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yup. and judging by Sam Worthington's next few movies (Clash of the Titans remake, Avatar), chances are he'll be popular enough that the writers will find a way to bring him back in the TS sequel (if there will be one).

huwaaaaaa!!

dreamweaver, a yoshinol acid trip later... well, the handcuffs could mean that love, while a source of fleeting happiness, was a prison of sorts. she had a fleeting happiness, either with kaifun or with hikaru (thus it was a clown doll), but it was keeping her from her true happiness and purpose, which was the music (thus, the handcuffs). nevertheless, that fleeting moment of being imprisoned by love remains in her as a memory of her heart "thrown into the sea and broken into pieces", and it is reflected in every piece of music that she comes out with (hence both of them are spinning on the record player). dreamweaver, after getting sober... meh. it was a sex game.... who gets turned on by a doll, and who gets turned on by being handcuffed, i leave to your imagination...

care to start?

We can't just do that! we pick the red pill.

oh yeah, forgot about that one. certainly that could have been his original death, but it's a good thing they extended his run a bit. his actual death was waaaay cooler.

yeah, but wouldn't you and your family have relocated to macross city by then? (and for certain, you'd make sure that your new house is positioned behind the Macross.)

I love FB 2012. I can't say for sure if the majority of macross fans really dislike it.

from the intro of gubaba's essay (or dare i say, thesis? ), it's not so much about Ohnogi being a credited writer of MF, but more of the theory that most of the MF dialogue was supposedly lifted from, or inspired by, alleged previous works of Ohnogi.

yeah, come to think of it, that'll be quite harsh. and since the episode was "friendly fire", michael might have been killed off that way, by alto or by klan? harsh.

would you belive me if i told you that i actually caught the M7 reference, nevertheless i still missed the SDFM nod? shame on me. SHAME.

I can't believe this is the first time it actually registered that MFEp10 was a reference of SDFM MicroCosmos. I was too caught up in it being a Macross Zero tribute, that the more subtle reference totally escaped me. color me blind and brand me stupid.

As a person who relishes every bit of trivia on a specific matter of interest, I certainly welcome (and appreciate) any effort to summarize interviews and findings about the intricacies of Macross Frontier. For me, the ultimate resolution of the mystery (i.e. whether or not ohnogi had anything to do with Frontier) is, while certainly interesting, a secondary priority to the wealth of information that could be shared in the process. For this, it's the journey that drives me, more than the destination. So with that I say thankee-sai and carry on.

i wonder if they'll keep sam worthington in the sequel as.. i dunno, a pure terminator. he still got to keep his brain and cpu, right? a tin man in search of his heart. how's that for a unique concept?

haha. oh yeah, i guess he knew then. which makes me wonder more why the resistance would so easily dismantle a potentially powerful (and seemingly loyal) ally. couldn't someone else have offered his heart for connor for the sake of the resistance? when push comes to shove, his loyal followers ain't all that. haha.

And if I knew nothing else, that would be enough.

Cool. i've been waiting for this. keep em coming.

I don't think Markus is a strong as the other terminator models. either that, or he doesn't know how strong he is yet.

waitaminute, can't an ordinary human step on a skull (assuming it's a relatively old skull) and crush it all the same? Honest question here, i really don't know the answer. i'm trying to remember from TS who got punched by a terminator and lived through it. connor was only thrown, if i remember correctly.

haha. wicked. ok i wouldn't go that far. that would have killed the franchise, and i am glad it didn't happen. and that's an example of having a twist just for the sake of having one. but markus becoming the new john connor (and for real, without him turning trigger-happy terminator all of a sudden) would still have been the better move, than either that bleak ending, or the final movie ending. imo.

well, the closest thing to that for now would be the live haruhi concert, where the seiyuus acted out their roles live on stage.

i wouldn't really mind connor surviving if the whole movie was already going that way... but while watching it, i could see the focus of the movie was as much on markus as it was on connor. i mean, the movie started with markus. all the way from the start it felt like markus's movie, and when john connor got impaled a metal spike, everything seemed to make sense (of course, yes, there's this underlying rage that's screaming, "you can't kill john connor!!), and if he did die, it would make sense. Markus's dark past, his yearning for a second chance, and his reluctant heroism (from indifference to risking his life to save kyle reese and the kid). Markus's character was ever moving, ever developing into someone that could very well lead humanity to victory. on the other hand, john connor was the static character, holding on to what little he knows about the future, and realizing it just wasn't enough. the future has changed, so what he learned from his mother isn't necessarily right anymore. he felt like a character already despairing that he won't be able to fulfill his detiny anymore, because the game has changed, and he hasn't. and the way he is now, he can't lead them to victory. But markus is stronger, and has more information about the current state of skynet. let's face it, the resistance could have used him much more than connor. this is where the movie bothered me. you could feel that it was setting markus up to replace john connor at the end. and it would feel right, somehow. you would be in disbelief, you would rage at how the hell they could have killed John Connor, but deep down the movie would have made sense. i'm reminded of one of my favorite quotes from Sandman: "Charitably...I think...sometimes, perhaps, one must change or die. And, in the end, there were, perhaps, limits to how much he could let himself change." To give the resistance a chance to win this "new" war against the machines, connor should either change or die. and if connor died, and markus took his place, connor would have, in effect, done both. I'm not espousing the "john connor should have died" side of things just for the sake of a major twist at the end, or because it would be awesome (and yes, it would be). i'm for it, because the rest of the movie told me that that's what should have happened. the ending seems disjointed from the rest of the movie, in my opinion.

the more you say it, the more i'm disappointed. ok, so they have plans for a new trilogy starting from TS, right? but what will they come up with for the next ones? yet another class of terminator? sigh. on the other hand, if they had killed connor, the franchise could go on beautifully even without a new terminator... because the hero is one. the whole idea of it is fascinating. It's like in Code Geass, where . and if, as you say, they would have pulled off Connor's skin to put it over markus, then Christian Bale could still be in the movie.... as a terminator/john connor. how awesome would that have been? hmmm.... oh well, here's to hoping that halfway through the TS sequel, John Connor gets severely injured and realizes that he's a terminator inside. Kate Connor: "well... you see... john connor actually died on the operating table. you're markus, but you wanted to be reprogrammed to be connor, so there.... by the way, i'd like some terminator lovin' now, if you know what i mean."

huh? didn't you know? Sarah Connor actually placed his name in John Connor's birth certificate as the father. and she even stated that Kyle Reese was born in 2010. Well, she has this obsessive compulsive thing for being honest, what can ya do?

Who are you and what have you done with Duke Togo??