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Hmmm...DYRL Claudia is was expecting, but the Bridge Bunnies, too? And I here was expecting to put Sheet Number 06 away for the Tv Series U.N. Spacy characters... Yeah, they've already had Macross 7's own diva, "Honey" Suzuki...do they really need anyone else? Something tells me that, if it IS going to be only fifty issues, Timeline and History will be together in Binder 3, Technology and World Guide will be crammed together in Binder 4, and everything else is going to separate... The Timeline Sheet sounds like it was more or less what I was expecting. They rushed through "The Lost Two Years" between SDFM episodes 27 and 28, too. I was hoping they'd spend at least two or three sheets detailing the time between 2012 and 2040. I'm *ahem* gonna, umm...kill, uh, someone over this. Nope. I can't make my threats sound convincing, can I? I guess I'm just too nice.

Ask Jasonc about that...in the last RT thread, he said that Mr. McKeever doesn't make a whole lot. He must be doing it out of love...

Hmmm...I guess I'll just try to get a different version (or maybe use VLC to shift the audio). Thanks, guys.

This isn't really a newbie question...but it's not a Frontier series question or a fansub question, either, so I figure this would be the safest place to put it... I've been downloading the QYQ Frontier BDRip (Vol. 1) and they also uploaded a patch to fix some things. Now, I downloaded the patches, but they're exe files, which are useless on my Mac. Does anyone know what they're for...? I have completely downloaded the Deculture Edition, which I tried to watch using MPlayer, but the audio is out of sync. The audio's fine on VLC, but the picture freezes. I figured that THAT was the problem, but I have a Q-R release of the Deculture Edition (which I'd completely forgotten about) and strangely, that has the same problems. Is it my fault, or is this the problem the patch would fix?

Probably so. I think all you really need to know is Grace + Connection to the Queen = bad. Vajra Queen - head = no problem. (and how would Grace enter the Queen's intestines, anyway? I can only think of two ways in, and neither of them is pleasant.)

C'mon, people...let's move on. Does anyone actually HAVE Chronicle #21 yet? As I said before, mine was delayed thanks to Golden Week. What's the Timeline Sheet like? And what's the new binder breakdown?

It's been a few months since the "Who's Alto gonna end up with (and you're on drugs if you disagree with my opinion)?" debate and the "Macross F: I Love/Hate the Homages" debate had any urgency to them, and the "What'll be in the Macross F Movie?" debate has already gotten a little stale... What the hell ELSE are we gonna do besides attack each other?

Yeah. I think Seto just has a colorful way of expressing himself. But really, there is, I think, a natural sense of disappointment that comes with any publication like this, especially for the hardcore fan. When the first issue came out, I was very excited...not so much for what the issue contined, but for the limitless possibilities of where it could go, and what it would cover. Now we're (probably) almost halfway through, and a lot of what I was hoping to see hasn't been -and probably won't be- covered in the way I would like it to be. Because of the website, we've been expecting fifty issues. That seemed like a lot when the magazine began, but now it seems kind of restrictive. That said, they've given me a lot of stuff I never expected. Who would've thought they would have a full sheet devoted to the Nature Reclamation Project? Or so much about Planet Eden? Or the Mylene fashion parade (hey, I may not be thrilled about it, but I never expected it)? And yes, Seto's right. Macross II has gotten short shrift. But so has Macross 7: The Galaxy Is Calling Me. And the differences between the OVA and Movie versions of Macross Plus aren't even really being addressed. But that's to be expected. Look at it this way: Fifty Issues...Macross comprises three TV series of varying lengths, four or five (depending on if you count M7 Encore) OVA series, three theatrical films (with another on the way), and tons of games and books. Fifty issues for all of that. Evangelion, on the other hand, has a shortish TV series and two movies (not counting the new ones). And Evangelion Chronicle...? Thirty Issues. Eva Chronicle had the space to be expansive, authoritative, and to go beyond what had been previously published. Macross Chronicle doesn't.

Enh, I despised the last film, so I feel no excitement for this one. I doubt I'll see it. However, some people seem to be really looking forward to it, so I'll refrain from any further comment.

Mysterious symbols? Egyptian ruins? Psychic links? "I feel smarter already"? Devastator's not the only thing that's gonna suck...

BURN THE HERETIC!!!! BURN HIM!!!

Enh. I still think it's a joke. No one posts a comment on youtube about the Princess Mononoke soundtrack, saying "Robotech pwns this" unless they're trying to be funny. Or trollish. But either way, it's an act. Has to be. EDIT: Just checked his youtube page...he's added Cowboy Bebop and Space Gandam V to his list of Robotech spin-offs. NO ONE who loves Robotech would want to have Space Gandam V associated with it. He's just a troll.

Can't be. RobotechFanPlus knows how to spell, and how to use punctuation.

It's either a joke or he's got Fun Dip instead of brains.

Mmm...I'd say "Macross Generation" is probably the most obscure Macross out there...but yeah, I'm pleased that Macross II is actually getting at least one fold-out mecha spread. After the previous pages, I was worried that we wouldn't even get THAT.

I dunno, that sounds like a good project. And after you finish, you can send an email off the editorial staff of Chronicle saying, "See? THIS is how you should've done it!" PM'd you.

I'm not even sure they say they own Macross...pretty much all I've ever heard them say is "We own all of Robotech." Which is EVEN MORE succinct, cryptic, and damn unhelpful.

I guess we'll have to disagree on that one...I will point out, thought, that the Macross itself has been prominently featured in all 36 episodes of SDFM, DYRL, FB2012, all 6 episodes of II, the last 2 episodes of Plus, and briefly at the beginning of Zero and at the end of Frontier. It is one of the foundations for anything Macross, even giving the franchise its title. The Valkyrie II isn't nearly as important. Crap...at least let me change out of my good clothes, first. So...it's not for yourself that you find the page lacking, it's for other people who may read it? Specifically, English speaking people (since you mention U.S. Renditions; which is surprising to me. I thought you would've mentioned Palladium)...? It strikes me that anyone in the Western world who A) can get their hands on Chronicle, and B) can read the text probably has enough awareness of the series not to need as much guidance separating official stats from wrong-headed RPG stats. But I may be mistaken.

Exactly. I have a friend named Miho. She got into anime when she was in high school, when one of her friends showed her Macross Plus (which had just come out in Japan). She never watched the original SDFM, DYRL, or 7. Instead, she just started watching anything that Yoko Kanno scored (except Turn A Gundam...she never saw that one). When Frontier was about to begin, she wanted to watch it (because of Yoko Kanno's involvement), but was worried that the fact that she hadn't seen any other Macross series might hinder her enjoyment of the show. Since she knew I was a fan, she asked me about it, and I ended up loaning her all of my Macross DVDs. She found that she really liked SDFM, DYRL, and Zero, but she couldn't make it through 7, and wasn't thrilled with II. Frontier started, she watched the series, loved it, and now considers herself a Macross fan. I loaned her some of my books, but she really doesn't have the time or the inclination to build a full Macross library from scratch, especially since some of the sought-after books are difficult to find, and expensive. I like to think the she is the ideal audience for Macross Chronicle.

Ah well...I tried. Again, I think it's unfair to compare the Valkyrie II to the Macross. But let's look at what they DID give us about the ship's origins: a small paragraph in one of the Extra Reports. That's it. A project that INCLUDES Macross II (no, no...let's use a different example...hmm...major animated production...anniversary release...okay, got it.) A project that INCLUDES Macross Dynamite 7 will of necessity not have as much info as one DEVOTED to Macross Dynamite 7. While there may be an interview with Tetsuro Amino where he gave a detailed description of life cycle of the Space Whales, or an artbook that details all the little differences between the VF-19P and and the VF-19A, or (as March said) more information on the VF-5000, all that information is not necessarily going to make its way into the Chronicle. Because while Macross Dynamite 7 is indeed a major animated production, produced for the 15th Anniversary, it's just not as popular as the original, or as Macross Frontier. Or Plus. Or 7. Or DYRL. Although Chronicle is a vast project, they still have limited space (they're gonna have to start doubling up the Song Sheets soon if they want to include ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, for example). And what's popular will always get more coverage than what's not. All that said, there's always the possibility of more pages devoted to whatever you want to see. March wanted more info of the VF-5000...well, there may be a "B" page down the line. Who would have thought we've have FIVE SHEETS devoted to the VF-1J (much to Azrael's chagrin), with the ever-present possibility of more? The magazine hasn't even covered half of its run yet...there could always be more. Anyway, I can understand the frustration..I was hoping the Timeline Sheets would bring together EVERYTHING...animation, novels, drama albums...but they don't. They cover the animation only. And I already know most of what they cover. Which brings me to something in your post that I find puzzling...and I'm probably misreading you here, so please don't jump all over me if I am...but, you say you're not looking for "new" or "hidden" information, but stuff that is available in the offficial books. And you have all the Macross II books, correct? So you're upset because they omitted information that you already have? Whatever for?

Both of you are kinda right... From the AnimEigo liner notes for Ep. 23: And for Ep. 27: Now, IIRC, the Robotech Art 1 (which may or may not be the most reliable source) said that the series was originally going to be 39 episodes, and then was cut down, and the story was crammed to fit. When the series was extended, the creators had already mapped out the story as a shorter series. They extended some of the episodes (and added the two clip shows), but the decision to do the Post-SWI episodes was defnitely an afterthought. I may be wrong about some of that, since I haven't looked at Robotech Art 1 for about twenty years, but I'm pretty sure that that was the gist of it.

I haven't received my copy yet (stupid Golden Week...making my shipments late... ), but is it possible that 2090 is the rollout year for the VF-2SS...? And if the year IS a mistake, it's not the first one. Does EX-gear mean "Extended Gear" or "Extender Gear"? They've shown both. As for predecessors or development history, why are you expecting information from this page that hasn't been included for ANY mecha in Chronicle? Yes, they show some lineart of predecessors (if it exists...I was really hoping to see what the original VF-11 MAXL looked like, but 'twas not to be), but development history...? I haven't seen ANY of that ANYWHERE in the Mecha Sheets (Technology Sheets are a different story). And it seems unfair to lambast the editors for not including the stuff you want to see about Macross II, when so far, there's been no information at all from, say, the SDFM novels and short stories, various staff interviews in magazines, and things of that nature. It's trying to be a BASIC encyclopedia of Macross, not "The Hidden Secrets of the Macross Universe." Hell, we don't even know yet if Macross II will covered in the History Sheets...

Indeed. I was at Anime Expo '04 when HG revealed that they had discovered that they had the merchandising rights. Their first DYRL toys came out soon after.

That's true, and I remember reading the reason the set "Enterprise" in the early days of the Federation ws to get around a lot of the more restirctive sections of the Star Trek Bible.

I guess I wasn't clear enough...what you describe is what I had in mind.