Grayson72 Posted November 23, 2004 Posted November 23, 2004 Ok finally finished this one, was pretty fun to build, easier than the VF-1 series too. The color scheme and the decals were a lot of fun too. Quote
Less than Super Ostrich Posted November 23, 2004 Posted November 23, 2004 Great job, Grayson. By the way... I thought you were just a buyer... good to see you are a builder too! Great stuff. Those seams on the VF-0B are very well sealed! And you kept the panel lines!! That's usually my biggest problem. Quote
Grayson72 Posted November 23, 2004 Author Posted November 23, 2004 Thanks, I had to rescribe the panel lines but the right tools always makes it easy. This makes model number 8 that I've done in two years, only 170 more to go . Quote
AlphaHX Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Great job, Grayson. By the way... I thought you were just a buyer... good to see you are a builder too! Great stuff. Those seams on the VF-0B are very well sealed! And you kept the panel lines!! That's usually my biggest problem. Wow... sweet Grayson. Very nice. I thought that most buyers were builders. I never saw the point of buying a bunch of models but never building them. You can never appreciate it that way imo. I'm sure most are just not as willing to post pictures... like me. I'll post pictures... eventually. Quote
VF-19 pilot!!! Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 great job grayson!!! i love to see more people are building, keep it up! alan. Quote
neptunesurvey Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 (edited) Very nice. Its interesting to see the size difference between the VF-1 and VF-0. Edited November 24, 2004 by neptunesurvey Quote
Myersjessee Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Man Grayson...your making me feel worse about my 2 models in 2 years! LOL GREAT WORK BUDDY! Quote
cobywan Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Thanks, I had to rescribe the panel lines but the right tools always makes it easy.This makes model number 8 that I've done in two years, only 170 more to go . You are doing WAY better than I have been. Quote
astromanED Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 wicked tight piece. I'll be studying your pics for when I do mine. Thanks Quote
Gabe Q Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Thanks, I had to rescribe the panel lines but the right tools always makes it easy. What tools do you use to rescribe the panel lines? And, where can I get 'em? BTW, great job on that valk. How about a line-up photo of all your finished 1/72 scale models? Quote
Grayson72 Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 For panel line scribing I use several tools, one is a set of Hasegawa line scribing saws I got from HLJ. I also have various other scribing tools I got from that hobbysearch.com store. They've got great tools. Here's the line up not including the B that was just done. Quote
Grayson72 Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 Here's a shot of some of my tools I posted in another thread. Quote
rarityraider Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Very nice work, Grayson. I'm starting to like this model after seeing your work. Quote
Stamen0083 Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 A painted VF-0B! Thank heavens. Good job. What's with the missing tow bar though? Quote
Grayson72 Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 Oh crap, I gotta find that, it broke off a long time ago and I completely forgot about it. Thanks! Quote
whytwolf Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Grayson, that's a great 0B! I've got mine waiting in its box for its shot at the construction table, and I hope that I can do it the kind of justice that you have On a side note, we didn't actually see the 0B in Macross Zero did we? The only two-seater I recall was the 0D. Where did the B come from? Hasegawa's imagination? Is it supposed to be a trainer? I assume that the tandem cockpit of the D was to mimic the Tomcat, but the F-14 needs a back-seater for interception and weapons operations duties. The replacement in the fleet, the F-18E uses advanced computer guided weapons in place of a back-seater. Why would the 0D or 0B need a tandem crew? Inquiring minds want to know Sean Quote
Grayson72 Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 (edited) Thanks for the kind words, I have no idea where this version came from cuz it wasn't in the video's. It is the SPW, the Space Proving Wing. So I imagine these would be fitted with the nuclear engines and will be their first foray into space. Maybe you need a two man crew for space ventures? One to fly and one to collect data or something. Edited November 24, 2004 by Grayson72 Quote
U.N.N.GhostRider303 VF-0 Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Hasegawa didn't make up the two seater. The compendium says that a two seater VF-0A exists. I have a nice picture of one, but in all honesty its too huge to post, but if you look for my Episode 5 color scheme thread you might be able to catch a glimpse of what I'm talking about. Anyway, Hase dubbed the model 0B so that it wasn't confused with 0A, but again in all actuality 0B is the two seater 0A. Hope that helps. Quote
AlphaHX Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Hasegawa didn't make up the two seater. The compendium says that a two seater VF-0A exists. I have a nice picture of one, but in all honesty its too huge to post, but if you look for my Episode 5 color scheme thread you might be able to catch a glimpse of what I'm talking about. Anyway, Hase dubbed the model 0B so that it wasn't confused with 0A, but again in all actuality 0B is the two seater 0A. Hope that helps. ill post it then. Quote
U.N.N.GhostRider303 VF-0 Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Ya gotta love Alpha. He's always got me covered. Want to go into war with me bro? Quote
whytwolf Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 (edited) Hmm, interesting. I can understand why Hasegawa would give a different Alpha designator to the two-seater--most military a/c are designated in such a manner (The F-18D is the two-seat trainer version of the F-18C), but that still doesn't answer the question of why a back seat was added? I keep wondering if the VF-0B was designed to be the VF-series lead-in trainer, before the VF-1D and VT-1 rolled off the lines--the 0B would have been closer in spec to a 'standard' fighter for most pilots, and thus would provide a good transitional traning a/c before moving into flying the VF-1. Just a thought. Sean on edit: Thanks for the pic AlphaHX! Edited November 24, 2004 by whytwolf Quote
AlphaHX Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Ya gotta love Alpha. He's always got me covered. Want to go into war with me bro? hahaha, convince my parents first. Quote
Ido Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Very clean work, love this model IMO so far the Vf-0B is the most real looking fighter in Macross. Quote
hellohikaru Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 For certain missions a second crew member is desirable. For instance when operating weapons like a Maverick in a fast jet like the F-16 it is very difficult to fly and target small vehicles like tanks. The A-10 flies slow enough for this though. This is even more important when flying in adverse weather and at night. The French AF ordering more 2 seater Rafale is an indication of this trend. Quote
whytwolf Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 This is even more important when flying in adverse weather and at night. The French AF ordering more 2 seater Rafale is an indication of this trend. I would expect the VF series of fighters to have advanced cmputer systems, thust making a second crew member redundant. However, if they did provide a back-seater for bad weather/night operations or other reasons, why didn't those design considerations carry through to the VF-1 series? Only the trainers have a tandem cockpit--not even the ELINT Valks have a second crew member (although the Cat's Eye does) Just doesn't make much sense to me unless they're meant to be trainers. Sean Quote
Grayson72 Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 Actually the Elintseeker does have two crew members. Quote
dyowelb Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 really great work chad....so when are we going to see the finisihed gbp??? Quote
Grayson72 Posted November 24, 2004 Author Posted November 24, 2004 Ooooh I can't believe you remembered that. It's like 90% complete, I have to attach the fastpacks on the back and then what's really holding me up is the last arm armor. The first one was such a pain I'm dreading doing the other side . Quote
whytwolf Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Actually the Elintseeker does have two crew members. My Bad. I stand corrected. That said, I'm thinking an ELINT version of the 0B would look REALLY cool as a conversion Sean Quote
dyowelb Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Ooooh I can't believe you remembered that. It's like 90% complete, I have to attach the fastpacks on the back and then what's really holding me up is the last arm armor. The first one was such a pain I'm dreading doing the other side . how can i forget that. i bookmarked it 3 times .. so got any pix??? Quote
Gabe Q Posted November 24, 2004 Posted November 24, 2004 Nice lineup Grayson. Thanks for showing off your tools, too. Quote
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