Panzer Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 don't anyone take my idea here.. but if someone had access to a printer that could print on big sheets of card stock and if they could get someone to make the styrofoam whats stopping someone from throwing a re-issue into a fake box and selling it for hundreds of dollars on ebay? even making a fake instruction sheet wouldn't be hard. if someone wasn't really educated about valks i guess they wouldn't know that the '80s toys didn't have tampo printing and they'd think they were getting an original. just an evil thought.. Quote
sleddogg83 Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Most people not seasoned enough to know better would buy the reissue . . . Whats stopping someone is FRAUD. Quote
EXO Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 If you are willing to pay takatoku prices, then that means you know you're looking for a takatoku... if a seller tries to pass of a bandai reissue as a taka, then they don't know jack sh!t about takas or bandai reissues for that matter. Now if a buyer is willing to pay for a taka without knowing the difference, then maybe, just maybe they deserve to be ripped off... why would someone even do that? Quote
zeo-mare Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 from now on i guess i am going to have to keep my eyes really open if i decide to buy a original Valk any time soon Quote
zeo-mare Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 all the logos and dates and Trademarks printed on the Valk itself will be easy to spot as well. Quote
Panzer Posted October 12, 2004 Author Posted October 12, 2004 well that was my question, i figured the originals had to have some differences from the re-ishs. i don't think it would be too hard to print a 90's bandai strike box tho. and all the other printing issues like the BW stickers i think would be possible to get around. the styrofoam tho would be the tough part. i have no idea how you would get that made. sorry bout the evil thread Quote
Jolly Rogers Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Dude, the Bandai reissues had tons of markings PRINTED on the friggin' toy itself, unlike the Taka original which came practically naked. Not to mention the forearm has been resculpted for the reissues so you can't fit the Taka GBP armor on them. Only a complete noob would be unable to tell the difference between them regardless of the boxes they come in. Quote
hirohawa Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Note to self: Do not buy any Takatoku valks from Panzer. Quote
Mechamaniac Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Dude, the Bandai reissues had tons of markings PRINTED on the friggin' toy itself, unlike the Taka original which came practically naked. Not only that, but the Takatoku Valks actually had TAKATOKU molded into the plastic on the inside of the back plate. Quote
Bluedeath Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 (edited) Dude, the Bandai reissues had tons of markings PRINTED on the friggin' toy itself, unlike the Taka original which came practically naked. Not to mention the forearm has been resculpted for the reissues so you can't fit the Taka GBP armor on them. Only a complete noob would be unable to tell the difference between them regardless of the boxes they come in. Just one correction AFAIK GBP1 fits on reissue with no problems. Personally the only taka vf1 that I own is the 1s that i had when i was a child, and still of course my favourite valk. But I prefer reissues cause they are far better than originals. I know that taka valks have an higher value for collectors this is the point, a collector that can't spot the difference between takatoku and bandai reissues maybe deserve to be tricked. Edited October 12, 2004 by Bluedeath Quote
Jawjaw Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 If somone was out to rip you off, they would just steal pictures and take the money. I doubt anyone would go through that much trouble and investment to make a few bucks. Quote
Panzer Posted October 12, 2004 Author Posted October 12, 2004 thanks for answering my questions.. "politely" it seems like some of you guys see a "newb" i.e. someone with not a lot of posts and you all just step all over their balls about practically any topic they might start. notta good way to keep macross alive i guess i had a 1990 bandai in mind more than a takatoku. don't cry tho, no ones making making or selling fake valks, so no worries. it was just a question i threw out there that i was curious about, i happen to be a graphic designer with experience in printing and was just thinking theoretically about the possibilities of something like this. now lets get happy and positive.. Quote
CID Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 If someone does not know too much about valks, they buy plasitc VF-1S for $20-40 thinking it was reissue. It happens and what can you do. However, the buyer has responsibility to know well enough to pay for an item that is hovering around $80-160. If you are asking how to tell diff. One has stamp of Taka T/T and another one has Bandai satmp. Quote
Graham Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 i don't think it would be too hard to print a 90's bandai strike box tho. There's no such things as a 90's Bandai Strike Valk. I think you mean the 90's Bandai Super Valk Graham Quote
Panzer Posted October 13, 2004 Author Posted October 13, 2004 yeah, thats what i meant. the box with the nice big painting of the VF-1S on it. Quote
Skull Leader Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 cockpits would also be another dead giveaway... the indentions on the side of the canopy. These are there for removal so you can replace it with the heatshield... these indentions aren't there on the originals. Quote
Valk009 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 If you want you can use my time-machine and go back to the early '80s and get yourself dozens of Takas This will save you much of the hassle, I mean that is how I get mine Quote
hirohawa Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Can I use it also. Does your time machine only go back to the eighties or can I go back further back in time as well? Quote
Panzer Posted October 13, 2004 Author Posted October 13, 2004 very nice. if its cool i'd like to do whatever forrest gump did in that movie to get rich like buy some stock in Apple. i'll only need to borrow it for a few hours.. PM me if you think thats gonna be ok Quote
Guppy Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 .. and just before you get back to the present in your time machine stop off around June/July last year and pick me up 20 low viz 1/48's from Hong Kong. Thanks! Quote
EXO Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 you can probably make enough money if you can make Taka style boxes of your own design.... of course this would take a lot of money to begin with... Quote
Valk009 Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 (edited) .. and just before you get back to the present in your time machine stop off around June/July last year and pick me up 20 low viz 1/48's from Hong Kong. I actually live in Hong Kong and was here last year that time Just could not be bothered, not to mention do not really like the Low Vis, man was that a big big mistake Now I really wish I had a time machine Edited October 13, 2004 by Valk009 Quote
Jolly Rogers Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Dude, the Bandai reissues had tons of markings PRINTED on the friggin' toy itself, unlike the Taka original which came practically naked. Not to mention the forearm has been resculpted for the reissues so you can't fit the Taka GBP armor on them. Only a complete noob would be unable to tell the difference between them regardless of the boxes they come in. Just one correction AFAIK GBP1 fits on reissue with no problems. I was thinking of the Fastpack that came with the Super Valkyrie... which Bandai reissued with re-sculpted pieces for the forearms. Quote
myk Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 I don't know about that. Even back in the day, when my momma bought me an original 'Taka S, it cost $60 and that was alot of coin for most folks.... Quote
Panzer Posted October 13, 2004 Author Posted October 13, 2004 (edited) you gotta cool mom. mine bought me a Jetfire with the Macross logos on the fast packs. she also bought me a Milia Joke Machine back in the day. gotta love mom Edited October 13, 2004 by Panzer Quote
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