dreamweaver13

If you noticed, I try only to reply to posts that attempt to close the side-topic once and for all, trying to give it an air of finality. my subtle way of saying, "ok see there not much to that issue.give it a rest." And I avoid replying to milspex's posts coz he seems a bit defensive about his position.... oops. uh-oh... now i've done it...

Pete, my man, i have not seen the generational cycle of life summarized better than you just did. i salute you.

By definition, Junta Momonari (mega playboy version) from DNA2. He does father 100 children, doesn't he? [sorry for the bump, i noticed this thread just now]

The classics are dear to my heart as well, but I wonder how much of the feedback in this thread is purely out of nostalgia, and how much of it is a fair assesment of the new series? sure the old series are great, but the new series seems superior in terms of writing, pacing, action and plot development. i can only watch spidey swinging from building to building with the exact same motion for so long. For instance, there are action moments in spectacular spiderman where i could almost see my own jaw dropping to the floor. the action sequence in the last episode of S1 (with the thugs and the helicopter) is one particular example.

same thing happened when it was shown in a film festival in my country. marketing was so lousy, you could count the people in the theater. numerous eva fans didn't even know about it until it was too late. while i don't mind watching in an almost empty theater, what really pisses me off is that it would probably damage the chances of the rest of the eva movies being screened here. damn.

haha. you have to think about it. if even the old greeks already thought that the younger generation were inferior, you'd think we'd all be primates by now.

hey the new one's pretty catchy too.

At first, i wasn't too thrilled about the animation style of Spectacular Spiderman, so i didn't give it a chance at first. But after catching a few episodes, man, i couldn't get enough!! I think this is the closest thing to comic-book Stan-Lee/Romita spiderman in the animated world. While there are some changes, it seems like it's the most loyal intepretation of spidey there is! spider-man's battle quips are hilarious, and the references are endless. when peter refused to be set up by Aunt May with MJ because she has "a wonderful personality", and when he finally opened the door to meet her for the first time... BAM, i almost wept! I love this series. i've only seen season 1, and i can't wait for the next.

On a related matter, anyone care to give their opinion why Misa smiles against the sunrise in the ending of "Broken Heart"? I could give so many meanings to it, but i still can't pinpoint the one that feels exacty right. Was she happy that hikaru still decided to obey orders despite minmay being there? was she just happy about the success of the mission. if that's all it was, the smile just doesn't feel right to me. Oh and one more thing. I only realized this during my last viewing of the aftermath eps. the strategy used for the rescue operation (i.e. using zentraedi as decoys to get kamjin out of the concert hall) was actually Hikaru's idea, and was in direct disobedience of the strategy devised by the military commanders and sought to be implemented by misa. Bravo to misa for allowing Hikaru enough latitude to do the rescue his way. she could have been court martialed for that if something went wrong. also, that was the source of another great line from misa: "i wonder if you'll be this worked up if i was the hostage?". And true to form, hikaru could only say, "baka". haha. classic! on the other hand, hikaru once again showed brilliant command foresight, out-of-the-box thinking, and knowledge of the enemy. "this is kamjin we're talking about. of course he'll fall for it."

You're treating the recap episode as an intermission, eh? makes perfect sense. but personally, i even saw more parts. Space episodes (1-12), Earth episodes (14-20), SW1 (21-27) and finally the aftermath. and yes, ROMANESQUE RULZ!!

In my opinion, the only ones that were really terribly awfully animated was Satan's Dolls and Broken Heart, but considering how really terribly awfully animated those episodes were, it certainly felt like two episodes too many.

Niiiice. Thanks for these pics!

MIN-MAAAAAAAYYY!!!

Interesting. I guess we can't really compare cathy to either misa or minmay, because we don't really know how she behaved during her teen years. How did she behave when she was a miss macross candidate? when she was dating ozma? When she got pissed off with ozma with caring more about his plane than he did about her? Now here's a thought: what if she actually made that same demand of ozma that minmay did of hikaru: quit the military and we'll get married? for all we know, cathy acted like minmay at 16, like misa at 19, and now a mature and strong woman at 23.

haha, i was going to point out that you were at least 26 years old, reading from your post, but i didn't want to actually start a discussion on someone's age. thanks for volunteering the info. I think whether the show was written for kids or for adults is irrelevant. what matters is that the story itself was good enough for everyone of any age. and you're right, even as a kid, i knew i was not just watching any regular saturday "cartoon". at that age, who gives a crap about who ends up with whom; give me the tranforming robot action. but, surprise of surprises, it was the story that reached out to me even as a little kid. on a related note, don't you guys get tired of the marketing that comes out for new shows or movies these days. "written for kids, but even adults will like it!". sheesh. yeah, we get it already.

We have to remember that Hikaru never confessed his feelings for Minmay either, not until episode 27. Sure, they had a moment while trapped under SDFM, but in Manmay's mind, how much of that is desperation? How much of that is a spur of the moment? And why would minmay assume that Hikaru had romantic intentions towards her? Look back at the whole series and you might realize that the things that Hikaru does (meet her on his official day-off, attend her birthday, give her a special birthday gift) are also things that a very good friend would do for a girl. perhaps at minmay's relatively young age, she just didn't realize the romantic implications of it until it was forced upon her by Hikaru's confession in ep27. But by then, she already had feelings for Kaifun. as for the her coyness in miss macross, declaring that she has a lot of friends. do you really expect any self-respecting girl to say, "yeah i have this boyfriend", when that "guy" hasn't even confessed to her yet? What if she misinterpreted his attitude towards her, wouldn't that be downright embarassing for the girl afterwards? In my mind, the girl who assumes that the guy already likes her, and declares it to the whole world, even before an actual confession, or even before a conversation between them, may have some kind of ego problem. Like i said in the OP, i never got the impression from SDFM that minmay was playing or manipulating hikaru's feelings. at worst, she was a flirt. a bit too friendly, maybe. but most of it may just be because of her young age. she doesn't tend to overthink what her actions means in a romantic sense. that overthinking comes much later.

I can't remember this particular quote, pete. I do remember claudia saying something about insubordinate attitude to misa, but i don't recall misa saying that she kinda liked it. i might be wrong. do you remember which episode this was? thanks.

Yeah, that's also what i was thinking. Macross 11 could be just one unlucky fleet, not having found a planet yet after years of space travel. i wonder how much kaifun has to do with this bad luck...

haha. i'm gonna give mickyg the benefit of the doubt on this one. he did say that it was "great", not that it was "surprising" or "unbelievable". I'm suddenly getting the defensive old-man vibe from you guys.

Question: When a Macross colonization fleet finds a habitable planet, does the fleet (particularly the city and the battleship) stay on the planet permanently to colonize it? Or does the fleet simply leave some citizens and colonizers and go on their way to find other planets? I always thought it was the former, but Macross 11 got me thinking (since it's still in space even after so many years).

hehe. yup i read em all too. even up to "end of the circle". hence, it was even more difficult to wash away. sometimes i would be watching SDFM and i would remember some tidbit from the mckinney novels. Have fun with your SDFM viewing.

Yeah, it just pisses me off that we have to be wary about these things nowadays.

Man, that's some lovely artwork. specially the second one.

I agree. The irony of it is that he was the most human of them all. While everyone else was swept away by the currents of culture, peace, love and music, Kamjin represented what humans have been like all throughout their existence before SW1 - prone to fighting and violence, but capable of deep passion and emotion (with laplamiz).

Quite interesting that you said that, because Misa said relatively the same thing in "Satan's Dolls". After finding out that the zentraedi were created by the protoculture specifically for warfare, Misa told Hikaru (in another one of those unguarded moments between them) that they were just like the zentraedi -- "we're always fighting".