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It's a little more convoluted than that... There are three timelines for Yamato (not including the comics and stuff like that). Timeline 1: 1. Space Battleship Yamato (TV Series or Movie Version) 2. Farewell Space Battleship Yamato (Movie) Timeline 2: 1. Space Battleship Yamato (TV Series or Movie Version) 2. Space Battleship Yamato 2 (TV Series) 3. Space Battleship Yamato: The New Voyage (TV Movie) 4. Be Forever Yamato (Movie) 5. Space Battleship Yamato III (TV Series) Timeline 3 is the same as Timeline 2, except Final Yamato takes the place of III (and yes, for some reason Yamato 2 is written with the Arabic numeral, and yet Yamto III uses Roman). There's also Yamato 2520, but that was never completed.

No, he never had a 1A in the TV show...not even when he was shown piloting a cannon fodder brownie.

That'd be nice...but really, I just hope it's a good movie!

Now you're abandoning Klang, too? You, sir, are a fickle, fickle man.

Chronicles #25: Machanic Sheet * VA-3C Kai Invader * SDF-1 Macross * Zentradi Forces Pod [This had better be a "B" Sheet...I WANT A TEMJIN GLAUG, DAMMIT!] * YF-19 Character Sheet * Ishtar * Galactic Whale Poachers * The People of Macross Frontier N.U.N.S. Timeline Sheet * To the Edge of the Connection of Hate History Sheet * Riot on Gallia 4 Technology Sheet * Reaction Weapons Glossary Sheet [WOW! It FINALLY makes its debut!] * "Armored Pack" to "Atlantis Dome" World Guide Sheet * The United Earth Government Song Sheet * SEVENTH MOON / MY FRIENDS Goods Sheet * Bandai Macross Crusade * Bandai High-Metal Series

Which is why I feel a certain soft spot for Grace. And for Mina...

Why, dreamweaver...I do believe you're flirting... Anyway, thanks arielle-san! Should we all try to meet up in Saitama or wait until we get to Shinjuku? EDIT: I'm a little unsure whether we should continue this in PM form, or if we should leave it open so that anybody who wants to join us can do so...

UPDATE: One of the links Xeros posted was too good to pass up. Famitsu #1035 sent from NY for only $6.50 plus shipping? Sold. It should be arriving in a week or so.

I dunno...there's always people like Supershadow willing to exploit gullible fans. Of course, Supershadow is easily seen through. The Ohnogi stuff seems deliberately designed to be difficult to verify. I'd like to believe you're right. However, someone who says, "A good friend gave me all fifteen volumes in the Studio Nue Entertainment Bible series, and I read the stories in them and here are the summaries" doesn't seem to be misled at all. It seems like he is trying to dupe people (or perhaps play a prank. It's possible that all this is joke, I guess... )

If "Macross 7 Docking Festival" is to be believed, Milia actually runs a flight school.

It's funny...when I reread the "Liner Notes" in preparing to write this essay, I was primarily looking for inconsistencies and mistakes, but still...I was impressed at how much verifiable stuff is in there. Now, of course, "verifiable" in this case means, "Stuff that didn't slip past me when viewing the series," so there was nothing new to me among the genuine facts, but the breadth and depth of them was impressive. I thought maybe I could do some kind of Snopes.com-style thing with them...green font for true, red font for false, white for undetermined, or something like that. I won't end up doing that (I've already spent more time with those "liner notes" than I'd like), but I think a lot of people would be interested in something like that. And I fully realize that I haven't really proven ANYTHING, beyond the need for better documentation from Shaloom. He could easily come out of the woodwork and provide scans and mp3s that would blow our minds. I find the possibility remote, but it's still a possibility. (The lack of Ohnogi's name in the credits, or ANYWHERE in either of the Frontier books I have should be enough to discredit the idea but not to completely bury it.) As I said before, the Famitsu Interview (or a response from Satelite) is the smoking gun here. If that doesn't have Ohnogi in it, then we know Shaloom's lying ABOUT OHNOGI. There's a lot of other stuff that I'd like to know about as well, but Shaloom would have to come clean first. (For example, is Ranka's backpack based on a design by the Macross Attack Team? Shawn and Graham haven't even seen the "Sky Angels" doujinshi that came out in the early '80s, so there's no way to tell. Ditto the end of episode 8 being a reference to the difficult-to-get-to secret ending of the "Macross Love Stories" game. Even if I could find someone who's played it and won, maybe they didn't get to the secret ending. Or maybe it doesn't exist. Who knows, besides the game designers and Shaloom?) For references and homages, the task is made considerably easier by the fact that the DVDs and BDs come with notes that have a section devoted to the homages in each episode (it's called "MACROSS CHECK!"), but I'm not sure those are complete. Until I get the Famitsu Interview, all I can do is present interviews, credits, and commentary, hacking away at Shaloom's thesis by pointing out things that SHOULD be there, but aren't. But I think unless Shaloom either presents evidence or comes clean, we'll never know the truth or falsity of some of his more obscure claims. I was kind of hoping that hub-bub over here and at AnimeSuki would more or less force Shaloom to take a stand, but it doesn't seem to have happened yet. I was rather stunned at how quickly everyone at AnimeSuki agreed with me...but I think that has more to do with Magnuskn and Cheesie coming to my aid than anything I actually said. And I'm pretty certain Final Vegeta will not be convinced. Maybe it will be the same with Macross Generation's regular readers. Anyway, yes, I'm agreeing with you. There's certainly interesting information to be gleaned from any interview, but the Famistu Interview NEEDS to be fully translated, if only because of the amount of weight placed on it by Shaloom.

Although I kinda wish they'd leave Yamato well enough alone, I have to say I started grinning like a stupid kid as soon as they showed the Yamato's bridge, and yes...when it launched I felt a little thrill down my back. Not sure I like the character designs, but the space battle looked pretty cool. I'm feeling cautiously optimistic about it...I'll have to find out the running time to really be sure, though (theatrical Yamato movies should run AT LEAST two hours and fifteen minutes. Longer, if possible).

Sounds good to me. My friend is only taking one day off of work, but I don't know if it's the day OF the concert or the day AFTER the concert. I'm assuming the former, since she lives in Shizuoka. If that's the case (and I'll send an email to her right after I finish this), she and I will probably be parting ways in Shinjuku, and then I'll just intend on spending a few hours talking Seatbelts and May'n with you guys.

I know almost nothing about the concert...anyone know how long it'll run? And it takes...what, about 45 minutes to get back to Tokyo from Saitama, right? Does this mean we'll be out all night? (If so, I'm game. I'll probably still be roughly on Pacific Time...not sure about my friend though.)

It seems like it's not as necessary, but yes: once we get our hands on the Famitsu interview, I'm going to translate it and post it here. That should be the final nail in the coffin of the Ohnogi Conspiracy.

Way back here: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...st&p=601726

BRAVO! This is the post David Hingtgen should have written.

Yes, yes it would. BOMBAA!! (And in the interest of historical accuracy, here's what I believe to be the first giant red BOMBAA!! in MacrossWorld history: http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...st&p=635344 )

That part doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me, either. Shaloom is defnitely a Sheryl fanatic. All of the Ohnogi interviews (as Final Vegeta pointed out) is really sly pro-Sheryl, anti-Ranka stuff. Likewise, the "references" to "Ohnogi's" "novels" all show Ranka in a bad light compared to Minmay (e.g. Ranka running away from President Glass's funeral service is supposedly a reference to a similar situation where Minmay stayed and sang. Actually, according to the "MACROSS CHECK!" section of the relevant DVD booklet, the scene is a reference to Minmay in the dinner theatre in episode...29? 30? where she likewise didn't sing). Sheryl is continually given Misa's lines from the "novels." Also with the interviews, Shaloom is trying to set up Sheryl as the clear winner of the triangle, and it was only Kawamori's irrational love of Ranka that gave us the triangler ending. There's also a lot of stuff about Max and Roy, and Ozma and Michael. The point of this is entirely unclear to me. Simply put (and I have no evidence for this, so take it for what it's worth), I think the ending made Shaloom angry. Very angry. So angry that he started writing stuff about how the ending SHOULD have been, and how Kawamori cocked the whole thing up. Now he could have written an essay about how much he hated the ending, and he would have gotten a large audience. As far as I can tell, Macross has a large following in Latin America, and Macross Generation seems to be THE premier Macross forum for the Spanish-speaking world. Why he chose instead to present it as fact is a mystery to me. He had to have known someone would find out eventually...unless he really believed he had covered his tracks with such convincing bogus sources that no one would ever find out. And if he thought that, he's essentially right. There's nothing I found that proves anything he said was wrong. There's just nothing that proves it right, either, and a lot of circumstantial evidence to show that it's wrong (such as the fifteen-volume Studio Nue Entrtainment Bible series. As Graham said, if they existed, someone would have found them by now). Anyway, for MONTHS, bishopcruz and I were furiously PMing each other, and all of those messages were pretty much the same: "Looked for the radio show again today. Found nothing." "Really? I looked for the novels today. Still nothing." Finally, I figured we had enough nothing that I'd talk to Magnuskn about it. To his credit, although he didn't believe us at first, he was incredibly helpful and cooperative. Once he saw enough, though, he realized it was probably all a hoax, too. Pretty much everyone I've talked to has eventually been swayed. Well, except Final Vegeta.

Ewww... "Iteza gogo kuji DON'T BE LATE...desu na."

No, it shouldn't have had to be done, but becoming an amateur sleuth for a while was kind of fun. It was just frustrating because Shaloom tended to over his tracks VERY well, referring to books and magazines that exist, but are possessed by very few people. And when cornered (as with the "MBS Macross Radio Show"), he'd make up something even MORE obscure to take its place. It wasn't until I started finding factual errors in the interviews (like "Ohnogi" saying he worked on Plus) before I really started to feel confident that Shaloom was making all of it up. All that said, the REAL Ohnogi is quite a good writer. I really liked his story ("Fancy Days") in My Fair Minmay, and his novella about Misa seems very promising. His episodes for SDFM are some of the best in the series (Matsuzaki's better for the action episodes, Ohnogi's better for the character-driven ones), and I'm sure if he HAD written some episodes for Frontier, they would've been great. But it's hard for me to see his name now without thinking of the pompous ass "interviewed" by "Bobby." And to Lindem Herz...there are a number of people here and at Animesuki who are members of Macross Generation. I can't imagine it'll take too long for news to spread...especially considering the kerfuffle over at AS about it. I'm not sure my prose style is easy to translate (long sentences with lots of dependent clauses), but Google Translation works pretty well between Spanish and English, and I don't think it'll be much of a problem.

Nah, you ALL got it wrong, it's BOMBAA!! It must be red Impact italic...since it's the same font AgentONE uses (yes, I picked it SOLELY for that reason).

Shinjuku's fine with me.

I realize you're being sarcastic, but dude...I am SO keeping that. Look at it this way...if you read something about dozens of other Valkyries that Kawamori had designed (no pictures, just descriptions), wouldn't you want to find out more about them for M3? And if the person who posted the info said they came from a few issues of Animedia from '86, wouldn't you want to see them? And even if you were pretty convinced it was all a put-on, wouldn't you still kind of wonder, "what if it's not?" That's kind of the situation I'm facing. The Frontier writing credit was more bishopcruz's part of the mystery, I was never terribly interested in that...the bit that got me was all these Ohnogi novels and short stories (that apparently don't exist). Now I know most people here aren't very interested in the EXISTING Macross novels to worry about ones that don't exist...but since I'm working on the COMPLETE Macross Translation Project, and since part of the purpose of it is to standardize the subs for all the Macross series so that dialogue echoed from one series to another can be recognized to non-Japanese speakers as echoes or homages, well, finding those Ohnogi stories became my top priority for a while. Until I realized they didn't exist. So yeah, Ohnogi didn't work on Frontier, and all the talk about Kawamori not knowing how to tell a decent story, and Ohnogi being the greatest writer ever is all just silly. But more importantly (for me, anyway), there's no story where Max keeps a picture of Milia inside his helmet, there's no story where Minmay wants to meet with Hikaru on his birthday, but he has to escort Misa to earth, there's no story where Hikaru grabs Minmay's hand and she thinks about how warm it is and how he's the brother she never had. All of these tantalizing glimpses into other views of the characters are just fanfiction by Shaloom. There, I said it. happy now?

No, the meaning is easy to understand (and I've seen it dozens of times already), but "songstress" sounds more what you'd call, say, Bette Midler or Aretha Franklin...not Sheryl Nome. "Diva" came to me, and I think it works. (And yes, I know Sheryl's English signs say "Songstress of the Galaxy." I don't care. It makes her sound boring to me.)