I will see if it is worth getting. I never buy anything from Toynami full price after the Rick MPC.
Godzilla Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 Even today Gakken Legioss`s plastic quality is still far better than Toynami`s Legioss even if it has the better looks. Yeah, well I cannot buy those Gakkens at over $250 a pop. Yes I agree $80 is too much for this MPC alpha but who else is making them?
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) Yeah, well I cannot buy those Gakkens at over $250 a pop. Yes I agree $80 is too much for this MPC alpha but who else is making them? Exactly my point: Toynami has us grabbed by the ghoulies Edited June 25, 2004 by Lonely Soldier Boy
Mechafan Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 For me it will be a cool toy thats not $200. For that price the Gakkens are used and prone to breakage. Most of the time missing items, parts and dirty. MIB ones make you have to take out a loan. Only way I would be mad with getting the Toynami one if the Beta never comes out.
Global Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 Well, I recently got a gakken and I just don't like it. Its too big and chunky. I'll probably sell it and buy a MPC. I think 1/48 would be a better scale but I don't want to beat a dead horse.
mechaninac Posted June 23, 2004 Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) A lot of the actual toy size and quality speculations will be solved within 2 weeks to a month's time. I have one on pre-order so I can see for myself and avoid the chance, however improbable, that if I wait I'll miss out on it...after I have that in my hands then I'll decide if continuing to buy the rest of the collection is worth my while. If the Alpha is VERY good, then I'll have to live with $60-$80 retail; if the toy is of passable quality then I'll wait for it to go on sale (I may do that anyway), but if the Apha sucks, then the Blue one will be the first and last for me. Edited June 23, 2004 by mechaninac
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted June 25, 2004 Posted June 25, 2004 Well, I recently got a gakken and I just don't like it. Its too big and chunky. I'll probably sell it and buy a MPC. I think 1/48 would be a better scale but I don't want to beat a dead horse. I feel the same. While the Gakken was the only Mospeada/Alpha out there I thought it was cool. Now I can't even think in spending 250 bucks for a toy who has a better and newer version for less than half the price. This does not means I'm happy with the $80 price tag. I'm talking to you Toynami
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