tim patterson Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 I think in 95 or 96, I saw a 4 eposode version of Macroos Plus at the Otakon Convention in Hunt Valley Md. It was subtitled w/Japanese soundtrack. The odd thing about it was ---- It was the 4 ep. OAV but it had Guld's DEATH SCENE! When I bought the laserdisc version it was missing! I have the movie version on VHS. Is the death scene in the OAV DVD release? Is there an Import version? HELP me find it PLEASE! Quote
Renato Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 Both have "Guld's death scene", since Guld dies in both versions, movie and OVA. Except the Movie Edition has an extended death scene. You may just be confused. Quote
tim patterson Posted August 16, 2004 Author Posted August 16, 2004 It's the part when he "cuts out the limiters" and his skin is pulling off his face from the speed and blood is flying out of his eyes. That is the extended movie version, but I also saw it in a japanese lang version 4 part OAV. My laserdiscs don't have that scene, and I wanted to know if it is in the American DVD release so I don't wast my money buying the same thing over again! Also if anyone knows where I can get the version I saw at the convention I would appreciate it. Quote
Keith Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 I'd wager they were showing the movie edition and you just got confused. What you want is "Macross Plus Movie Edition." Quote
ewilen Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 Just an added data point. The UK Macross Plus Ultimate edition DVD set (R2) includes both the OAV and the movie; the OAV definitely doesn't have the gruesome shots of Guld losing his eyes, while the movie does (unfortunately, like the American release, the movie is a transfer from videotape with hardcoded subtitles). Quote
tim patterson Posted August 17, 2004 Author Posted August 17, 2004 No, I know it is in the movie edition, I own the movie edition as well. That wasn't it. It was a 4 part OAV in Japanese with english subtitles and the complete death scene. It was probably VHS back then. Could have been a bootleg, but if so from where? I remember being really pissed off when the four Laser Discs were released a year later because they cut it out. Does anyone know if the complete Death scene is on the DVD OAV release or not? Is there an NTSC ultimate edition? Quote
Knight26 Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 A friend of mine has an edition like what you are talking about, but he made it himself. He used an edit bay to pretty seemlessly edit in the Movie version of Guld's Death into the 4th episode of the OVA, as well as the full version of the Isamu seduction by Sharron Apple. It was well done, but has not done it to the DVD yet because he does not care for the VHS transfer. I'm sure what you saw was something similar to what he did, probably made by a fan. Quote
ewilen Posted August 17, 2004 Posted August 17, 2004 Does anyone know if the complete Death scene is on the DVD OAV release or not?Is there an NTSC ultimate edition? It is definitely not in the Manga Entertainment DVD OAV release. That's based on my copy of the UK Ultimate edition, as well as everything I've ever read about the US DVD. There's no US/R1/NTSC ultimate edition--you have to buy the OAV (2 discs with two eps./disc) and movie separately. At one point Manga was talking about a US bundle which people thought might be equivalent to the Ultimate edition, but it was actually going to be some kind of Macross II/Macross Plus combo. In the end it was never released. Quote
Keith Posted August 18, 2004 Posted August 18, 2004 There's no version of the OVA release that incorperates the movie footage. As others have said, most likely a fan edit. Quote
tim patterson Posted August 18, 2004 Author Posted August 18, 2004 (edited) It sounds like a fan/bootleg but that's kinda strange because it was shown at least 3 years before the movie addition was available on VHS and didn't have any of the other extras from it. (but could have been edited with a japanese version I suppose) I tore my basement apart looking for the itinerary from that show but couldn't find it. I shot an e-mail off to the Otakon people, but they are just getting finished with their last convention and are gearing up for the next one, so I don't expect an answer. One thing of Note: The sub WAS a bit different from my laserdisc, which gives more credence to the fansub theory. If anyone comes across this version Please post a thread. Thanks, everyone. Edited August 18, 2004 by tim patterson Quote
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