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Ah, here we are: http://macross.anime.net/wiki/Roy_Focker 216cm, or 7.08 feet. So how big does that make the SDF-1?

I know I've seen a height chart showing all the (human) characters standing together, but I can't seem to find it right now. Anyway, Focker was a little bit taller than a Womp Rat. Curses! I am foiled again by your irrefutable logic!

I finally found (or, more honestly, was directed to) the Easter Egg on The Plan DVD. It was worth a chuckle or two.

I'll give it this: the "battle music" is less intolerable than Robotech's.

How 'bout "It can't be! It's the end of civilization!"? CLASSIC JACK KIRBY-INSPIRED CINEMA:

*shrug* It's an understandable assumption. I think we all did a double-take at the name. And (strangely) "Yang" Neumann in Macross Plus. Going from playing a 7-foot-tall, hard-drinking ladies man to a scrawny, 18-year-old, bespectacled geek...is that career progress...?

He also apparently has no posting privileges.

Just got a PM from 1st Border Red Devil...apparently, there IS wiggle room at the end of End of the Circle to continue the story, as Rick and Lisa prepare to take the SDF-4 to the Andromeda Galaxy...

According to First Border Red Devil, it's not Kevin McKeever. Admiral McKeever is unrelated.

Where she ended up with Rem and became Zor's mother. Seriously...that's the ONLY thing I remember from that book. I haven't seen Robotech Art 3, so I wouldn't know. But I think End of the Circle was stuff that was meant to be in Robotech III: The Odyssey, so Art 3 probably didn't cover it.

No, really. The whole thing ends with a time loop. When your ending takes you back to the beginning, how do you write a further sequel?

I wanted to put something like that in, but there wasn't enough room. (For the record, my version ran: "What do you hear, Soldier?" "Nothing but the rain." "Then grab your gun and zoom in on the c*ck.")

Of course there has. Book 1 of the Macross Saga comes after End of the Circle.

Yeah. Zentradi Rebellion, Masters' Gambit, and Before the Invid Storm.

Well, I never liked them, but for reasons unconnected to their literary quality. Being a kid, I for some reason thought that because I wanted to learn more about the original series, the novels would somehow magically provide that. Instead, I got something that tried to bind the three series even closer together. You could've gotten the greatest writer in the world to write them, and I probably wouldn't have liked them. For reasons I can't recall, though, I did read all of them (well, up to End of the Circle, anyway...I never read the three books after that). Anyway, there's A LOT of added material in them, from the epigrams that starts each chapter, to the thinking caps, to the enhanced role for Dr. Lang (and others). I think the divisions between books are rather haphazard in a way (each of the Macross Saga books covers six episodes, regardless of the specific ebbings and flowings of the plot...most people, for example, would think of episode 27 as a good ending place for a book, and 28 as a good beginning for the next, but Book 5 covers 24-30). I'll admit that they're probably more satisfying than the Japanese Macross TV novelization. First, because they're longer (Macross is three books, Macross Saga is six); second, because the Robotech novels are fuller. The Macross books are pretty bare-bones, with very few added scenes...in fact, a lot gets cut out of them. I don't remember the Masters books very well...most of what I recall is the ending of the story, which has a rather large section tacked on with Dr. Zand attacking Dana (and getting turned into a Flower of Life), Dana kissing Angelo, and a whole lot of set-up for Robotech III: The Odyssey. The New Gen books I remember almost nothing about, except for the way the writers tried to deal with the episodic nature of Mospeada. As I recall, each episode was covered in two or three chapters. And the chapter that covered the end of one chapter would also include the beginning of the next. It seemed like a clumsy and artificial way to try to stitch the story together. A better solution, I think, would've been to embrace the episodic format and write them as picaresque novels. Or else they could've introduced more material between each episode, to show the evolving thoughts of the heroes...so that way, if there's little plot continuity, at least there'd be character continuity. Again, I think the Macross Saga books are the best of the bunch, but that's because Macross is a better story than Southern Cross or Mospeada (arguably, of course). I don't think there's a whole lot there for Macross Purists to enjoy, however.

My predictions: Character Sheets: Zero Citizen: * 02A Mao Nome M U.N.S. * 01C and D Hikaru Ichijo * 03B Roy Focker * 04B Maximilian Jenius Zentradi * 06A - Kamujin Kravshera Citizen * 03B People Aboard the Macross PLUS Citizen * 03A Sharon Apple 7 U.N.S. * 02A Maximilian Jenius * 03A Milia Jenius [or is she a civilian by this point...?] * 04A Exsedol Formo * 05A Captain Kinryu * 12B Soldiers of Macross 7 Varauta * 03A Sivil Citizen * 02H Mylene Flare Jenius [Just kidding! Maybe.] * 05A Akiko hojo [or Milia if she's a civilian...] * 06A Rex * 07A Michael Johnson * 09A ??? * 10A ??? * 11A ??? * 12A The Flower Girl * 13A People of Macross 7 7Gin Citizen * 01A Emilia D7 U.N.S. * 01A Liza Hoyley [she IS in the military, right...?] Citizen * 01A Basara Nekki * 02A Mylene Flare Jenius Etc. * 01A Rascher F Citizen * 01B/C Alto Saotome * 08A Soldiers of SMS [Maybe...? I dunno.] Ai UNS * 04A Maximilian Jenius / Hayao Kakizaki * 07A People of UNS Meltrandi * 02A Molk Laplamiz Citizen * 01C Lynn Minmay * 02A Lynn Kaifun * 03A People Aboard the Macross II UNS * 01A Sylvie Jena Citizen * 03A Wendy Ryder

Got some independent corroboration, and a scan. Looks like Wanzerfan's actually RIGHT! (And I'm properly ashamed.) EDIT: Here it is, if anyone's interested:

Again, I'm not trying to be mean. It's just that Wanzerfan's posts are inaccurate often enough that he should probably show some proof if he expects to be believed.

I think Taksraven knows that (since he added the winking smiley).

If you like 'em, then this video is for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zO6kjNNd8Q

If you can find which one and scan it or something, that'd be great. No offense intended, but I think we can both agree that, um, you're not a terribly reliable source.

Okay...it finally loaded all the way, and STILL it cuts out before the end of the episode. I saw enough to know that it sucks, though.

I keep trying to watch it, but the video seems to stop loading at about 21 minutes in, just as the hero robots are about to go out and save the day. Before that, it's a lot of scenes of the main character driving around in his crappy van and sounding alarmed... I love how the robot transformation sequence is almost shot-for-shot the same as the end of Macross Zero Episode 1.

THIS GUY is still the champion. Okay, I'm watching the upload kresphy provided...I haven't gotten to the show itself yet, but "Crazy Baby" is all kinds of awesome. By the way, is it called "Astro Plan" or "Space Adventures"...?