areaseven Posted January 25, 2006 Author Posted January 25, 2006 Last night, TLC aired a special episode of Overhaulin'. It was a 1956 Ford pickup. But it wasn't just any ordinary pickup - it belongs to none other than Chip Foose. It turns out that while Foose & Co. were working on other overhauls, the team did a secret project with Foose's pickup without him knowing. They had local police cover up their faux theft. They even had a couple of past Overhaulin' marks help with the project. Even aftermarket specialist Jack Roush played a part on the scheme by supplying a special motor for the truck. The official website should have pics ready by the end of the week. All I have to say is that it's an awesome pickup.
Beltane70 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I'll take my worn out Chrysler before any of the Supercars...the insurance on those must be CRAZY True, but if you can afford to own one of those supercars, you can afford to insure them as well.
myk Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 no doubt, at least in the 60's and part of the 70's they had to run a similar built motor/drivetrain. I wonder how the v6 overweight monti carlo would fair 363987[/snapback] I'm not familiar with NASCAR history, as the idea of driving in circles really fast doesn't do anything for me, but weren't the cars from the 60's and 70's just race-prepped versions of the production cars? Obviously, the cars driving in circles really fast in today's NASCAR have nothing to do with production cars, other than being made on the same planet...
kanata67 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 original nascar, or whatever it was called back then, had certain requirements. I belive the one you are refering to is that for a car to enter it had to be a production model with at least 20,000 made and sold. Thats why there were 20k non-lemans gt-40's back in the day. 20k superbirds, 20k 427 vette's, etc. Trans-am series maybe...? camaro sold for a fair price. Most importantly it went to a good home. US air force c-130 gunner 3 years from retirement now a recruiter who has already restored a 57 chevy and a 69 firebird. He already had the freeze plug, trunk pan, and other bits lying around. I'll miss her but at least now she will get the attention she deserves. Hit me with a 2x4 and I might bruise, watching my camaro leave my yard on the back of a trailer had me in tears...
pfunk Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 congrats and condolences on the Camaro, glad to see its getting done by a guy who has "done it" so many people dont relize the amounts of money that go into a car. When you tell them to build a hotrod its going to cost them 10,000 in just parts and the cost of a DECENT car, they are like yeah right, I can get a motor and trans brand new for 4,000. They ussually show up with the car in peices, half the parts to do the job and a big for sale sign saying they have 10,000 in it allready. Now say you have a 69 DZ302 camaro and want it restored to factory new, parts are going to cost you double
reddsun1 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 (edited) allright, now they're just getting plain tacky. In another shameless attempt to boost sales by capitalizing on the prestige of past muscle machine nameplates, Dodge will now "re-incarnate" the Super Bee name, on the 2007 Charger platform. Apparently, it will be essentially the same as the 425hp SRT-8, but with more gaudy paint job and reminiscent decals [an attempt at making them more "collectible"?] They've already done an exercise in bad taste with the new "Daytonas," based on the Ram pickup no less--those come replete with bold paint hues, wide black stripes on the rear quarters and extremely out-of-place looking foot-tall rear wings. For Pete's sake! Stop dicking us around with nostalgic overpriced paint schemes and give us the Challenger, already! Edited January 27, 2006 by reddsun1
emajnthis Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 GM is using a retro name with a modern approach; they plan on releasing the "Stingray" based on the solstice platform, but with a more sporty look and the Cadillac 3.6liter V6 (of course no relation to the Vette, it's used to stir up interest).
myk Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Well, I suppose these companies have performed research that indicates people would be inclined to buy a retro-themed modern car. I don't understand it, and I would never follow suit with their plans and buy such a car for the sake of it's nostalgaic value; I would buy the new "Super Bee" for example, just because I happen to like the platform and the sheetmetal...
reddsun1 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 I'm just not feelin' the new 599 for some reason. It looks like the stylist was trying to be more "edgy" [literally: so many crisp, sharp detail lines!] than evokative or emotional with the body--and we all know the great Italian cars are about passion. I'd take the 550 Maranello over that any day of the week.
myk Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) That's not the new Ferrari, it's a photoshopped job on the new Eclipse with Ferrari logos on it... Ah whatever, it's allright... Edited January 31, 2006 by myk
emajnthis Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 What's up with the pentagram wheels? I'm just waiting for two more cars to be officially made now that the ZO6 has been beefed up. The 500hp/torque GT500 and the Nissan/Infiniti Skyline GT-R... and also on a side note, the GT-R is NOT built on the 350Z/G35 chassis. It has a completely new chassis design specifically built for this car and this car alone which is why the price is what it is (since it doesn't fit within typical production). As soon as these two are made, then at some point Dodge will either have to bring out the challenger, or do something amazing to the Viper (within affordable means... the Venom is hardly what i would consider "affordable").
trueblueeyes Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) Didn't the Shelby GT500 #0001 already sell at a Barrett Jackson auction for $600,000+ ? (googled it...$648.000.00 exactly...at least it is going to benefit a charity. Still no way I'd pay that much for a Mustang) We were initially told we could secure one for less than a $5,000 markup over base from our dealer. Now they say it could be $10,000 or more. For that, they can keep it. Edited January 31, 2006 by trueblueeyes
myk Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Oh, we've only begun to see outrageous Mustang pricing...
trueblueeyes Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Just thought I would throw this in the thread: I am looking for a clean, very low mileage 1993 Cobra. Any color (black, red, or teal), and any options (leather, sunroof..). If there is one in your area, please PM me. No high mileage beaters. Also would be interested in a low mileage 03-04 Cobra.
emajnthis Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) Well all things considered, the GT500 is $44,000, where the ZO6 is $63,000 and the ZO6 is definitely not leaving the lot at 63, so i'd highly doubt the GT500 would leave (unless you work at the dealership) for that same price. But considering that the 500 is supercharged, there's so much more horsepower you could grab out of that motor without causing it any extra stress or reinforcement. Where as to get the extra horsepower out of the Vette you have to twin turbo it, which is a tall and expensive order on all accounts. People give the 03-04 Cobra's a hard time, but they really weren't as fickle as people claim they are. My friend from high school got one as a college graduation gift, and has had no problems since delivery. I think anyone who experiences problems with their sports car obviously isn't treating it the way it's suppose to. It really brings back the amount of people who have absolutely NO idea how to care for a turbo or supercharged car. Edited January 31, 2006 by emajnthis
yellowlightman Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Just thought I would throw this in the thread: I am looking for a clean, very low mileage 1993 Cobra. Any color (black, red, or teal), and any options (leather, sunroof..). If there is one in your area, please PM me. No high mileage beaters. Also would be interested in a low mileage 03-04 Cobra. 364932[/snapback] Don't you guys already have like two Cobra's and two Lightnings?
glane21 Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Didn't the Shelby GT500 #0001 already sell at a Barrett Jackson auction for $600,000+ ? (googled it...$648.000.00 exactly...at least it is going to benefit a charity. Still no way I'd pay that much for a Mustang)We were initially told we could secure one for less than a $5,000 markup over base from our dealer. Now they say it could be $10,000 or more. For that, they can keep it. 364929[/snapback] Don't get caught up in the hype and by next model year, you can snag one at a discount. People who go on waiting lists are the dealers' wet dream. Look at the goofy bastards that paid 2x sticker for a PT Cruiser which you can now buy all day at $8k. I know people see Shelby and start pissing themselves. A lot of these will be bought and immediately stored for collectabilty. But thats a bad investment IMO. Ford will crank out a ton of these compared to the production numbers on the originals. They won't be rare for a very long time.
yellowlightman Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Don't get caught up in the hype and by next model year, you can snag one at a discount. People who go on waiting lists are the dealers' wet dream. Look at the goofy bastards that paid 2x sticker for a PT Cruiser which you can now buy all day at $8k. Yeah, unless it's a limited edition there's absolutely no reason to pay dealer markup. I know people see Shelby and start pissing themselves. A lot of these will be bought and immediately stored for collectabilty. But thats a bad investment IMO. Ford will crank out a ton of these compared to the production numbers on the originals. They won't be rare for a very long time. 364968[/snapback] Unless you're dealing with very rare, very expensive cars, automobiles are a shitty investment. Not to mention I have a problem with all but the most rare cars not being driven, I mean.. they're cars. Drive the damned things.
ComicKaze Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) Ford still needs to give the Mustang a real chassis and a differential that wasn't decades old. The Viper needs a better suspension too. American cars have a well deserved reputation for being fast in a straight line and rubbish elsewhere because of cheap 70s engineering like solid back diffs and leafsprings. I suppose this is what American Automakers must do to keep costs down and stay in business but it's not helping their image for those in the know. Then again, people who love muscle cars wouldn't have it any other way. Edited January 31, 2006 by ComicKaze
yellowlightman Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Ford still needs to give the Mustang a real chassis and a differential that wasn't decades old. The Viper needs a better suspension too. American cars have a well deserved reputation for being fast in a straight line and rubbish elsewhere because of cheap 70s engineering like solid back diffs and leafsprings. 364979[/snapback] Yeah, leafsprings are why the Z06 is so slow around a track.
Phyrox Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Ford still needs to give the Mustang a real chassis and a differential that wasn't decades old. The Viper needs a better suspension too. American cars have a well deserved reputation for being fast in a straight line and rubbish elsewhere because of cheap 70s engineering like solid back diffs and leafsprings. 364979[/snapback] Yeah, leafsprings are why the Z06 is so slow around a track. 364988[/snapback] Seriously. And don't forget, one of those "rubbish" vipers won La Mans. I remember all the excitement when a Mustang varient (cobra R?) pulled 1.0 on the skidpad not too long ago. American cars haven't really been known for only going fast in a straight line since the real muscle cars of old. Now, their performance cars are fairly well rounded.
ComicKaze Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) Ford still needs to give the Mustang a real chassis and a differential that wasn't decades old. The Viper needs a better suspension too. American cars have a well deserved reputation for being fast in a straight line and rubbish elsewhere because of cheap 70s engineering like solid back diffs and leafsprings. 364979[/snapback] Yeah, leafsprings are why the Z06 is so slow around a track. 364988[/snapback] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...p+Gear+Corvette Okay fine it's fast. But only because the engine is so sick. And I don't think the one in the video has the LS7. Edited January 31, 2006 by ComicKaze
myk Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) The Z06 has leafsprings...I don't get it-I thought that technology was replaced by coil springs along with IRS, years ago? Edited January 31, 2006 by myk
trueblueeyes Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Well all things considered, the GT500 is $44,000, where the ZO6 is $63,000 and the ZO6 is definitely not leaving the lot at 63, so i'd highly doubt the GT500 would leave (unless you work at the dealership) for that same price. But considering that the 500 is supercharged, there's so much more horsepower you could grab out of that motor without causing it any extra stress or reinforcement. Where as to get the extra horsepower out of the Vette you have to twin turbo it, which is a tall and expensive order on all accounts. 364940[/snapback] It just bothers me after we were told they could intially guarantee the car for 5K over MSRP. We've done a lot of business with this dealership over the past few years. I think we will go elsewhere for our next purchase. (I understand the feeding frenzy, and wouldn't have been upset if we had been told the truth initially)
myk Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 The dealer should have known better. When the latest Mustang debuted I had heard of markups in that range in the first few months of its arrival, let alone the return of the GT-500...
trueblueeyes Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) Just thought I would throw this in the thread: I am looking for a clean, very low mileage 1993 Cobra. Any color (black, red, or teal), and any options (leather, sunroof..). If there is one in your area, please PM me. No high mileage beaters. Also would be interested in a low mileage 03-04 Cobra. 364932[/snapback] Don't you guys already have like two Cobra's and two Lightnings? 364955[/snapback] We do have two Lightnings (95 & '03), but only one Cobra ('97). The two older vehicles are basically worthless though since the market for 93-98 L's and 96-98 Cobras regularly has mint examples selling for way less than 10K. (And ours are far from mint...I'm more the "drive the wheels off" than "pamper and trailer" type of owner.) I just want a '93 since it was SVT's first Cobra. (And because the IRS didn't hit us as hard this year). ________________________________________ And I couldn't agree more about vehicles being terrible investments. One idiot in town is a perfect example: He bought a '96 Mystic Cobra (the one with the color changing paint) new and kept it garaged. The thing has less than 8,000 miles on the odometer and he can't even sell it for 14K...(it has been up for almost a year...and he was so sure he was going to make money...funny thing is he can't even recoup less than half of the initial price.) Another guy on one of the Mustang Forums has bought all three Cobra R's to keep garaged. (93, 95, 2000) He picked them all up when they were new...and of course paid a premium to get each one. The only one worth more than what he paid is the 93R. Truth is, you can pick up a 95 or 2000R for less than what they sold for new. But he is so certain his "investments" will secure his retirement that he added a Ford GT to the garage so he can look at it too. ...At least he will have some nice cars to sleep in when he looses everything else... Serves them all right! Cars are meant to be driven, not looked at. I think part of the time though, the "it's an investment" tag line is just an excuse to justify a purchase to the significant other. Edited January 31, 2006 by trueblueeyes
trueblueeyes Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 The dealer should have known better. When the latest Mustang debuted I had heard of markups in that range in the first few months of its arrival, let alone the return of the GT-500... 365054[/snapback] I just think it is funny how Shelby and Ford are crawling up each other's butts to make a dime when they were slugging it out in court not that many moons ago. Did anybody not see something like this coming with the '05 Stang's retro styling? (not to mention Ford pimping the Bullitt and Mach 1 mustangs in the previous body style) Wonder how much the Blue Oval is paying Shelby to slap his name on the car? Certainly enough to make him forget that he once vowed to never work with Ford again. I wouldn't be suprised if we saw other new Mustangs based on the older cars. They'll milk the retro theme for every dime they can get out of it.
myk Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) What happened with Shelby and Ford, anyway? As for the retro-styled Mustang, I can't think of a greater cash cow or smashing hit of a car design in the last 20 years such as this one; the situation couldn't possibly be any better than right now, although I wonder what other variants they could come up with. Another BOSS, MACH 1, KR, etc? Edited January 31, 2006 by myk
trueblueeyes Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Just found this: AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT'S MORE BORING THAN NASCAR Just thought it was cute. Not trying to piss anybody off. I've taken some decongestant that has me bouncing off the walls so I can't sleep.
trueblueeyes Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 What happened with Shelby and Ford, anyway? As for the retro-styled Mustang, I can't think of a greater cash cow or smashing hit of a car design in the last 20 years such as this one; the situation couldn't possibly be any better than right now... 365075[/snapback] He sued over Ford using the "GT350" name on a mustang during the mid-eighties...some anniversary mustang. It was settled a few years later, but Shelby wasn't very happy with the Ford brass after that. Amazing how money can soothe hurt feelings.
Gaijin Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Just found this: AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT'S MORE BORING THAN NASCARJust thought it was cute. Not trying to piss anybody off. I've taken some decongestant that has me bouncing off the walls so I can't sleep. 365076[/snapback] lol. Thanks, that was pretty good.
KingNor Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 What do you guys think of this? The front end looks a little forced to me but i do like the over all shape of the body.
Agent ONE Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 What do you guys think of this?The front end looks a little forced to me but i do like the over all shape of the body. 365119[/snapback] Its extreem, but I like it. I think if it said Ferrari, people would be all over it. And since I am not a lable whore, I can admit thats its cool.
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