wm cheng Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 oOOHH! I would definitely second Mechleader's suggestion of a seated Minmay for the back seat of the VT-1 (main reason I haven't started one) - preferably with Minmay's full head and pony tail with her holding her helmut. Quote
Stamen0083 Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 I would like a Gunpod, but I would rather have the VF-0 Gunpod. The VF-1 pod is too plain and boring. Quote
Myersjessee Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 Reading through the thread I think John's cost concern is very valid. As much as we all say "OHHHH I want that" in regards to all these kits...I suspect the number of people who can (or will) actually afford the kit drops as the price of the kit goes up. While I would love the Glaug, Pod, GBP, VF17, VF9, etc...it would seem that perhaps their rough price should be considered. I would hate to see Rob and John spend the time and money to sculpt the definitive anything only to have them only sell a few because it was too much money...so..whats the sweet spot...of all the kits listed what can you (or would you ) spend. For me...$100 is the sweet spot....more then that and I think twice. Less then that and Ill buy two. $200 is rough, but attainable for the right kit. $300 is almost out of reach. Here are rough numbers of what I would comfortably pay for the options listed. These are not what it would cost, but rather what I could affored or could rationalize. People listing what they would pay might help Rob and John balance the ties and the serious commitments on this poll. (hope Im not overstepping my bounds here) Regult 1/72 - full kit $150 option parts $60 Glaug 1/72 - $175-$200 Gun-Pod (Human Sized) - $60 (and I dont know where I would put it! ) Zentradi Soldier 1/72 - $50 Nousjadeul Ger (TV) 1/72 - $100 Nousjadeul Ger (Movie) 1/72 $100 VF-17 1/72 - $150 to $175 GPB-1 For Hase Kit $125 VF-9 Cutlass 1/72 $150 - $175 Quote
wm cheng Posted September 16, 2004 Posted September 16, 2004 Hey - don't forget about the resin backseat Minmay! Backseat Minmay 1/72 - $10 Quote
Grayson72 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Ok so here's my dreamlist of kits I'd love to have and am determined to get in my lifetime one way or another. 1/72 QF-9000 Ghost 1/72 heavy & light Regult missile attachements 1/72 Zentradi Scout pod 1/72 Macross support vehicles set 1/72 VAB-3 Invader 1/72 Glaug Booster 1/72 VF-1 Booster Launch vehicle 1/72 VF-1 GBP Armor Conversion 1/72 VF-1 Platypus conversion 1/72 VF-1 Stampede conversion 1/72 VF-11 Armour set 1/72 VF-0 Battroid 1/72 VF-0 Armoured Battroid 1/72 Destroid Cheyenne 1/72 Macross Space Shuttle 1/72 Macross Rabbit Shuttle Quote
Skull Leader Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Gah! Someone actually WANTS that Platypus conversion??? That has to be one of the UGLIEST conversions ever done to a VF-1 Quote
Yohsho Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Voted for the VF-9, what about a FAST Pack conversion to turn it into the mirco missle luancher stuff? Quote
The_Major Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 well for what its worth, and i voted other by the way, here is what id like to see. 1/72 SC-27 Stargoose w/ Misa Figure 1/12 maybe (BIIIG Misa Freak) 1/72 RC-4E Rabbit id love to have a 1/72 Mom's Kitchen 1/72 QF-9iE 1/72 QF-2001 1/72 QF-3000e w/ Tanks (Not sure what scale) DYRL? ARMD Spacecraft Carrier TV ARMD Carrier Oberth Destroyer Prometheus Deadelus Meltrandi ships!!! Quote
Neova Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 (edited) Edited to keep the thread on 1/72 scale. I voted GBP Kit but I meant Thunder Hammer. How about a destroid assortment package? You can amortize the base (legs) across all 4 variants. Posability would sell me instantly. Edited September 17, 2004 by Neova Quote
Grayson72 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 I guess you missed the part in the beginning where Rob clearly states he'll only be doing 1/72 scale. Quote
Neova Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 (edited) I acknowledged the thread is 1/72 based but was thinking of John's post when I wrote my 1/48 conversion kit response. He makes valid points from a business perspective and I only wanted to see that the end results (more 1/72 kits made) through alternative means (1/48 kits for the Toy crowd which feels bigger, on MW anyways). In reality, all the designs are feasible from a construction standpoint, it's just that there needs to be a balance between the amount of effort/time/materials that go into a particular kit, and the outright demand from the consumer base. Edited September 17, 2004 by Neova Quote
captain america Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Hi Anthony. Point well taken, actually. I think that 1/48 toy conversion parts would be extra kool. If enough people would want 1/48 Elint and Ostrich conversions, I could certainly do those, and for a fairly reasonnable price too, I think. Just picture it: a super O or Elint 1/48 conversion kit that comes pre-pigmented in the proper plastic color; almost no painting to do. Just unscrew plastic part A, and replace with resin part B. Quote
Pat S Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 I would buy 1/48 conversion parts in a heartbeat. Pre-colored, and reasonably priced? Thread over, start making them Quote
Grayson72 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Great, now we gone from models to toys, you people go back to the toy section where you belong Quote
Less than Super Ostrich Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 you guys remember when I did that wish list thread? I'll go try to find it. Quote
Ghadrack Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Well, I for one am going to try to support everything you guys do. The following is a list of things that I would definitely buy from you without question(So long as you don't go insane with the prices ) 1/72 Regult Glaug VF17 Nausger Thunder Hummer (I like Hummer better ) Zentraedi fighter destroids (Any and all) 1/48 Elint and Super-O conversion parts GBP (although I think Yamato making these is likely) Thunder Hammer armor Quote
pfunk Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 I had to put other, every kit you guys do is so worth getting, I would hate to just put in a vote for one. It is nice to see some of the enemy mech though Quote
Major Johnathan Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 Actually, I've become a pretty big fan of Macross Zero, so anything that goes with the Hasegawa kits would be really cool. How about them Destoids? I really doubt we'll see Hasegawa ever do them. Or the aquatic bad guy mecha... Quote
Dax415 Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 Does anyone have pics of a VF-9 or can direct me to some? Quote
Graham Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 Does anyone have pics of a VF-9 or can direct me to some? They have pics of the VF-9 on MAHQ. Personally, I've never liked the design. Whle the Fighter mode is ok looking, I've always thought the Battroid and Gerwalk look hideous. Graham Quote
whytwolf Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 Does anyone have pics of a VF-9 or can direct me to some? They have pics of the VF-9 on MAHQ. Personally, I've never liked the design. Whle the Fighter mode is ok looking, I've always thought the Battroid and Gerwalk look hideous. Graham Kinda remods me of the Legios from Genesis Climber Mospedea. Was this design from M7? From an earlier Macross series? Is it even an 'official' Kawamori design? Sean Quote
Dat Pinche Haro! Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 Was this design from M7? From an earlier Macross series? Is it even an 'official' Kawamori design?Sean it's from the Macross Dreamcast game called M3...as far as it being in M7, i really don't know Quote
Graham Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 Was this design from M7? From an earlier Macross series? Is it even an 'official' Kawamori design?Sean it's from the Macross Dreamcast game called M3...as far as it being in M7, i really don't know Yes, it's an official design from kawamori. The VF-9 appears only in the M3 Dreamcast game. It does not appear in any Macross anime so far. The Macross Compendium has the following to say about the VF-9: - The VF-9 project was the first assignment at General Galaxy for its chief project advisor Algus Selzer. Development began in 2018, and the first flight occured in 2021. The VF-9 was intended as a concept for an inexpensive twin-engined light fighter. However, due to input from UN-Forces-assigned test pilot Captain Milia Jenius, it displayed aerial combat manueverability higher than the VF-4, the main fighter at the time. As a result, General Galaxy received massive orders from colony planets with reduced budgets, and the VF-9 became its first bestseller. Mass production began in 2023 and ended in 2029. Graham Quote
Dax415 Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 I was just wondering which project was next up and how much it might cost? Thanks Quote
captain america Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 Hi guys. I've compiled a quick list of the projected prices for each model in the list, as well as giving an approximate size to the more ambiguous skus. The prices are all based on the (percieved) complexity of each sculpt, the amount of material needed to make it, as well as rough mold material costs and a few other things. Also, this would be for a projected run of about 50 piecs. 1/72 Regult: $180-190, @28-29cm tall. Free pose, cockpit detail 1/72 Glaug: $280-300, @35cm tall. Free pose, cockpit detail human sized gun pod: $350, 60-65cm long. Non-firing, collapsible 1/72 Zentradi soldier $50-55, @ 12.5cm tall. Static pose, clear visor Nousjadeul Ger TV/film versions: $180-190, 22-23cm tall. Opening cockpit hatch. 1/72 VF-17 $190-200 1/72 GBP-1 $110-120 1/72 VF-9 $215 --The term free pose indicated that the model may be built in the builder's desired pose, but is not poseable once complete. --Fixed pose means that the model can only be built in the pose it was designed in. Quote
Myersjessee Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 Based on that I would endorse (in this order) GBP Regult VF9 Quote
flash Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 (edited) Based on that I would endorse (in this order)GBP Regult VF9 Wow, you really gonna spend $120 to add onto a $25 model? As much as I like your stuff captain, personally I cant justify spending that much for the items you listed. I hope you get enough interest tho, you've got some mad skills Brad Edited September 24, 2004 by flash Quote
mbs357 Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 If you make the human sized gunpod fire 9mm (or even 5.56! ooo) I'll buy one. =P Quote
Gundamhead Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 I'm wondering why nobody likes this gunpod? http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/models.../im1311-99b.jpg Quote
ChristopherB Posted September 24, 2004 Posted September 24, 2004 1/72 Regult: $180-190, @28-29cm tall. Free pose, cockpit detail1/72 Glaug: $280-300, @35cm tall. Free pose, cockpit detail 1/72 Zentradi soldier $50-55, @ 12.5cm tall. Static pose, clear visor Nousjadeul Ger TV/film versions: $180-190, 22-23cm tall. Opening cockpit hatch. 1/72 VF-17 $190-200 1/72 GBP-1 $110-120 1/72 VF-9 $215 Hello, The prices sound very reasonable. I wish that you could make all of theitems listed above, but perhaps if we're patient they will all become available. Rob said that if the GBP is made, it will be the Thunder Hammers version. I presume that your estimate would remain the same. And yes, I would gladly pay $120 for a "Thunder Hammers" kit, and then I would pay $25 for the Hasegawa battroid kit. I'm by no means rich, but I would get a lot of enjoyment out of having something like this to display, and you can't put a price tag on that. Sincerely, Christopher Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 DYRL? Nousjadeul-Ger please!!!! Quote
captain america Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 Actually, the price quoted was for the GBP-1 (tv/film) armor, not the TH. Looking at the complexity of the TH unit, the same scale kit could cost as much as $50-60 more. Though small, a lot of the parts in the shoulders & legs would be very small, thin, and very tough to cast ( more reject parts, lots of parts, longer production time per kit, etc.) There's always a chance that I can end up doing it for cheaper, but I usually want to prepare clients for a worst-case scenario, and if by some magical twist of fate, it takes less time/effort/material than I planned for, I just re-adjust the price of the kit accordingly. Quote
EXO Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 (edited) It's not really fair to compare the cost of a product with a higher run with a chance of being reissued to a kit that has a small run, created by people you somewhat have a direct communication with, so you can almost say you know them. If anything the heart that these people put into the booster and any upcoming product is shortchanged. I'm not saying that there's no love given to the creation of the Hasegawas, but it's love that is backed by a much higher profit margin. Edited September 25, 2004 by >EXO< Quote
cobywan Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 Yeah. What Exo said. If you want quality withou quantity you are going to spend money. You should just be glad you aren't into the FSS kits. They are all above the price ranges that Capn A quoted. Quote
Myersjessee Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 Yeah...honestly...I was not suprised by the prices...the question was...would I spend $120 for an add for for a $25 kit. The answer is an absolute yes. You see...there is no $25 quality add on GBP kit...and I dont know if I expect Hase to do one...so it's actually $120 for a kit no one else will have...not an unusual price for a garage kit....'especially when you consider the time and costs to do 50 kits....this isn't Club M...all of this is done by hand and none of the supplies are cheap. Quote
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