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Just wait till you pay for a 1/60 Konig Monster. You're gonna need to take out a mortgage for that.

Fair enough, anime52. If having similar toys of the same scale don't bother you or your wallet then that's fine too. I personally love the 1/72 Hase YF-19, despite all its non-cannon exaggerated glory. I think I'd feel the same way about a pre-assembled model too, but frankly at this point I'd rather save the $50 or so for the next staggeringly-expensive Yamato valk. Its kind of one thing that trumps the other. If I didn't start out collecting transforming Valks though, I might have just taken the cheaper route and gotten non-TF 1/72 replicas... But its too late for that Also, 2,000 Yen for GNU Fast Packs? Wow. 20 bucks... for a few pieces of non-articulated plastic (I don' count a silly twist of the connection joint)... When the GNU itself was 30. Who is pricing these things?!? Just imagine if the 1/60 FP expansions costed 2/3rds the value of the plane. Thats too bad, cause I like my GNUs, but when I start paying 45-50 for each one, I mind as well start throwing money into a fire. Even for a GNU fan, thats too much for me.

I would appreciate the increase in detail and sculpting accuracy like you say, since I'm a fighter fan too, but I think this would just limit me severely to only buying fighters for the transforming Valks that I would have refused to buy due to their fighter-mode compromises (VF-11, VF-25). Otherwise, the current fighter modes of most of the valks are really still pretty good, and I wouldn't plunk down another 50 for a plane of which I already have. Even if it was superior, it'd be obsoleting the $200 valks =/. What's going to end up happening with 1/60 or 1/72 replicas is that the demand would be lower than if they were of a smaller scale, due to their higher price, and that collectors technically already possess a 1/60 model. I don't know about you, but I don't intend to buy Hasegawa kits of fighters I already own (even if they were pre-completed). Cost would be an issue, but so would storage and collectibility. That aside though, I think it's a shame to neglect Gerwalk modes as it most easily distinguishes Macross from other toys. Its not quite like collecting plane replicas, or Gundam kits, or transformers figures. Sure, there's no way it could work without being a floppy mess that would disintegrate mid-flight, but it was sure as hell a lot more interesting than repeated mecha-dueling ala GW. If Macross had just Fighter and Battroid modes, I think I'd be disenchanted with it pretty quickly. And something about rearward-bent legs just makes their ground movement awesome. Probably from a childhood of Mechwarrior though.

It'll be unnecessary to have it diecast, but I would have thought that it would cost more for 1/72 fighters. Maybe I should switch to collecting real planes instead of Macross; it'd be a lot cheaper. XD With Yamato behind the wheel though, I still wouldn't be surprised at the $70 minimum price tag. =/.

Hm. Is there a physical difference between Luca's 3 UCAV Ghosts and the Ghost X9/V9s? Aside from the color scheme? Been waiting for ghost fighters forever, but I don't know if I can justify getting the RVF-25 for that. Luca wasn't exactly an inspiring character, and neither was his piloting.

I think he's talking about the 1/72 YF-21. Which was less than 7,000 yen if I remember. The 1/60 is around 22,000 yen like you say, matching the price of the SV-51s. Exchange rates, shipping and all, that's about 270 Canadian Retail around here.... Nothing less of staggering. The VF-11 seems to be matching the 1/60 YF-19's price, which is a bit more reasonable.

Essentially, you're waiting for a VF-11B V2. Lol. That may be a while. I'd think the YF-21 V2 would come first =P. Or if you want something now (for Christmas, perhaps) then something already in its second iteration.

How is that safe? We dont even know its initial release quality yet! If anything, its a bigger gamble than the 21.

A fighter only or Gerwalk only mode with less articulation than the battroids, but cheaper is great, but I think the size should be smaller. If the size is going to be 1/72 or 1/60, won't it be pretty redundant amongst your transforming 1/60s? And something of that size, but retaining that level of detail is going to inflate the price to $60-70 and an additional 15 for Gerwalks. Poor paint and panel line detail becomes far more noticeable amongst larger figures. I think its a safer bet to have smaller figures to pair with the current GNU sizes, and keep the costs $20-25 or less.

Actually that'd be pretty awesome. You could have their respective battroids duking it out behind them. Thats a fantastic idea XD PINPOINT BARRIER FISTTTTTTTTT

I would have liked Grace more, if she wasn't so diabolical. But in the most blatant way possible. Unfortunately, I was pretty disappointed with the characters in Frontier, all the male pilots were more feminine than the women (yes even Ozma with his stray lock of hair which must take him hours to get right), and amongst the women, only Klan and Ram were cute. I have a hard time convincing myself to buy figures of them though. Would appreciate a good Isamu or Zero Focker figure though. Between Figma and Revoltech, ehhh.... I think I'd rather have it figma. Revoltech has trouble doing normal standing poses, and I'd prefer they weren't so gummy-feeling. Not really a fan of ball joints though. Solid PVCs forever!

Yea, except that the canards on the 19 had nothing to do with perfect trans, or proportional accuracy in each mode. But if you're saying that there is a possibility of Yamato being super-nice and giving us fan-pleasing extras... Maybe, but I am doubtful. Anyways, Im a fighter person, so the tiny tail fins arent going to cut it. But I did like the long gunpod, and the wicked bayonet. =/ so many trade offs.

Hah. I'd love to see a 27 pilot forget that he has his landing gear deployed and fire the cannon while in combat. Oops. XD I dont see the 27 being all that chunky, because its design is so similar to the SV-51. If Yamato could do the transformation and retain reasonable proportions for the 51, I would hope that Bandai could as well. Also, just by the lineart, the 27's wings are much thicker and less prone to the problems that are inherent with the 51. Unfortunately though, I dislike the fat droopy nosecone with 27... And whats up with its tiny forward canards in that picture?

Doesnt the VF-25 also have a 2 nozzle FP? I never cared much for either.

The giant gun on the VF-27 keeps reminding me of Cowboy Bebop's Swordfish. Anyone else get that feeling? http://www.genghiskwan.com/gallery/3d/swordfish0270.jpg (The forward landing gears splay to both sides of the gun though.)

GNU 21's anyone? I have a bigger problem with the snub nose than anything else, but there's not really a lot that can be done about it. Is it better than the 1/72, yea. But is it good enough to warrant buying and displaying it in fighter? No.

Uhh... I read that someone said that in the 19 thread, but I tried it, but it wont budge and I don't see that happening naturally. At all. I can only forsee terrible splits in the landing gear casing.

One thing about Yamato standard box packaging is that its got lots of extra space inside. It could compress to 50% of its current thickness and the fighter would still be fine. However, it is just thin cardboard and then a plastic tray, so there's not a lot of resistance it provides. Build a thicker cardboard box that wraps around the Yamato packaging (by taking thicker corrugated cardboard, some glue and lots of packing tape) to form a shell. That should give it some resistance. I shipped my fighters like that internationally, and they came out just fine, with only a slight ding on the corner of the Yamato box.

standard. The landing gear issue is present. Too lazy to fix it right now, but will get a small drill to open the hole a bit. Thats all I can find though.

Not sure, but I looked at my 19, and took some pics of the usual gap issues I hear about here. Doesnt seem to be an issue? Or is it something else Ive missed? My cell camera sucks though. The shoulders pop up only slightly but not really a huge issue. And there is that modification to fix that one pretty easily.

Yea, the additional quality of a perfect transformer is a huge plus but for the most part, I'm more a fan of planes than mecha (although its still good). I don't plan on getting any more GNUs (or Revols or any of the non-transformers, really) unless they release plane/gerwalk only models of the same caliber... And hopefully a cheaper price (since fewer joints and so forth.)

Hm. No look inside the feet thrusters. Wish they showed us that. Is it just me though or does the 11 look... bloated? And a tad short?

Its not more than 5-7 dollars cheaper, is a 20% reduction in size, a drop in paint, detail and plastic quality, with heavily exaggerated proportions and liberal design changes. The upsides are that its more durable, has more accessories and is widely posable. Its a toy more than a figure. $30 for a gummy plastic toy is not a purchase I'd like to make more than once. The marginal gain is dramatically decreases with these things, as once you start having enough to consider it a collection, it cheapens everything else. Its like having a few high-grade models on display, but then buy a dozen cheap toys to place next to them, despite their combined price tag being less than any single high-grade model. Playability or not, those high-grade models (read: expensive) have gone to waste. I keep my revoltech on my desk, within hands reach. Anywhere but near the display case.

I got mine retail for 35 bucks (Canadian) which I think is still a high price to pay for a small non-transforming figure, but compared to the revoltech versions (which are 30 ea) the increase in paint quality and proportional accuracy is well worth it. Unless you're going to start calling Revoltech overpriced too, I can't really say the same for the GNU line. I did get a revoltech anyway though; having 2 minute hand-candy is nice (but you really dont need more than one), and the GNUs stay mostly looks only. Besides, they're bigger than most stuff under the 1/60 scales, the revoltechs included. At the hand-held sizes, I dont think you can find completed figures of that caliber of detail, transforming or not. I would have appreciated a fighter version, but they'd need to take the price down 10-15 bucks to make it worthwhile.

The last time I touched a model kit, it was when I was 12, and it did not go so well. I looked at some pictures of opened kits, but the precoloring on the parts weren't that great, and it seemed like lots of additional work beyond my skill level was necessary. I could be wrong, like I said, I only had tiny resolution pictures to inspect. But it seemed that it lacked the level of detail I'd expect from a finished figure. In addition to that, I'd like it to be 1/60th scale too; that is also an appearance issue.