AlphaHX Posted November 21, 2004 Author Posted November 21, 2004 Oh like that hasn't been obvious over the last ten or so years, with the Master-Piece-Of-Crap models, the re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-mastering of their DVDs, and the overall quality of their work. They'll do anything for a quick buck. The ugliest head definately has to be the Masterpiece VF-1R "Jack Archer" model made by Harmony Gold. It's beyond ugly, it just looks like someone's been drawing VF-1A's without their glasses. do you have a problem with everyone on the board or something? some people arent "aware" of everything as you are. calm down. Quote
Wesker99 Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 Definatly the VF-1D, followed closely by the VF-1A Quote
CoryHolmes Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 Or this... the palladium books concoction.http://www.robotechresearch.com/rpg/mecha/...f-1r/vf_1r.html That's a fan creation. Not from the RPG at all, just using the stats for the system. Quote
ewilen Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 (edited) According to these sundry threads, the non-HG/non-animation mistake VF-1R is in some of the early Macross games for PC Engine. http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=9476&hl= http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=5817&hl= http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=4848&hl= http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=3358&hl= In other words it's non-canon but semi-official design (in the sense that it appeared in Big West-sanctioned products), something like the VF-1SOL. Also see http://www.gearsonline.net/macross/2036.php Edited November 22, 2004 by ewilen Quote
macplus Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 Or this... the palladium books concoction. http://www.robotechresearch.com/rpg/mecha/...f-1r/vf_1r.html Man, that site is one of the sorriest ripoffs I've ever seen... no wonder is robotech... they even named one valk "Kawamori"... what kind of vermin made such crap? it's one of the things that truely makes me happy I'm on the macross side, it's the true side, not that turd and complete ripoff of designs that never had anything to do with that POS we all know.... Robosh.it. I wonder if the guys who made that site have any soul... what a lame excuse of a site is that... Quote
peter Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 Or this... the palladium books concoction. http://www.robotechresearch.com/rpg/mecha/...f-1r/vf_1r.html Man, that site is one of the sorriest ripoffs I've ever seen... no wonder is robotech... they even named one valk "Kawamori"... what kind of vermin made such crap? it's one of the things that truely makes me happy I'm on the macross side, it's the true side, not that turd and complete ripoff of designs that never had anything to do with that POS we all know.... Robosh.it. I wonder if the guys who made that site have any soul... what a lame excuse of a site is that... Careful, don't want to be too nasty to those Robotechers. I got accused for trolling by some nut in another topic. Quote
Prime Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 Or this... the palladium books concoction. http://www.robotechresearch.com/rpg/mecha/...f-1r/vf_1r.html Man, that site is one of the sorriest ripoffs I've ever seen... no wonder is robotech... they even named one valk "Kawamori"... what kind of vermin made such crap? it's one of the things that truely makes me happy I'm on the macross side, it's the true side, not that turd and complete ripoff of designs that never had anything to do with that POS we all know.... Robosh.it. I wonder if the guys who made that site have any soul... what a lame excuse of a site is that... Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think. Quote
macplus Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 Althoug I'm mentioned Robotech as crap on my above post actually what really my message is that they not only took the designs that appear in RT and that they are legally able to use as roboturd things but they also took, renamed and included in their sorry story other designs that has nothing to do with'em, that's what really pisses me, it's like I start my own mecha story and use all the gundams as my own designs.. really, that's really shamefull, they should stick with what they have and include designs made by'em, terrible... And about geting accused for trolling I really don't care since this is a forum and one of it's purposes is that people stand their opinions, actually indirectly everybody here is like a group of friends so no big deal. Quote
jipe Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 From Bandai Entertainment Bible 51 (page 26). Not exactly the RT VF 1R Quote
AlphaHX Posted November 22, 2004 Author Posted November 22, 2004 (edited) From Bandai Entertainment Bible 51 (page 26). Not exactly the RT VF 1RÂ do you have a large scan of that? Edited November 22, 2004 by AlphaHX Quote
jipe Posted November 22, 2004 Posted November 22, 2004 do you have a large scan of that? Yes, 602 Ko, you want this one here on the forum or by email ? Quote
Seven Posted November 23, 2004 Posted November 23, 2004 If I'm not mistaken, those look like the Valkryies from the video game Macross 2036... Quote
jipe Posted November 23, 2004 Posted November 23, 2004 Seven Posted on Nov 23 2004, 12:26 AM  If I'm not mistaken, those look like the Valkryies from the video game Macross 2036... I guess they are. Quote
Ido Posted November 23, 2004 Posted November 23, 2004 (edited) Yes, its from MAcross 2036 and its name is VF-1SR http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/magazi...2-hj-page13.jpg Edited November 23, 2004 by Ido Quote
sidearmsalpha Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 I dislike the YF-21's head, but the VF-22's is probably my favorite.Screw functionality when it doesn't look good. Pretty can be functional too. PS: Sound Force Valks are supposed to be used for pyschological warfare, so that excuses the use of humanoid faces on them I totally agree! The 21 looks ugly while the 22 looks cool somehow It's the visor that makes it look better in my opinion. Visors on robots are cool. The 21 just looks to goofy with that featureless head. Quote
sidearmsalpha Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 (edited) Hey, does anyone know if the Valkyries from the Super Famicom Macross game are considered cannon? On the art on the box, manual, and before-level screens, they show a VF-1S that has a noticeably different head and fast packs. Edited December 3, 2004 by sidearmsalpha Quote
JB0 Posted December 3, 2004 Posted December 3, 2004 I vote that the ugly award goes to the VF-1A. And to it's close relative, the VF-11, which is actually uglier(and suspiciously similar to Rawbooteck's YF-1R...). Quote
TehPW Posted December 4, 2004 Posted December 4, 2004 I vote that the ugly award goes to the VF-1A. And to it's close relative, the VF-11, which is actually uglier(and suspiciously similar to Rawbooteck's YF-1R...). don't assume that the VF-11 was ripped off from the what ever Robotech item you refer too. check your time lines. it's clear when the chicken and eggs achieved their orgasms... Quote
JB0 Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 I vote that the ugly award goes to the VF-1A. And to it's close relative, the VF-11, which is actually uglier(and suspiciously similar to Rawbooteck's YF-1R...). don't assume that the VF-11 was ripped off from the what ever Robotech item you refer too. check your time lines. it's clear when the chicken and eggs achieved their orgasms... I KNOW that. I was TRYING to suggest the possibility that Rawbooteck ripped the VF-11 head off for the YF-1R. Quote
Boxer Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 Many a Rabbltetech fansite has adopted the VF-11 as It-R-Canon. Of course they also adopt a lot of things they don't even use correctly in their RPGs. The ugliest head would have to be the VF-4, IMO, at least the only variant that's been seen so far. The runer up goes to the VF-5000. Quote
Prime Posted December 6, 2004 Posted December 6, 2004 I was TRYING to suggest the possibility that Rawbooteck ripped the VF-11 head off for the YF-1R. IIRC I think the developers mentioned that it was acutally based off an animation mistake. Sorry I don't have a link for you... Quote
JB0 Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 I was TRYING to suggest the possibility that Rawbooteck ripped the VF-11 head off for the YF-1R. IIRC I think the developers mentioned that it was acutally based off an animation mistake. Sorry I don't have a link for you... Yes they did. And I don't doubt that's true, to a small degree. I mean, it DOES have the 3 head guns... But as has been pointed out, the YF-1R head bears very little resemblence to the animation error in question(which would have given it a 1A head between its side lasers). So I ask... would YOU admit that you were thiefing design elements from other sources? ... Even knowing HG(We can't steal from Macross because we OWN Macross!), they wouldn't, just because it covers their asses should Big West decide to sue them. They claim it's based on the VF-1A animation goof, which they actually have (non-exclusive) rights to. Then steal the VF-11 head, because "Big West can't copyright a hexagon LOLOL". Personally, I think the VF-11 similarity is too strong to just ignore. Quote
Roy Fokker Posted December 10, 2004 Posted December 10, 2004 I'm all for the fin thing, but still, I'm not keen on any of the heads of the Soundforce Valkyries. Of course, my leanings are towards the more utilitarian designs. The VF-21/2, the VF-1A (DYRL? version), the VF-11 are some of my favourite head designs. Ditto I'm also quite partial to the DYRL versions. Never, ever liked the Soundforce valks. Ever. Quote
Prime Posted December 10, 2004 Posted December 10, 2004 Personally, I think the VF-11 similarity is too strong to just ignore. You could be right, of course. Quote
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