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Final Vegeta

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  1. Well, I just remembered Sony bought Metro-Goldwin-Mayer to impose the next standard of DVD... don't tell me Gundam live movie is a case of corporate lobbying between Sony and Bandai... FV
  2. Yes, I read that only later, anyway someone may have drawn it reading the notes authors made at the time, Japanese fans really care for all details. Maybe that "EMC package" was not supposed to be in the head, but I think that, since that technology was found even in Regults, VF-1s were more than likely to be outfitted with it (that said I don't know if it was originally limited to a mode - maybe Fighter). In itself the EMC was kinda an in-joke with Gundam's Minowsky particles, and it was done in such a subtle way most of people who have watched Macross don't remember it. Well, maybe the VF-1 isn't supposed to have an "IDECM", but it's a trifle. Since Macross Zero was done in these years authors chose to have modern names, but the substance is all the same. Seeing that way I think every VF (with the possible exclusion of VC-1 and other similar Valkyries) is outfitted with stealth technologies, even if Compendium doesn't mention it. Stealth, along with Battroid-tougher-than-Fighter, seems to be the basis of Macross' fights as they were intended from the beginning. FV
  3. It was called EMC, obviously to mean something that works like ECM but is not ECM. It was mentioned only in few episodes: 7, 8 and 19. I saw it even in this picture: FV
  4. After a while you are playing VF-X2 the VA-3 starts looking interesting. I like the proportions of the battroid more than the design itself. Obviously it's not a main star mecha, but it's not that bad. FV
  5. All VFs ever had a stealth system. In Macross TV there is a stealth system called EMC: it was used by SDF-1 and Gnerl fighters, but there was no reason Valkyrie didn't use it. FV
  6. "Yamato" means "Japan", no wonder. FV
  7. Actually I think Gamlin's helmet is slightly derived from Guld's. Since VF-17 and YF-21 are both made by General Galaxy it makes sense. Btw, I think the DYRL helmet is the coolest. FV
  8. Macross 3D VF-X, a project which got canceled and replaced by Macross Zero. Much like Macross Plus there would have been a competition between the prototype of the VF-17 and the SW-AX-1, an experimental stealth attacker based on the VF-1. Obviously the VF-17 won, and so we got the SW-AX-2. FV
  9. Macross is poor in both lies (like propaganda and doublespeak) and money (which paid the lies and the war), so it doesn't really rapresent reality of war. "Government is not the solution, it's the problem." Ronald Reagan "Communism, as a social system, involves the abolition of the state" Wikipedia Are you sure you aren't experiencing right now loss of individual rights or a brainwashing message flow about conformism, obeying to authority or anger against an enemy? Different faces, same coin. That is a good lesson you can learn from Macross, that peoples have a lot more in common than you could foresee. There is little difference between Communism and Nazism. The situation rapresented in SDF Macross obviously cames through Japan's hystory, but that means it is related to a Fascism, not to a Communism. Japan was never attacked by a Communist party-ruled state, and as far as imagination can goes I don't think Japaneses ever thought of themselves as the West despite the influence of US in its economy. Besides, Arjuna tells you what Kawamori thinks of free market. This was a thought about Macross' inner values. The cultural frame which you saw Macross through was interesting though even if naive. Personally I saw Macross because I saw Escaflowne. I am a Kawamori cultist. FV
  10. According to Compendium: PC 2870 A Protoculture survey ship stops temporarily on "Earth." By genetically reconstructing the native life, it plots the emergence of a sub-Protoculture adapted to the planetary enivronment, "Humankind," to prepare for future colonization. During its return to its home planet, the survey ship is destroyed by military ships opposed to the Stellar Republic. Records of Earth and Humankind are eventually lost. [PC 2900] The Evil series' final test was made in PC 2871, so it would happen later than the creation of the AFOS. There is however a second date within brackets. If we assume that is the revised real date, the AFOS was built after the Evil series, so everything will match. Despite the crisis rapresented by Protodevilns the dissolution of Stellar Republic happened only in PC 3000, and Earth was very likely to be an out-of-the-way planet in this galaxy, so no-one was supposed to have messed with the survey ship in its mission on Earth. FV
  11. I am one the guy whose childhood was raped by Episode 1 & 2, and I don't have expectation about Episode 3, but there is a funny coincidence going on. "Revenge of the Sith". After Kill Bill, The Punisher, Man On Fire, a current trend of Hollywood is involved in revenge movies. Some of them like Kill Bill may be a chance, even if Hollywood has clear ties with the Pentagon for propaganda movies, but even considering Darth Vader a negative figure (as he stand for evil) I am wondering whether he will be made fit the "born-again Christ figure" like in The Punisher and Man On Fire. The character actually allows for it, and Darth Vader was kinda a Nazi stereotype, but I hope he too won't declare a war on terror like Hitler did. FV
  12. Maybe the AFOS and the Protodevilns were kinda the same technology. The AFOS seems to require a human singer to work (hence the need for a song of destruction), while the Protodevilns were supposed to be independant of it. FV
  13. Really? I don't know. OGM mais = mais + scorpion, but it still doesn't look like a scorpion. I am in for the metaphoric meaning. Actually, even the Compendium says Protoculture didn't create our ancestors. I think they are the purest Protoculture blood around. I think ginga kujira were born before them. I think ginga kujira where the origin of all the life in the universe, since they like to spread bacteria on planets. Maybe the real reason of this galactic war was free market... FV
  14. You are right, he should have done both a Macross Zero and an Escaflowne Zero We just need more Kawamori. FV
  15. I think we should watch Macross Zero again to connect all pieces. I didn't remember Procacha ( = Protoculture). FV
  16. About the FAST Pack, you have to consider official mecha design comes from DYRL, and that's why in Zero the throttle is used to transform the VF. Since in DYRL everyone was using FAST Packs from the beginning, therefore even in Macross Zero everyone has them. I just noted Compendium has silently updated some pages (i.e.: Monster's and SV-51's). From VF-0's page: STRUCTURE: Space metal materials are used for the composition of the fuselage's frame, but titanium/carbon composite is used for the outer skin. FV
  17. Some drugs were invented before they find out what illness they actually cured, so you start sticking legs and arms to everything and sooner or later you will find a use for them FV
  18. I think the SV-52 was canceled from the story when Kawamori was told they needed another six months to model it until it looked really good. FV
  19. Given Operation Iconoclasm it's no wonder Macross Zero's history was kept top secret for fifty years. Anyway, I do feel Zero 5 was kinda rushed, but now that I think better Kawamori already used that kind of flashback incipit in one episode of Escaflowne and one of Macross 7. I still suspect he run out of time, though. Since Kawamori made no serious preproduction for Macross Zero there may be some wrong pacing and blending overall, but after having seen the end I think Macross Zero was quite well done. In a way this is more than the 20th anniversary of Macross, Macross Zero blends Macross 7 and Macross Plus and Escaflowne and Arjuna. It's a celebration of all the anime of Kawamori and then some. Another 20 years for Kawamori! FV
  20. Judging from the black triangle in the leading wing root, the lasers stay in the wing. FV
  21. What if the Bird Man just goes back to sleep again and wakes up in another Macross series and then destroys Earth? Impending doom. We are not sure Ivanov will die, or that he will die killed by Roy We are not sure from who or what Shin will save Sara It's a prequel, that's why you know all the answer. You have to admit the situation is different, and it's harder for authors to craft a story about outcomes you can easily guess. I think the questions just came from a advertiser who doesn't know his work, or maybe these questions are just outright misleading. The point of Macross Zero is not really the suspense, the bits of suspense are meant to make you swallow the rest, like the phosphoric acid in your drink. Now that I have watched Arjuna, I am more and more interested in Kawamori's vision of the Earth. My real question is: if Arjuna had influences from Bahgavad Gita, what is the tie between Macross Zero and the birdman cult of Easter Island? (the birdman cult was just a race to pick up an egg, as shown in Rapa Nui) FV
  22. I find that ridiculous. The mentor character in Escaflowne was Balgus. To be honest, Allen Schezar was actually inspired from Roy Focker. Folken has the rank of Britai, and the character seems more inspired from Guld than anyone else. The ranks of the enemy are somewhat intuitive: there is the commander who never sees the battlefield, a sort of emperor (Bodolza), the commander who sees the battlefield but doesn't fight personally (Britai), and the commander who fights (Kamjin). This is the basic structure, you can increase the number of commanders but these ranks are the most representative of an army. This is not what makes an anime formulaic. FV
  23. No, they won't. Valkyries will still have a gun as a main weapon, and as powerful as it may be it won't ever be a sweep up weapon like seen in other anime. What does more missiles mean? The VF-1 usually carried more missiles than the YF-19. There are powerful beam weapons for VFs, but they are still a rarity. In Kawamori anime the main mecha is not the most powerful of the anime. The anime will portray the fight as a fair challenge. Instead of boosting standard weapons Kawamori will invent different weapons for a different type of warfare. Seeing from the point of view of technological evolution, you can compare WWII's planes and jet fighters of the 70ies, maybe even for the tanks it's the same thing. Hiroshima's A bomb was 20 kilotons worth, now you have 2 megaton bunker busters. The Queadlunn Rau is more than double as tall as the alpha, it has 4 times the volume, and it has a huge backpack. Well it's true, but it's an anime. I would also say that VF-0D's wings carry more fuel than other VF-0s, but I don't think it was the reason behind its delta wings. In this world techological progress and war are intertwined. Internet itself was invented as a mean to communicate despite a nuke. During WWII Nazis invented a lot of vehicles, like the first jet fighter. Someone also says Project Manhattan wouldn't be possible weren't for half a ton of U-234 found in a Nazi submarine, and this was just Nazis researching out of nothing. In Macross' world the reverse engineering of the SDF-1 was a good starting point, and the war against anti-UN channeled a lot of money in R&D. There seems to be also a rivalry between Stonewell/Bellcom and Centinental. I would also say the Stonewell/Bellcom is a helluva big corporate defense contractor. In the Valkyrie Project was put every effort to beat competition. FV
  24. Exactly. Well, in real world they chose to go for the ghost FV
  25. Actually, even some real world plane did carry drones. Results weren't satisfying, but someone tried it. FV
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