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That's cool. If the VF-25 is a 2059 update of the VF-1 (I know that there is a complex lineage for the development of that fighter, and it's transformation is like part VF-1 and part YF-19, and so forth, but I mean that the VF-25 is clearly meant to suggest to an audience the VF-1, and retain a classic feel while remaining new, and plausible in 3D space) then I think this bad boy is a great update to the VF-4. I would consider this a mashup, like Blue Eyes meets Bed Stuy, or the Gray Album. Where the two source materials are clear, but compliment each other nicely, rather than considering this a brand new design. That's my take. Plus, your art is slick.

Rod -- For some reason PMs aren't working for me. Just wanted to say: got it. Thanks!

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Oh, I hadn't seen the texture yet. Cool.

Wha?! I'm deleting my posts! Seriously, though. On the one hand, I actually agree with the both of you. When you put your art out there, not everybody is going to be nice to you about it. Sure, there are ways to critique somebody's work that encourage them, and that's what a good teacher or mentor can do -- challenge you without crushing your ambition. A good student has to be able to take these critiques, and understand they're not personal attacks. A professional has to be able to take all sorts of name calling and sh*t-slinging. And, for crying out loud, posting this on the internet has got to be the easiest way to open yourself up to name-calling. Anybody ever read youtube comments? If Hawk runs for cover when somebody says, "eh, I didn't like it," then that's going to be a short-lived art career. If it's just a hobby, then Hawk might want to think about who the work is shared with. Whether or not I feel like this is a community where we should all try to be nice and foster each other's creativity, it's still an open, public community where people are free to disagree with me on that, and say whatever the frak they want. That said, I also realize that MW is a kind of community, and we don't have to enable or coddle people who can't take criticism, but at the same time, perhaps we should think about how we approach that criticism. Sometimes people just want to show their work, and they're not looking for somebody to tell them everything they did wrong. Or sometimes people want a critique, and we can come across as know-it-alls, or holier-than-thous, or whatever. I mean, at the end of the day, we're talking about transforming planes and galactic fairies and things, so it's all make-believe, and if somebody gets something wrong, it's really our opinion if it's wrong. I mean, science might have something to say, but it's fantasy, and people can choose to throw science out the door if they want. So, I dunno, I guess what I'm saying is that this is a community, and we can be nicer -- I'm not asking us to put on kid gloves, but I don't want to ask everybody to grow leather skin, either, if you know what I'm saying. I work as, amongst other things, a youth media mentor, and I constantly have to find creative and effective ways of motivating the youth to improve upon their work, without crushing their spirits, to critique it without criticizing it. Sometimes, I have a kid who takes the world so personally that nothing I say or do won't be seen as an attack. That, at the end of the day is THEIR problem, and I'm not responsible for it, but as a part of the community, I do try to recognize that and take it into account. I take that same mentality to the community here, which is that, if I can't figure out how to say it in a positive way (even if I think the work could use improvement), I tend to just shut up about it. Because, honestly, I don't need to offer my opinion on everything. And for the record, I think Hawk over-reacted. But I also think that Kris was a bit harsh, but I know that that's Kris's steez and there's no harm intended. So, let's all "let bygones be bygones and let the good times roll." Word. Also, the Blitzwurfel is so stealthy... it takes a cue from Solid Snake's ultimate stealth design -- the cardboard box. 90 degree angles or not, suckas!!!!!! LOLZ !!!!!eleven!!!!!!! WHAT>!? You know what I'm saying?

You make Google Sketchup look good.

Kris -- just poking fun, not dissing hard. It took me a surprising amount of time to throw together that cube of mine. I'd be a loser if went through all that work just to pick another fight with you. We're good. I looked up how to say cube in German! For you, man, I did it for you! (And actually, I kinda laughed at the german name thing -- I have a friend and we always joke about how for a while every anime german was named Faust) But I think homeboy with the WraithVerge is never coming back. Oh well. I think he(?) put together a cool model. I woulda named it maybe just the Wraith.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you my attempt at a custom valk. I listened very carefully to the critiques of the WraithVerge and, well, I'll let the design speak for itself... (note: not too curvy -- stealth! low-viz matte paint scheme! German name! Who could ask for more?)

Wait, we get to judge these things? On a scale of F to A I give it a smiley face, a check+, only ONE gold star, and some dap, oh, and it qualifies for the 2010 winter olympics -- indigenous rights not withstanding.

To me, to make it feel more like Macross, it would be awesome to see all three modes. If the bugs interfere with gameplay fairly frequently, I would probably lose the GERWALK. You've already done great things by taking care of transformation -- something that has haunted modders for ages it seems -- is it possible that you might be able to iron out the bugs, or is it an engine limitation you're up against? My vote was for bananas, because I eat those fairly regularly, and as of yet haven't played HW2, but I support you taking the time you need to make the best dang thing possible.

What is the gameplay advantage of the GERWALK configuration? Also, I've never played HW2, so I don't really know what I'm talking about. If anything gets me to play it, it will be this mod, I tells ya.

You make good points.

Lestat, I was trying to get in touch with you about using some of your work within Macross Aria...

At this point we're mainly looking for capital ships, although there are a couple of smaller units we could use as well. http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...st&p=690694 UNS Lockhee SF-3A Lancer II Space Fighter Northrom QF-3000E Ghost Fighter-Bomber Zentraedi Picket Patrol Ship Quiltra Queleual Class Landing Ship Tank Queadol-Magdomilla Class Fleet Command Battleship Nupetiet-Vergnitzs-Class Fleet Command Battleship

"Probably?"

I'd like to see the model.

You work FAST!!

Funny. Yeah, Vinnie is our VF-4 expert. Perhaps Vinnie is MacrossWorld's VF-4 expert. You'll totally see the new improved version in the film. (my keyboard's writing checks your modeling has to cash, Vinnie)

And there was a time when I decided to stick with 3ds max because it was "standard" in game design. Standards. Feh. Well, this isn't over yet...

That, my friend, is the right idea. If I had any idea how to design campaigns for HW2, I would totally design an Aria campaign to contribute to this project. Also, if I were a genius, I would figure out how to fuse FS2 with HW2 so that I could get my space combat simulator fix along with the fleet strategy fix. Hey, is there a way to include custom cutscenes in HW2?

Yeah, great models! ... And not to bogart your collaborators Shadow, but, yo, Zeiram, if you're interested in lending a hand (or a model) to Macross Aria, we could always use hi-poly models of that caliber. Wanna know more? http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=28292 And Shadow, I'm not sure if you would have any use for what we're developing, but, we're definitely open to providing you with stuff if we can.

I swear, the VF-2SS is darn cool. Your model: really really darn cool.

Wow, ask and I shall receive.

For future reference, if somebody decides to bail on the internet for a while to take care of their children, I won't feel let down. In fact, I'll give 'em props. Congratulations.

Whoa, an actual physical model! I wish we had top, left, bottom, right, front, and back shots of that thing, since the line arts are all sorta different.