scand Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Well, Got my kits today! I've been looking forward to these for a long time. Major props to Myersjesse and MSLZ22 for picking these backup after the initial project. The kits are a little intimidating at first escpecially if youv'e never worked with resin before. It's not that bad though! I can see were mechamaniac was complaining about vacuming resin dust. I'm going to be coughing that poo up for the next week. The Yf-21 and YF-19 are simply beautiful. Though both kits need some major clean up. There is alot of flash to sand away and like every one has seemed to say, the pieces just don't automatically fit together. The 21 alone wil probably take a tube of putty to fill in the gaps. Not knocking the work that went in to these though. These kits are simply amazing! Also, huge to say the least. The 21 dwarfs a 1/48 Yamato. Well This is going to be my first buildup on MW so any suggestions are welcome. Quote
scand Posted January 16, 2005 Author Posted January 16, 2005 Here's another pic next to a vf-1j! Quote
scand Posted January 16, 2005 Author Posted January 16, 2005 (edited) More cleanup. Pretty much all of the pieces have alot of flash like the piece below. One thing I found though, is that the resin is real easy to sand. Suprisingly, It holds up very well too! It's nothing compared to working with a Hasegawa. Edited January 16, 2005 by scand Quote
scand Posted January 16, 2005 Author Posted January 16, 2005 (edited) This pic was taken after ten hours of work. There still along way to go. More sanding is ahead tommorow. My arm feels like it is about to fall off. Edited January 16, 2005 by scand Quote
scand Posted January 16, 2005 Author Posted January 16, 2005 (edited) Here is another pic from the top. Sorry guys I though I resized the pic. Atleast you can get plenty of detail Edited January 16, 2005 by scand Quote
Kurt Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 I just finished this and the YF-19. Do yourself and your lungs a big favor, were a surgical mask or respirator of some sort. Don't mess around resin dust. Enjoy the kit and I look forward build up. I will pop in if I have any advice. Quote
HWR MKII Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Danm snail mail. i still havnt gotten mine yet. i was hoping to have them by this weekend. its a 3 day weekend. looking good though it lets me see where ill have to put the most work into it. did you get the 19 as well or just the 21? Quote
scand Posted January 16, 2005 Author Posted January 16, 2005 Danm snail mail. i still havnt gotten mine yet. i was hoping to have them by this weekend. its a 3 day weekend. looking good though it lets me see where ill have to put the most work into it. did you get the 19 as well or just the 21? Yeah, I Got the 19 too!. I'm starting to wish I would have done that one first. The 19 has alot less major pieces. The cleanup process my have been easier. I hope you get your kits soon. They're fun and a challenge to build. Quote
zeo-mare Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 i look forward to seeing your buildup of this, by the way are these kits still available for sale? if so how much are they and who do i need to contact? thanks chris Quote
scand Posted January 16, 2005 Author Posted January 16, 2005 (edited) Chris, the original project was started last summer by mslz22 and Myersjesse. You can view the link about the project Here. You can pm them to see if the're still able to put out any more kits. Edited January 16, 2005 by scand Quote
HWR MKII Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Scand. since your doing the build up on the 21 let me have the privalage of doing the buildup on the 19. i have a technique i want to showcase on making the sensors on the nose clear red. Quote
scand Posted January 16, 2005 Author Posted January 16, 2005 Scand. since your doing the build up on the 21 let me have the privalage of doing the buildup on the 19. i have a technique i want to showcase on making the sensors on the nose clear red. I'm looking forward to seeing that. Quote
Myersjessee Posted January 19, 2005 Posted January 19, 2005 This is awesome! Thanks to both you and HWR for the build ups....Ill be watching and trying to keep up. (I just gotta reorg my work space and I finally get to build some models!! ) WOO WHOO! Quote
Gabe Q Posted January 19, 2005 Posted January 19, 2005 Scand. since your doing the build up on the 21 let me have the privalage of doing the buildup on the 19. i have a technique i want to showcase on making the sensors on the nose clear red. Mr. HWR MKII , I really admire your work and I would love to see a build up. I've never done a resin kit and I want to start on the Cat's Eye recast that I recently got. So I really, reeeeally want you to do a build up so I can apply what I learn to my kit. Mr. Scand, it looks like you really know what your doing, too. Thanks for the buildup. I will be watching with great interest. Quote
HWR MKII Posted January 19, 2005 Posted January 19, 2005 Gabe Q I have started my build thread on the 19 i dont want to take away from scands build up but in a way this mirrors the competition in the animation. Two aircraft being made at the same time. Scand i wish you the best of luck on the 21. i see what you mean abou the intakes. This shouldnt be a problem though. I dont want to hijack Scands thread so if anyone has any questions for me please PM me or post them in the 19 build thread. Sean Quote
scand Posted January 23, 2005 Author Posted January 23, 2005 I've done a little bit more work. I decided to take the time to build the landing gear up. It still not the way I want it but it's coming along. Heres a pick of the front gear doors close. I think after a paint job and a good wash these will look ok. Quote
scand Posted January 23, 2005 Author Posted January 23, 2005 Pics of the rear gear. These are giving me some trouble. I think I'm going to re-putty them and sand them down again. Quote
scand Posted January 23, 2005 Author Posted January 23, 2005 I've sprayed Tamiya primer(spray can) on the craft. I normally don't use primer. Ecspecially, spray cans. However, I had a lot of blemishes I wanted to hide from the sanding process. It seems to have worked out okay so far. Quote
scand Posted January 23, 2005 Author Posted January 23, 2005 The Canopy is proving to be a real pain in the butt. I've putty up this gap several times. During the sanding process I seem to keep pushing the putty through. Thus, leaving this gaping hole. Any Suggestions? Quote
HWR MKII Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 (edited) Try to use gap filling super glue or bondo. if that doesnt work try to debond the canopy piece and refine the fit a bit more. The problem using plastic model putty on a resin kit is that it will not bond to the resin. On plastic kite the putty is supposed to lightly melt the plastic and stick, thats why i use gap filling super glue and bondo. Edited January 23, 2005 by HWR MKII Quote
jadefalconguard Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 Hm, wth these kind of gaps I'd rather use some wite plastic to fill the opening, leaving out some of the plastic. Then sand it flush your seam is filled. Oh and use gap filling superglue (the thick one. This way you normally don't have to use filler. Quote
scand Posted January 24, 2005 Author Posted January 24, 2005 When you guys say gap-filling super glue. What do you mean? Any paticular brand I should be looking for? Quote
jadefalconguard Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 I'm in Belgium, so I think the brandnames will be completely different but I use ZAP alot (they are green) Quote
HWR MKII Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 (edited) i listed some things in my thread that you could use. I started work on my 21 as well and all i can say is the thing is a BRICK!!! It weighs a ton and gap filling superglue with bondo are definitely needed. Edited January 24, 2005 by HWR MKII Quote
scand Posted January 25, 2005 Author Posted January 25, 2005 i listed some things in my thread that you could use. I started work on my 21 as well and all i can say is the thing is a BRICK!!! It weighs a ton and gap filling superglue with bondo are definitely needed. In your opinion, do you think the 19 was easier or tougher to build? Quote
jadefalconguard Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 Geez and I thought my VF1 Recast was though Good luck, as soon as I get my camera to work I'll post some pics Quote
HWR MKII Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 as far as fit the 19 was a better build. there were no real fit problems aside from the intakes but those are mostly hidden. the 19 is a little more fragile though in terms of construction. the 21 on the other hand has more fit problems. the canopy piece, the wing to fuselage fit, the intake fronts, the bulged pieces down the sides. and the big wedge shaped piece on the botton all required some carving and shaping. i had to razor saw almost a 1/4 inch off of one side of the wedge piece so it would fit period and the panel lines would line up. in terms of fit the 19 gets a 9, the 21 gets a 7 and the VF-1 recast gets a 9.5. i base this all on the amount of carving and filling i have to do on the pieces not the amount of putty used to blend them. i know im wrambling now but as a last note to anyone who has these kits. these are recasts and in that the pieces get slightly larger and clearances get tighter because of this. fit problems are to be expected so do not let it put you off from building resin kits. P.S. im also scratch building some gunpods for my 21 since it didnt come with any. Quote
scand Posted January 25, 2005 Author Posted January 25, 2005 While your scratch building those gunpods, Can you scratch build some fast packs to go alon with them? The biggest issues for me on the 21 were the wedge shaped piece, the wings mating up to the fuselage, and the canopy I think Has taken the most time. Quote
HWR MKII Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 actually if someone has pics of the fast packe for the 21 that would be good. they may be easier to do than the gunpods. Quote
jadefalconguard Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 As far as points for the VF1 recast I'll have to agree that it's a recast and therefore has some flwas. I'm used to working with resin updatesets for aircraft and I can say that the fit and reshaping is well within the to be aspected lines As far as putty goes, I always tend to us plastic to fill up big seams, which seems to work for me. Anyhow, just my 2c Quote
HWR MKII Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 Scand We are neck and neck on the 21. im going to start base paint tomorrow. I found the best example/guide to paint this monster is WMchengs build up. Sean Quote
scand Posted January 29, 2005 Author Posted January 29, 2005 Scand We are neck and neck on the 21. im going to start base paint tomorrow. I found the best example/guide to paint this monster is WMchengs build up. Sean Man, I so wanted to try that paint scheme out. I'm a little intimidated by it though. That is the best looking Macross Model I've ever seen! I've saved every picture to my harddrive of that thing. I'm still contimplating painting the recast that way. Beetween Eat, sleep, Work, and the occasional trip to the gym, I'm having a hard time find any time to work on the 21. I'll hopefully have updated pics this weekend. I think I'm going to start painting tommorow. Quote
scand Posted January 29, 2005 Author Posted January 29, 2005 Done some work work. Here is another pic of the canopy for camparison Quote
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