GobotFool Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 Well I was on transfandom, and toybox, and this is a popular debate so I decided to drop a poll on it in MW. Let it be known where macross worlders stand on the issue! Anyway, I voted the 3rd its all good when used right. Quote
SkullLeaderVF-X Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I like them both. Only when there used the right way, and not the half assed way... :cough:mpc:cough: Quote
VF-19 Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I too voted for the mixture. Diecast and plastic both have their perks and flaws. And I like the mixture in my 1:60 Yamatos! Quote
SkullLeaderVF-X Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I too voted for the mixture. Diecast and plastic both have their perks and flaws.And I like the mixture in my 1:60 Yamatos! Couldn't have said it better myself. Quote
Commander McBride Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I love diecast, when used right. However, it isn't very good on the 1/60s. Every diecast part has become incredibly loose on my Max. Quote
SkullLeaderVF-X Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I love diecast, when used right. However, it isn't very good on the 1/60s. Every diecast part has become incredibly loose on my Max. Hmmm........My Hikaru 1/60 still feels good to me.Nothing seems loose. Quote
UN Spacy Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 When I take a look at the 20th Anniversary Prime I think it's a good mix of diecast and plastic. As long as someone takes the time and make the right decision's into their work anything can look beautiful. B) Quote
Guppy Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 Yeah, they both have their place. It's simply a question of price vs. quality. I love my SOC evangelions, but I had to pay 4 or 5 times as much as I did for the plastic kaiyodo ones... Quote
leeden Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I say each has its use. The problem with the discussions on the Transformers forums are the snap judgements. It really irritates me when I have to read posts like "Hasbro ruined 20th anniversary Prime with diecast, I'm boycotting it!" It's so obsessively fanboyish. That's why I refrain from posting on those sites. The whole issue seems moot to me anyway. The polls for the annivesary figure suggested the majority wanted diecast so that's what we're getting. Quote
JsARCLIGHT Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 Both have their applications. I'm generally not a big fan of diecast in toys as they have all those "paint chip" issues. Every diecast toy I had as a child looked like it got raked with a few bursts from a trench gun due to all the chips in the paint... then again that was the '70s back when all toys where like that. I have always wondered why some high dollar toys have not experimented with forged aluminum. Quote
motley Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 while i have a lot of plastic toys and relatively few diecast toys, i have been growing rapidly disenfranchized with my plasticy toys. many, many of my toys would be so much better if they just had a bit of metal in them. given the choice i will so choose metal over plastic. plastic may not exactly suck, it just needs metal to keep it from falling apart. i have succombed to the chogolust. too bad i already emptied my wallet on the plastic toys. doh. <_< Quote
Smut Peddler Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 Totally depends on the toy to me. I have some great all plastic toys, and likewise for the diecast ones. There will always be toys that suck, and the material usually has little to do with that. Quote
Angel's Fury Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 When I take a look at the 20th Anniversary Prime I think it's a good mix of diecast and plastic. As long as someone takes the time and make the right decision's into their work anything can look beautiful. B) Ditto! Quote
JB0 Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 (edited) Having dragged my old Transformers out recently, I have to say one thing... I resent plastic. When I was a kid, a toy could double as a weapon in a pinch. Just run up and bash someone in the head with a nice chunk of Yellow Lion. Plastic took over completely from die-cast and the end result is modern toys fail during normal usage. And you can just forget throwing them at someone. Sure my old GoBot space shuttle has a big garish gray metal area where the windshield was, but when I imagine that damage across a white plastic nosepiece with a windshield sticker, it doesn't look that bad. And white paint on diecast doesn't turn yellow like white plastic can. Tragically, the arms and feet were made of a plastic rather susceptible to yellowing(though the wings and tail are still white, the scratches across them detract from the aesthetic value somewhat). Edited September 12, 2003 by JB0 Quote
vf1_soulja Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I say "Both are good when used right". The Yamato 1/48 valk has a higher plastic content than ,say, a Bandai SOC Great Mazinger. Both are high quality toys using the two materials in different ways. Quote
ewilen Posted September 12, 2003 Posted September 12, 2003 I also voted for both. Balance and ease of handling is important. I think the Yamato 1/60 has an excellent balance in fighter mode, but the legs are a bit too heavy relative to everything else in Gerwalk and Battroid modes. The 1/48 has a decent balance with relatively little diecast; the Takatoku/Bandai 1/55's have very nice balance in all modes using a moderate percentage of diecast. Quote
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