VF-0B 1/72 finished.

[U.N.N.GhostRider303 VF-0]

I keep wondering if the VF-0B was designed to be the VF-series lead-in trainer, before the VF-1D and VT-1 rolled off the lines--the 0B would have been closer in spec to a 'standard' fighter for most pilots, and thus would provide a good transitional traning a/c before moving into flying the VF-1.

Its kind of pointless to try and figure out why things are the way they are in Macross lol I used to think about this kind of stuff all the time, and eventually I got to the point where it didn't matter any more. I don't think the VF-0A two seater was meant for training, if that was the case the 0D, even though its a supposed electronic warefare aircraft, would also be a training aircraft mainly because we've seen Shin training in it. I honestly think the 0A two seater was meant for jobs that most two seater fighters were meant for, aside from electronic warfare stuff the 0D does. Make sense?

[U.N.N.GhostRider303 VF-0]

by the way Daaaaaaaaamn nice kit man!!!!! lol

[wm cheng]

Fantastic work Grayson!!

Wow, nice photos too... I'm envious you're starting to work through your collection. Man! what are you doing, you were my excuse to my wife; "see, he just collects also - we don't have time to actually build!?"

Keep up the great work - and keep posting.

Thanks.

[Ignacio Ocamica]

Perfection!!!

Shot 2... incredible

Each time I see the VF-0B it goes up in my list of favorites.

[rpayne20]

Great job!!!! I am envious of your building talent. I think with the talent you and Wm Cheng one of you should write a how to book on the techniques you use to get such great results. I am bummed that Wm Cheng's build-ups from the old board are unaccessable, alot of good info gone Keep up the good work, it gives me something to shoot for.......

[Skull Leader]

I keep wondering if the VF-0B was designed to be the VF-series lead-in trainer, before the VF-1D and VT-1 rolled off the lines--the 0B would have been closer in spec to a 'standard' fighter for most pilots, and thus would provide a good transitional traning a/c before moving into flying the VF-1.

*cries out in agony* GAHHH! The VF-1D is *NOT* a dedicated trainer! We've been over this a million and one times! We've had multiple threads (see THIS thread, we went on forever about it) before and I thought we had come to the conclusion that the VF-1D is NOT just a trainer! The VF-1D is no more a trainer for pilots than any other 2 seater aircraft is. It is capable of being fully armed (unlike the VT-1, which WAS a trainer), and CF VF-1Ds were seen in the series (more specifically, during Max and Milia's wedding.. when they themselves flew in a VF-1D painted in Max colors.. and later fought in it), sure.. some may have been assigned to training wings and RAGs, but that doesn't mean it's a "trainer".

Edited November 27, 2004 by Skull Leader

[Coota0]

No not the trainer thread again! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Next it will be about the VF-0B. HELP MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[whytwolf]

I keep wondering if the VF-0B was designed to be the VF-series lead-in trainer, before the VF-1D and VT-1 rolled off the lines--the 0B would have been closer in spec to a 'standard' fighter for most pilots, and thus would provide a good transitional traning a/c before moving into flying the VF-1.

*cries out in agony* GAHHH! The VF-1D is *NOT* a dedicated trainer! We've been over this a million and one times! We've had multiple threads (see THIS thread, we went on forever about it) before and I thought we had come to the conclusion that the VF-1D is NOT just a trainer! The VF-1D is no more a trainer for pilots than any other 2 seater aircraft is. It is capable of being fully armed (unlike the VT-1, which WAS a trainer), and CF VF-1Ds were seen in the series (more specifically, during Max and Milia's wedding.. when they themselves flew in a VF-1D painted in Max colors.. and later fought in it), sure.. some may have been assigned to training wings and RAGs, but that doesn't mean it's a "trainer".

Sorry, that thread was a bit before my time and thus I ended up missing out on all the dead-horse-beating fun

Didn't mean to re-open old wounds. In the end, all I was asking was, with all the advanced OT instrumentality that could be put into the valks, is there really a reason for a two-seater for purposes other than training?

Guess, i got my answer

[Skull Leader]

well, in an ACM situation, 2 pairs of eyes beats one!

[azrael]

Geez, it's gonna take a generation or 2 to remove that "VF-1D == trainer" crap.

Oh, the VF-0B is official.

http://www.anime.net/macross/mecha/united_.../vf0/index.html

However, since the VF-0B is nothing more than a VF-0A with a second seat.... Also the VF-0D is not just for electronic warfare, it is also designed with enhanced combat in mind.

VF-0D: UN Spacy two-seater version designed and manufactured by Northrop Grumman/Stonewell/Bellcom for enhanced attack and electronic warfare capabilities. Increased air combat maneuverability and 20% greater payload as well as improved electronic warfare capabilities. Shares largely the same nose block, dorsal block, and Battroid-mode leg section/enginge block. High-maneuverability canard and clipped delta wing with dogtooth edge and large wing area.

Also, did it ever spark something up there that Shin was flying a VF-0D, not because he was training in it, but because that was his permanent assignment?

[HWR MKII]

the F15E is a dedicated 2 seater and in no way a trainer. so i guess that the VF-0B and VF-1D should be considered the macross version of that acft.

excellent model by the way. the color scheme is striking and vivid. i know its difficult to pull off a good white paint job and keep it clean like you did.lets see some more, maybe a build off between you and WM kind of like the great biker build off just macross.

Edited November 28, 2004 by HWR MKII