Myersjessee

Yess...they are complete guesstimates....Im simply trying to put a price point in, which we can report to SMT. If they say its going to be cheaper...great..going to be a lot more expensive..well then we can repoll. Im trying to base them on similar kits (size and complexity) the WF 1/72 Phalanx was like $120..thus the Destroid price. The Racer should be similar to the Viper SMT did...and the booster I am equating to the resin Viper launch rail for the studio scale kit...if I am way off...sorry.

Scale Model Technologies (SMT) is a resin kit manufacturer. LTSO had soem luck talking to them about making Macross models (they are currently doing a 1/100 scale Monster) We were discussing going to them with a potential product and order (we will buy 25 of these if you make them) and see if they will get them. Models are (proposed) 1/72 scale Macross 0 Destroid (above...will go nicely with our Hase VF0 ) 1/48 Fan Racer (Hikaru's ride in ep1..nice scale and goes with the 1/48's ) 1/72 VF Booster (for Hase's)

KaKarot! Great to hear from you!!! I love that 1/48 Racer...I hope someone will recast it...if it doesnt work out drop me a PM and we will make it happen one way or another!!!! SWEEET!

Those are the original price lists from the order. Mechwarrior...with all due respect, I can't speak for everyone, but I have never tried to gouge anyone on a CatsEye price. In fact, when Tanmen told me he only had 5 left, I let the whole Macross community know right away. (youll note I didn't hide it and go try and scoff them up myself...which I could have) I didn't offer to try and add them to the order out of respect for the current situation, but you and anyone else with the knowledge had the capabililty to try and order one on your own. People have asked me to recast it...and I have tried to politley say I dont think I could. Even some of our expert casters (MSLZ22, Valkyrie) have suggested while possible it would be a lot of work. Its not that I don't want to...but rather, I think it would be to much for my skill. Further, I do worry about my kit. I paid over $100 for it...which is a lot for a model (for me) It is very delicate and I worry that the fuselage array mounts or other things would be very hard to mold, and easy to break if done wrong. You'll excuse me if that idea of chopping up my investment for some recaster to mold isn't the most tempting for me. (and youll note...I didn't say no...only that I would rather not) Finally, there is the fact that I am trying very hard to keep Tanmen happy and get the $1000 worth of models still owed to Macross World members...and all I keep hearing is how other members want stuff and lets recast what we have. (the screw Tanmen approach) I haven't given up yet, and I don't want to offend Tanmen, or give him any reason to back out of the order. Based on that alone I would not recast my CatsEye. Further...I dont see how we would make any money on it. The CatsEye (for instance) would cost nearly as much for me to make as it cost Tanmen...and I would only be able to turn out 20...so..unless people who bought one all volunteared to pay for the CatsEye and chip in an extra $50 for the people who got ripped off I dont see how recasting it would help us. (in regards to the Tanmen order) Considering this would you be interetsed if I proposed cutting up one of your valuable toys or models? "Hey..I got a cool idea...send me your (low vis, 1/55 VE, etc) ...Ill cut it up into little pieces that are easy to mold and we will sell them... "

perhaps not...but I am trying to base the price on scale...its a tiny amount of resin considering it's 1/72 scale (about 1/2 the size of a Hase...but hollow) Also, I would think easy to sculpt....if I am wrong so be it...but thats my guess. THe whole 1/48 Viper is only $80....which is a lot more pieces and sculpting (I would think) The AWing was like $60...

I tried, for a while, to explain to friends what it was all about. Now, I don't. If people ask, I am fairly cursory in my responses. "they are from a show I loved as a kid...models and toys...blah blah" End it quick and speak as I am walking out of the room. It helps to have a wife who is understanding, and children to pin some of the obsession on.. "Lucas loves this stuff... "

man I hope I got mine from Kevin too!

Don't forget the Cyclones! They need some love, too you had me at hello....

Sithlord posted this one.

very excellent Shawn!

when it comes right down to it I hope it does well...perhaps they will do more stuff, and perhaps it will generate more Mospeada interest, which will perhaps generate more sales, which will perhaps convince Toynami to pay Captain America millions of $ for his Legioss....and a Beta...and some Invid... Trickle-down toy-nomics.

So...I was thinking we shouldn't let this die, and we should give it another try. In my opinion LTSO had it right, we need to focus this discussion. So, the topic is simple, how many orders could we get to go to SMT with. Im going to suggest 3 possible models. If you would be interested in buying any of those 3, for the proposed pricing I am listing please respond. If you are not interested or want something else, please hold onto those thoughts for now. 1/48 FanRacer - $70 1/72 Valk Booster (Hase Compatible) -$50 1/72 Macross Zero Destroids - $110 If we can get the orders high enough I will ask LTSO to send them off for us again. (If he will ) The prices I am listing are complete guesses...but it always helps to see a number when signing up. Please do not sign up unless you are 80%sure or higher that you would buy. First commitment, me. 1 of each. Who is next. I will tally totals by updating this post. ORDERS 1/48 FanRacer - $70 Myersjessee (1) Exo (1) Neova (1) Tristan Lindo (1) Penguin (1) 1/72 Valk Booster (Hase Compatible) -$50 Myersjessee (2) WMCheng (2) 007-VF1 (1) ChirstopherB (1) Neova (1) to177 (2) Tristan Lindo (2) Penguin (1) Noyhauser (1) Grayson72 (1) 1/72 Macross Zero Destroids - $110 Myersjessee(1) Grayson72 (1) 007-VF1 (1) Major Tom (1) ChristopherB (1) Neova (3) to177 (1) Tristan Lindo (1) dyowelb (1) Penguin (1)

LTSO...yep...thats the problem. Tanmen himself (who has had success) isn't doing all these unusual designs..why? Well...its costly, and demand isn't that high. Macross/Robotech (in the US) isn't a large market. As a result, no one is going to spend a lot of time and money to make a concept or rarely seen ship unless they A) Really love it B) Think it will have lasting value (to the company in sales) Tanmen is not planning on redoing the Catseye molds....and he is in Japan..that about sums up the value of the ship to a model company. If it was selling like gangbusters I would suspect he would have made new molods. Its cool...I love mine, but its not going to make the profit line go through the roof. So...how do you circumvent that? A) Sculpt it yourself. As we have seen MW members do, make it yourself. Then, you can recast it, or work with a company like SMT. Their expense is a lot less if they dont have to make it. CobyWan did this with his awesome lancer. The Monster will be another example. n Obviousely, this one is tough. B) Get the masses behind you. I would suspect SMT would be much more likely to do a model we wanted if we could guarentee a nice chunk of sales..but that means cooperation between us. C) Pick something more popular - If I ran SMT I would want to start with something that would expand my purchase base. If I could guarentee sales up front, and thought it would come with a lasting value it's much easier for me to do the project. But, based on this, you can't do esoteric ships from single eps. They just wont catch on. The scale of the sales should also be in line with the pricing of the kits. THis is why I keep preaching 1/72...1/48 Glaugs for example, while I would love them, will be very very expensive..and thus a large investment on SMT's part. A acualized 1/72 or even 1/60 Glaug might be the way to start...then as the following to the product grows, you can consider larger endevors...like a 1/48 Glaug. I could tell by his posts that LTSO got this...but I think a lot of us didn't. I'm going to start a new thread on this topic.,..maybe we can gather enough orders.

thanks!

started posting about 3 years ago...

Can anyone tell me if the cockpit area would be glass? I know the model is solid...I'm just wondering if it should be glossed and tinted like tinted glass, or if it's metal. (ala the Zentradi Fighter Pod)

Yep...I thought about that....and it might be the way...but I would hate to have all the weight out on the engine...and I would hate to cute mine up Seems like a big risk...

Its actually been out for a while...but never got much press.

Check out the models section at the front of MacrossWorld...and check the kits under BClub, Orange, UNCM, Club M, and Yellow Sub, IHP, and Reppu....that will get you started. I would recommend a non variable to start with. The monkey nugget stuff is excellent!

ive got issues...I realize that now...

mmm...Mac0 Destroids would be great! 1/58 would be large and pricey though...maybe 1/72?

Nice work!

hmm...If I was trying to prove my innocene..and I was innocent...I would think I would show the recast interiors.,..and would show the VT molds... Is it just me? This is a slippery slope...I think we all know exactly what kind of person we are dealing with here...the 24 hours is up...and while thats plenty of time to make a new mold Arafat has failed too...this whole inane story needs to end. This guy ripped off Rob...and now has the balls to pretend they are his resins. Arafat...your tired of this...please...do me a favor appologize to Rob, and pay him the money you obviousley owe him. Forget the charade and stop pretending you don't know basic rules of right and wrong. Better yet leave Macross World....I promise not to follow you. This whole thing really irks me.

my wallet says "COOL!" (though my heart sighs... )

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