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Quiet, you. That's supposed to be a secret.

You guys make me feel old.

Huh? What? Did someone say something? And to think that, at the time, we thought Books Nippan was way too expensive... But yeah, I still have a lot of stuff that I bought there, including the Megazone 23 (Part 1) soundtrack and the Area 88 Acts I & II vocal collection, both on vinyl.

BWA-HA-HA-HA!!! That's HYSTERICAL!

Yes. (C'mon, man...there's ALWAYS more Macross...be it Macross Chronicle, or Macross Generation, or Mylene Beat, or any of the other drama albums and novels...there's TONS of Macross stuff just waiting to be translated. SO LET'S GET CRACKIN"!)

That's some good writing, Togo. You manage to encapsulate the important points in a nice, focussed way, and are mostly positive without being blind to series faults. Of course, what I'm really hoping for is some eccentric billionaire to see your review and say, "Damn the cost, let's bring all this 'Macross' nonsense to the western world!" Doubt it'll happen, of course...but I can dream, right?

Well...technically, they brought Kamjin back for one of the games. 98% of the time, though, Mr. March is right. Dead guys stay dead (although, if you count DYRL, a few of 'em die twice ).

Why do so many Macrossworld threads seem to get derailed into stautory rape discussions? C'mon guys...this a good thread; I'd rather not see it locked.

Yeah...didn't Natter-Valgo get destroyed in The Galaxy Is Calling Me? I may be misremembering it, however... It looks like a pretty standard dragon, with a long neck, but with four eyes and feathered wings. It's very, very big...at least as large as Glavil, if not bigger. And it has a psychic connection with Mylene (which may be broken when it leaves...I'm not sure). Barton and Sazapi were using Mylene's song energy to nuture it, and it broke out of its containment when Sazapi tried to rape Mylene (as seen in Dynamite 7). As for Barton...it's hard to tell. He tries to kill Dr. Chiba (which may win applause from Macross 7 detractors, but probably wouldn't do much to endear him to Max or Millia), but the last page he's on is quite dialogue-heavy, and although I've more-than-skimmed the comic, I haven't sat down with a dictionary and fully READ it yet (there's no furigana, which makes it rather difficult). So he's not SHOWN to be in any trouble, but (as I said) he tried to kill Dr. Chiba, and the Evil smashed a both the research ship it was incubated on, and an entire city block or two on City 7, so I'd imagine he has some kind of punishment due. I dunno. It may be covered in the dialogue...

Wow...really looking at them like that, Macross's much-publicized love-triangles don't really add up to a whole lot, do they? SDFM had something of a sneak-attack triangle...it seemed like it was the love story of Hikaru and Minmay for a good portion of the show, and then Misa stepped in (to the surprise of many). The M7 love triangles are barely there...the only one that really goes anywhere is Sivil/Basara/Gigle, but Sivil is comatose for most of the working out of that one. The Plus love triangle was probably the most hard-fought (on Guld's side), but it kind of ends by default. The Zero triangle never really got going, either, due to Mao being more than a little too young. And the Frontier triangle, despite probably getting more actual time devoted to it than any of the other ones, stubbornly refuses to be resolved (at least, it does to those of us who don't see the incredibly subtle hints - which are also apparently glaringly obvious to anyone with half a brain, which I guess doesn't include me - that Alto picked one girl or the other). Not a whole lot of action on any of those fronts, really...almost any Rumiko Takahashi series blows any and all Macross series out of the water in terms of unrequited (or semi-requited) love and romantic competition. So with that in mind, I voted for Shin/Sara/Mao, just because that seemed to be the triangle with the most inherent meaning next to Hikaru/Misa/Minmay, and I figured a lot of people would be voting for the SDFM original. If, as kawamori has stated, Hikaru had to choose between "the forces that create culture" (Minmay) and "the forces that protect culture" (Misa), then Shin was confronted with Tradition in the form of Sara, and Modernity in the form of Mao, which makes it, if not really convincing as a love story, at least philosophically interesting.

When Ranka and Brera were children (and the Vajra attacked the 117th), Brera told her not to tell anybody that her song was what drew the Vajra there. Thus, when she saw that Ozma was hurt, Ranka reverted back to memories she had consciously buried... Good catch, Dreamweaver!

Didn't Natter-Valgo get destroyed...? As for the Col. Barton-tested, Sazapi-approved EVIL, it ends up flying off of the ship and folding away. At least, it looks like it's folding.

Sorry, I should've explained better...by "kinda/sorta," I meant that I was never sure if he "liked her" liked her, or if he just wanted her to listen to his song.

Not entirely true...he had some kinda/sorta interest in Sivil, and a definitely romantic interest in Emilia. So there you go...not only does Mylene want what she can't have, she's out to hustle her older sister's crush.

Well, DYRL filled in some gaps about the Protoculture left open in the show...and the MacPlus Movie had more closure in its ending than the OVA did... A few new lines here, an extra three-minute scene there...it's possible they could fill some of the gaps even if the movie is a retelling.

I think Romanization mistakes differ from factual mistakes...for example, in the Frontier animation, we've seen Sheryl "Norm," "Nome," and "Noam." You can't really reconcile that beyond saying, "Well, I guess the animation staff doesn't know English...and why should they?" Of course, to argue for the other side, there is at least one small-but-glaring mistake in Macross Chronicle...in the Minmay section, they say that Roy had a VF-1J.

The thing is, they probably have a lot of Sheryl's past mapped out...I wonder how much of it ended up on the cutting room floor, or simply didn't make it into the show... Ah well...all the more reason to buy the books, right?

Considering that the cover shows Hikaru's VF-1J with FAST Packs (Huh??? He never sported them in the show...), I'm guessing it's the TV version.

Well...the connection was rather muffled, but she certainly felt it when the Vajra were being hurt or killed... And Sheryl was always a queen and will always be a queen...and so will Bobby.

I feel very, very lucky to have grown up in Los Angeles, where even stores in Pasadena had Japanese imports coming in. As such, I had some Macross stuff even before Robotech aired, and thus I always knew there was something a little fishy about RT ("This says 'Valkyrie,' not 'Veritech.' And who the hell is 'Hikaru Ichijo'?) Like everyone else, I would go to Books Nippan Ripoff when I could (and yes, I joined the "Japanimation" Fanvclub as well), and sometimes to Pony Toy-Go-Round in Little Tokyo, but even Karl's Toys in the Pasadena Mall once got a HUGE shipment of Macross, Dorvack, and Orguss models that they were selling for $2.99 each. Likewise, there was a place called The Model Works across from Pasadena City College that had (for a while) a huge selection of Macross, Southern Cross, and Mosepada models. And getting an Arii 1/100 Hikaru Type Strike Battroid in 1985 was where I first heard about DYRL. In a few months, I had a bootleg copy of it. Thanks to a network of friends with connections to Japan, after DYRL I pretty much was a Macross fan in real time. I got a copy of FB2012 a couple of weeks after it came out in Japan. In the early '90s, as I entered college, I kind of dropped out of the anime scene. I rented the first two volumes of Macross II, but didn't bother with the third one (it was only available dubbed, anyway, which kind of turned me off). A couple of years later, I got into Plus, and read about 7 in Animerica. Finally, in '96, I went to a Little Tokyo video store armed with a credit card, and rented all the volumes of Macross 7 (and copied them, since I had two VCRs). I ended up missing out on Dynamite when it came out, though, since the video store got volumes 1, 2, and 4, but not 3. I did finally end up seeing the end of Macross II, however. I also collected M7 Trash as it came out. In 2000, I got the Animeigo SDFM set, and right before Zero started, I got DYRL, FB2012, and M7 on horrible HK DVDs (that was also the first time I saw the "extended ending" to DYRL...didn't like it. Still don't) and collected Zero as soon as the bootlegs were released. I had dabbled in the internet in '98 or '99, and had printed out the timeline from the Macross Compendium. But it wasn't until Zero that I joined Macrossworld...

My favorite bit: "Macross World Forums welcomes its newest member Keith" Basara smiled down on Macrossworld that day...

Contents for Chronicle #7: Mechanic Sheet: * Super Valkyrie * YF-21 * Macross 7 Fleet Character Sheet: *Hikaru Ichijo * Lucy MacMillan Gallery Sheet: * DYRL Timeline Sheet: * Miss Macross Contest * First Contact History Sheet: *The Bird Human Battle World Guide Sheet *The Protodeviln Song Sheet: *DYRL/An Angel's Paints Goods Sheets: * Yamato 1/72 Series

Macross Knight Rider...?

Whoops! Guess I should've left it in the News Thread, huh?

I think you're missing my point. Don't you have to see an episode before you know whether it was worth your time or not? I don't understand how substandard ratings for episode 25 show dissatisfication with the ending of episode 25. It's not like people knew how it would end before they started watching it, right? Unless it's the Friday night ratings we're talking about...