Yes, I've seen Lt. Holmes there bitch, bitch, and bitch about the Macross mecha. Funny, a majority of Macross fans here don't have a problem with the mecha because it's all really logical. And why shouldn't the VF-0 have all sorts of support equipment? It's not like any of it was mass-produced. And the VF-0D is pretty different from the VF-0A/B/S because the D version was designed to pioneer the possibility of a delta-wing designed VF. Cory is the local Macross-mecha hater here, that's funny considering the place he's in. Haters.