MasterPiece Collection v1.1

[armentage]

Don't discount the fact that Mospeada is ONLY popular in the US because of Robotech. It was a flop in Japan when it first aired. I wouldn't be surprised if Yamato has no interest in making Mospeada toys in the first place, because there would be no Japanese market for them. I wouldn't be surprised if the owner of the Mospeada/SC rights happily offered them to Toynami, just to make whatever profit they could from them.

Anyway, I'd be way more impressed with all these companies if they began to turn out some of their own original transforming mecha, rather than changing the color scheme on 22-year old designs that have been done to death.

[jenius]

It was a flop in Japan when it first aired.

Flop is a bit intense. It wasn't the dramatic hit people were hoping for but enough people were bummed about its being ended early that they did produce the Love, Live, Alive send-off.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

I think that given enough time, some japanese toymaker would eventually pick up the licence (like Yamato did with Megazone). But now we'll never know.

[Kin]

I personally don't think its a flop. Mospeada has a lot of cool elements, only they didn't took much effort/advantage of it in the animated series.

[connor99]

Still no news 'bout TOYNAMI's BETA/TLEAD, huh?! Oh, well the wait continues.

[Kin]

Still no news 'bout TOYNAMI's BETA/TLEAD, huh?!  Oh, well the wait continues.

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Lol! No news or replies from 16th feb til 9th march... a world record

[jenius]

RT.com forums say it has been postponed until 2007.

[promethuem5]

Well..that certanly is a large and ungainly jump

[Kin]

I feel "kinda old for toys" in 2007

[Cyclone]

Emails posted to the RT.com from Toynami point to their original intention of Q4 2006, and that they don't want to rush an intricate toy, which points to MPC Voltron style technical hitches.

[CoryHolmes]

Emails posted to the RT.com from Toynami point to their original intention of Q4 2006, and that they don't want to rush an intricate toy, which points to MPC Voltron style technical hitches.

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Links?

[Kin]

Heheh... I understand they don't want the same problem... but what good does it make if you hook up a faulty mpc alpha on to it?

[eugimon]

hah. My alpha has since gone back into its box and is somewhere buried. guess this means more money for yamato.

[Cyclone]

Emails posted to the RT.com from Toynami point to their original intention of Q4 2006, and that they don't want to rush an intricate toy, which points to MPC Voltron style technical hitches.

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Links?

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Don't misunderstand, these aren't official, just fans posting the email responses they get back from Toynami. But given the lack of any officially anounced info, that's why I mentioned them.

http://www.robotech.com/community/forum/re...2541&forumid=23

[CoryHolmes]

Emails posted to the RT.com from Toynami point to their original intention of Q4 2006, and that they don't want to rush an intricate toy, which points to MPC Voltron style technical hitches.

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Links?

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Don't misunderstand, these aren't official, just fans posting the email responses they get back from Toynami. But given the lack of any officially anounced info, that's why I mentioned them.

http://www.robotech.com/community/forum/re...2541&forumid=23

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And given the lack of any offical info, that's why I asked for them

[Kin]

well... I'm unofficialy satisfied for now.

[niomosy]

RT.com forums say it has been postponed until 2007.

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So, no real news, then?

Really, I don't think anyone was surprised by this. We'd all expected it to get pushed off. It just wouldn't be the same if it wasn't delayed

[Macross73]

Remember "keep your expectations low and you'll be pleasantly surprised'

besides for now you can save up for other things you may want

Edited March 14, 2006 by Macross73

[Ladic]

hey guys, I'm planning to sell Rick Hunter and Ben Dixon together on Ebay, whats a good price to ask for them?

[jenius]

completed listings show anywhere from $85 to $170 for Rick. $20 is all you can fetch for a Ben these days.

[Ladic]

damn, I guess if I can in the 145-175 range for both, I'd be happy.

[jenius]

Try putting them up for like $169.99 and list it as a Rick MPC and say you're throwing in Ben FREE! For some reason... I think you'll get a buyer quicker that way then listing them as a lot. It's funny how eBay psychology works.

[Ladic]

lol, i was actually thinking about that earlier, thanks for the tip.

[R_Deckard]

Do you guys know the exact height of the MasterPiece Alphas and their scale?

Is 6.5 inches high in Battroid correct? Is it 1/55 scale?

I just picked up a Scott Bernard and it seems really tiny compared to my Gakkens.

Thanks.

Edited March 29, 2006 by R_Deckard

[Macross73]

Yeah, they're correct at 1/55 scale they're smaller than the 1/35? Gakken Alpha.

the exact measurements, I just dont know.

[jenius]

Yeah, they're correct at 1/55 scale they're smaller than the 1/35? Gakken Alpha.

the exact measurements, I just dont know.

Technically, they're not correct 1/55 scale. They're somewhere between 1/55 and 1/48 scale. Here's a pic that might help shed some light:

Edited March 29, 2006 by jenius

[R_Deckard]

Thanks, I thought it was 1/55 when I bought but, for some reason I expected it to be a bit bigger. Guess I been looking at the 1/48 VF-1 too much. I like everything on it except for it being smaller.

It would be nice to have an exact 1/48 scale alpha high detail toy.

[RT junkie]

I thought I read somewhere that the Alphas were actually 1/48. That Toynami was using the molds from the old Imai kits..... If that's the case, aren't they actually bigger than they should be at 1/55?

[mechaninac]

I thought I read somewhere that the Alphas were actually 1/48. That Toynami was using the molds from the old Imai kits.....  If that's the case, aren't they actually bigger than they should be at 1/55?

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As jenius said, they are somewhere between 1/55 and 1/48... I'd say around 1/50; the pilot, however, is 1/55.

The often repeated assumption/lie that Toynami used the old Imai 1/48 kit molds is, however, absolutely preposterous; although similar in overall size, the two are completely different in several proportions, details and execution. It may be true that the kit was used as an inspiration, or even a starting point in the design process, but there is where they diverge (everything else being equal, a simple look at the plastic parts' thicknesses would be all the info you'd need to tell them apart -- kit parts are 1.0-1.2 mm, and toy parts are 1.5-1.8 mm... you can't get 1.5 mm from a mold designed for 1.0 mm).

[Mechafan]

I not sure what the size it is suppose to be but the Toynami one seems taller than the Gakken 1/55.

This picure below has the Gakken 1/35, Gakken 1/55, Gakken 1/72, Toynami SD Morpher, Toynami Matallic Super Poseable, Toynami MPC Alpha.

The Gakken 1/55 is in front of the Toynami 1/55.

[baronv]

Is the Toynami Alpha super poseable suppose to be the same scale as the Toynami transforming Alpha?

[CoryHolmes]

Is the Toynami Alpha super poseable suppose to be the same scale as the Toynami transforming Alpha?

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Same scale, but more along the lines of what it should look like in Battloid mode without having to care about how the other modes look or how to transform into them.

[Lonely Soldier Boy]

Same scale, but more along the lines of what it should look like in Battloid mode without having to care about how the other modes look or how to transform into them.

I like the proportions of the MPC Battloid better.

[jenius]

The often repeated assumption/lie that Toynami used the old Imai 1/48 kit molds is, however, absolutely preposterous; although similar in overall size, the two are completely different in several proportions, details and execution. It may be true that the kit was used as an inspiration, or even a starting point in the design process, but there is where they diverge (everything else being equal, a simple look at the plastic parts' thicknesses would be all the info you'd need to tell them apart -- kit parts are 1.0-1.2 mm, and toy parts are 1.5-1.8 mm... you can't get 1.5 mm from a mold designed for 1.0 mm).

There's a pretty simple root to the assertion that Toynami used the Imai kits molds... that being that Toynami actually did purchase the molds from whoever had possession of them. The engineering of the toy is also pretty spot on to the engineering of the model which had to save Toynami some big headaches. From there they must have just attempted to recreate the model molds in a manner suitable for toys and added a few new details and did some tweaking where they saw fit. Did they physically use the model molds in the creation of the toy? No, as you say, that'd be preposterous. That being said, if you stand a built model of the Imai kit next to an MPC the similarities are scary... and the scale is the same. The original Imai kit wasn't quite 1/48 scale as advertised but it was bigger than 1/55... which is exactly why the Toynami MPC is the same.

Edited March 30, 2006 by jenius

[CoryHolmes]

Same scale, but more along the lines of what it should look like in Battloid mode without having to care about how the other modes look or how to transform into them.

I like the proportions of the MPC Battloid better.

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No denying that. It looks stockier and just plain meaner than the slender super-posable.